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     Ferris_von_bueller |
The Duke U. study http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-305 2926/Our-climate-models-WRONG-Global-warming-slowe d-recent-changes-natural-variability-says-study.ht ml | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-305 2926/Our-climate-models-WRONG-Global-warming-slowe d-recent-changes-natural-variability-says-study.ht ml Simply by using actual data instead of models they have a picture of the climate that shows, surprise, surprise, that it's variable, and periodic. I remind you that warm periods are good, and cold periods are bad. Rome? warm. Dark ages? cold. | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/11561629/Top-sc ientists-start-to-examine-fiddled-global-warming-f igures.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3055646/Di d-exaggerated-records-make-global-warming-look-wor se-Scientists-investigate-adjusted-temperatures-sk ewed-data.html When you change your theory to fit the data, that is science. When you change the data to fit your theory, that's fraud. | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.apnewsarchive.com/2015/Human-caused-glo bal-warming-is-responsible-for-3-out-of-4-super-ho t-days-new-study-calculates/id-eb57f82186644726b30 862ef2baf4d6e 78% of the people can be fooled by made up statistics 83% of the time. | ||
| Blake |
Come on Patrick. Throw in the towel already and send them your life savings to save us all. At least maybe the Goricle could afford his coveted happy ending. | ||
| Aesquire |
Already spent it on energy taxes. | ||
| Reindog |
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| Blake |
I'm giddy that diesel is down to $2.39/gal here, but it'snot good for the shale oil folks. We need $70 to $80/brl I think to keep domestic shale oil production profitable. | ||
| Hootowl |
Yup. But that huge potential supply will keep prices depressed for quite some time, especially with Saudi Arabia pumping like mad. They claim it's so they can keep market share, but I suspect that they're doing it do drive the shale producers under. | ||
| Aesquire |
The same thing happened in the Carter administration after we spent billions recreating the WW2 German coal to oil process. It needed fifty plus bucks a barrel to be profitable, and after squeezing us with OPEC during the '73 war on Israel, the Saudis opened the taps to keep us energy dependent. | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.pjtv.com/series/trifecta-105/doomsday-w e-may-be-kinda-sorta-in-environmental-danger-10909 / http://www.pjtv.com/series/trifecta-105/doomsday-w e-may-be-kinda-sorta-in-environmental-danger-10909 / Sarcasm about the fact that we all died years ago.... if the predictions of the doomsday folk came true. | ||
| Aesquire |
http://videos.komando.com/watch/7847/kims-picks-yo u-think-you-can-ride-this-bike-but-you-really-cant ?utm_medium=nl&utm_source=tvkim&utm_content=2015-0 4-30-article-screen-shot-f Really good. Unlearning & relearning to ride a bike. | ||
| Hootowl |
Interesting. Very interesting. | ||
| Ducbsa |
Now, that's countersteering! | ||
| Aesquire |
http://xkcd.com/1519/ | ||
| Aesquire |
Letter at Jerry Pournelle's website. Quote. Hello Jerry, You followed Mike’s note yesterday on the impact of ‘big data’ on science with this: “And to climate scientist “peers” the models are more important than the evidence.” I sent this to Dr. Curry yesterday and thought that it may be relevant: “I was reading the comments on the course on ‘Making Sense of Climate Denial’ and followed matthewrmarler’s link (April 28, 2015 @ 2:31 PM) to RealClimate: http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2015 /04/an-online-university-course-on-the-science-of- climate-science-denial/ . Reading the article and associated comments on RealClimate accomplished a few things: a. Convinced me that CAGW truly poses an existential threat, in that the people with the mind set demonstrated by the commenters on RealClimate are in charge of setting our energy and ‘climate change’ policies, as well as the policies in virtually every other aspect of the societies which make up what is loosely known as ‘Western Civilization’. b. Showed that there is a subset of ‘climate denialists’ with at least one member (me) who came by their ‘denialism’ via a mechanism not addressed by the usual Koch funding/big oil/creationism/AM Radio propaganda/etc theories postulated by the authors and commenters on ‘RealClimate’. That would be the one by which a person who is not an official ‘scientist’, but who has worked in technical fields all their life, examines a whole bunch of proclamations from the ‘experts’, notices that the ones concerning subjects about which he DOES have some technical knowledge appear to be patent BS, and concludes that the remaining proclamations are ALSO more than likely to be patent BS. Examples: ‘Annual Temperature of the Earth (TOE) warmest since records began in 1880! Smashes previous record (by a few hundredths of a degree)! This implies that we can place the years since 1880 in rank order of their TOE. This in turn implies that since 1880 we have had an instrumentation system place that can determine the TOE with a precision and accuracy that makes anomalies of a few hundredths of a degree statistically meaningful. I don’t believe either. I am willing to bet that two teams of climate experts cannot INDEPENDENTLY deploy data collection systems to my county in Northern VA using their choice of instrumentation, collect data for a year, determine the ‘annual temperature of my county’, and have the two readings agree within a few hundredths of a degree. I definitely do not believe that the planetary temperature archives allow the TOE in the 19th century to be determined with anything like hundredths of a degree precision. When someone claims that they CAN, and that public policy should be founded on their claim, my BS Detector detonates. ‘Ocean heat content has risen by 27e22 joules since 1957!’: http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2013 /09/what-ocean-heating-reveals-about-global-warmin g/ ) That is an average increase of around 5e21 joules/year, which certainly sounds like a lot. And it is, until you realize that that enormous amount of heat is enough to raise the temperature of the top 2000m of oceans by a few millidegrees. Over 50+ years. Since heat content of the oceans is determined by the specific heat of seawater (highly variable with temperature and salinity) and its temperature, the graph provided implies that we have been able to measure the temperature of the top 2000 meters of the entire ocean with milli-degree precision since 1957. The ‘experts’ may convince themselves that their data supports the graph; a guy like me, who has spent some time attempting to collect temperature data with ONE degree precision from a PID controlled, heavily insulated laboratory heat chamber—not so much. Not only do the experts claim that their planet wide ocean temperature measurements have millidegree precision over 50+ year timeframes, they further claim that the plotted millidegree anomalies can be attributed to ACO2 and that the anomalies are proof of looming catastrophe absent government mitigation policies. According to Cook, 97% of non-insane, scientifically literate people believe all the above. Mark me as an insane Luddite. EVERY disaster, in any category, is attributed, at least in part, to ACO2. The most recent of course the disastrous earthquake in Nepal: http://dailycaller.com/2015/04/28/scientists-say-g lobal-warming-will-cause-deadly-earthquakes/ . All very plausible and certainly preventable with sufficient government control over ACO2. I’d believe it if I weren’t a mentally challenged ‘denier’. I could go on ad infinitum but you get the idea. When someone presents me with unrefuted and, more importantly, unrefutable ‘facts’ that clog up my BS detector, it seems reasonable to me to question other similar proclamations from the same sources about subjects about which I have no personal experience, especially when every single one of their ‘scientific’ products, the ones that I view with a jaundiced eye and the ones that I know little about, are cited as justification for massive increases in taxes and government power, with concomitant decreases in personal autonomy. Even MORE especially when the demands for government mitigation present NO evidence that the demanded policies will have measurable efficacy in controlling the climate in any way OR include any hint that any or all of the policies may have any NEGATIVE impacts. I am an old (government) retiree whose only interaction with oil companies is at the gas pump. Which, by the way, they are still supplying at 25-30% of the price of water at the same gas station. Consider the gyrations Exxon/Mobil has to perform to get the gas into my tank from three miles below the surface half a world away compared to Coke running the water from the public water system through a filter, putting it into a plastic bottle labeled ‘Dasani’, and charging three or four times the ‘ripoff price’ of gasoline. Then consider that the folks setting the public policies in every important arena think that of the two, the oil companies are the ones ‘ripping them off. And shudder. By the way, thanks for your efforts to introduce some sanity to the subject. Bob Ludwick” Unquote. | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.jerrypournelle.com/chaosmanor/warp-driv esdata-vs-big-science-piracy/ | ||
| Hootowl |
This might be a game changer. | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.latimes.com/science/la-sci-gene-editing -embryo-20150503-story.html#page=1 ""The positive side is, it allows regular biologists to change the DNA in any organism. The negative side is, it allows regular biologists to change the DNA in any organism," said Harvard Medical School geneticist George Church. "You can twist any technology into something bad." | ||
| Aesquire |
"Just the Blue Square" "One pixel" The blue square is the size of Texas. The pixel is the size of Massachusetts. ( with lead acid batteries... The not yet available Aluminum batteries will cover Vermont ) I'm going to get rich. On you. Any questions? Seems like a great product. The sales pitch skips a lot of vital detail.... and it's bleeding edge pricing... I also love how the audience all quits watching the presentation and aims their phones at a screen, on a stage, to get bad pictures of something that's going to be professionally released 12 nanoseconds later across the planet.... and will miss the rest of the presentation because the wi-fi, 3g and 4g signals are overloaded by everyone in the room trying to upload to Facebook at the same time. | ||
| Aesquire |
Let me be clear here. The old lead acid battery just needs a certain voltage pumped into it to charge it, and lasts for a bunch of cycles, and is technology from the 18th century.... updated a bit in gel cells, and recombinant batteries, like Absorbed Glass Mat. If you over voltage it, it releases Hydrogen gas, dries out, and dies. Might damage your car or catch it on fire. To prevent this we use fuses, and voltage regulators.... 19th century stuff. Edison stuff. Not even Nicola Tesla level. ( although he might have invented it and Edison took the credit ) The Lithium ion/Lithium Sulfate/Lithium........ there are several different chemical combinations is production today. They vary in storage density and how stable they are, but we can lump them all together for this discussion.... batteries need a smart charger and ideally sensors to detect voltage and temperature in EACH CELL, and the ability to vary voltage input to EACH CELL to charge quickly, last longer, and not catch fire. If the Tesla thingee has a built in computer to monitor and charge it's cells in an intelligent manner, it's a GREAT PRODUCT. Far beyond other commercial offerings, and on a par with the latest hand made batteries used by NASA. However he does gloss over the actual solar panel area needed with the "Blue Square" bull crap. Now if the solar panels are on Mercury....... | ||
| Aesquire |
http://dailycaller.com/2015/05/04/25-years-of-pred icting-the-global-warming-tipping-point/ on a holiday started as a beer ad we need some humor | ||
| Blake |
I like the self-contained off grid approach, better by far. The downtown major metro areas might need their own power stations, but homes, at least in the sunny South ought to be able to self sustain. It's going to happen at some point. Let's hope it happens without govt subsidies (our tax dollars funding it). And let's please maintain the fossil fuel infrastructure so that when the impending ice age hits, we can pump all the CO2 that we can back into the atmosphere. $3,500 for a 10 KW*Hr self-contained battery pack is pretty good. The avg new 2000 Sq Ft energy efficient home might make do with that, not sure. So, are the greenies going to be promoting the de-treeing of our suburbs in order to implement the solar power plan? I'd need to cut down eight or nine trees to achieve full roof full solar exposure. Mr. Musk seems to have forgotten about nuclear power. He seems like a really likable man. Erik without the passion for racing. | ||
| Ducbsa |
Warming Hoaxer data fakery alert!! Of course, this will be on the front page of the NY Times. \sarc http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2015/05/noaa -caught-rewriting-us-temperature-history-again.php | ||
| Hootowl |
"$3,500 for a 10 KW*Hr self-contained battery pack is pretty good" Yes, but unfortunately, you still need a dc-ac static inverter. Realistically, in the south, you need 10KW to run an air conditioned three bedroom two bath home. That's assuming a natural gas water heater and heat. Maybe a bit less if you have a gas oven and stove. A 10kw inverter isn't cheap. At least as much as the battery. Still doable. (Message edited by hootowl on May 06, 2015) | ||
| Reepicheep |
Personally, the "solar powered AC" concept is just so cool to me, I'd pay a premium for it. And I wonder if you limited it to just that case, if you could create a thermal battery of some kind instead of an electrical one. It would have to be big, but it could be as cheap as some plumbing and tap water. | ||
| Hootowl |
What are you going to do with stored hot water? Take a bath? Might help store heat for heating in the winter, but it won't do anything for cooling in the summer, or for running your oven or refrigerator. There's no good way to recover the heat and put it to use. | ||
| Reepicheep |
I was thinking use the solar electric to run a compressor and supercool a big block of brine in a big cooler in the basement or somewhere, and use that as a "cold reservoir". | ||
| Hootowl |
Maybe. That doesn't help with your need for electricity, though it probably eliminates the biggest load. Wonder how big the pool would need to be to store enough "cold" to cool a house in a hot climate? Still need an inverter to operate solar panels though. The battery just replaces the panels at night. | ||
| Aesquire |
I want one of the battery modules instead of the backup generator I can use for the frequent power outages. Unless you give them to me I'm not spending money on solar panels. The not yet built garage will have passive solar heating. There are problems with storing cold. First, how do you use it? Put coils for a heat pump in the pool? If you pump cold water through radiators you get condensation. I have underfloor heat. Underfloor cooling would drip all over the basement. |
