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Brian
Posted on Friday, March 13, 2015 - 10:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If all goes as planned I will be upgrading both the hardware and software of this server on Sunday. Actually, I will be replacing it.

I will try to make it as fast as I can but in order to try to prevent data loss or corruption, the server will be offline while I do the upgrade.

Unfortunately, there is over 24GB of data that has to be backed up, moved and then restored. So it will take a while.

Thank you in advance for you patience and understanding.

Brian
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Glitch
Posted on Friday, March 13, 2015 - 10:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Brian!
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Bluzm2
Posted on Friday, March 13, 2015 - 10:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You da man Brian! Thanks!
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, March 13, 2015 - 10:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Appreciate!
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Friday, March 13, 2015 - 11:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Scary/exciting stuff! : )
Is the code to be upgraded as well?
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Two_seasons
Posted on Saturday, March 14, 2015 - 09:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

We Buellers appreciate that there is a community for us that has such good, solid support, from the admin to the posters.

Thank you for all you do for us out here.

Perhaps this is the time to ask about a gofundme page for BadWeb. It would make me feel better!
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Ourdee
Posted on Saturday, March 14, 2015 - 10:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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D_adams
Posted on Saturday, March 14, 2015 - 10:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Software upgrade to what? Discus forum software doesn't even exist any more does it?
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Teeps
Posted on Saturday, March 14, 2015 - 11:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for the warning,
And, your hard work keeping BadWeb up and running.

Cheers!
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Froggy
Posted on Saturday, March 14, 2015 - 11:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dean, backend stuff like the OS.

Maybe we can get lucky and Discuss is not compatible with the new one : )
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D_adams
Posted on Saturday, March 14, 2015 - 12:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Linux server, SMF front end. Done.
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Brian
Posted on Saturday, March 14, 2015 - 06:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

To be exact, these are the major upgrade points:

CPU from 2 core @ 2.4 Ghz > 8 core @ 3.4Ghz
Memory from 2BG > 4GB
Hard drives are new but the same size since capacity hasn't been an issue
Operating System from Ubuntu 12.04 LTS > Ubuntu 14.04 LTS
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Brian
Posted on Sunday, March 15, 2015 - 06:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

We seem to be running now...
Let me know here if you see any problems...
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Court
Posted on Sunday, March 15, 2015 - 08:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well done ....... You rock.
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Reindog
Posted on Sunday, March 15, 2015 - 08:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What a great birthday present. Thanks, Brian!
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Ourdee
Posted on Sunday, March 15, 2015 - 09:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

woohoo
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Greg_e
Posted on Sunday, March 15, 2015 - 09:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just curious... Why Ubuntu over CentOS or Debian?

And why 8 cores? I thought web servers needed ram more than CPU??? I don't have a lot of experience with web servers so take my questions as looking for info vs. being critical.
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D_adams
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2015 - 07:27 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

Why Ubuntu over CentOS or Debian?




Personal preference I'd guess. I run Mint Linux myself now after probably 8+ years of Gentoo Linux. Better support, easier maintenance and upgrades. New kernel supports rolling hot patches without rebooting, etc. Mint linux is based on Ubuntu, just packaged as a different distro.

My machines at home are 8 core AMD FX models (8370E, low power if you're curious) and have either 12 or 16 gb of ram. These are just boxes I'm running at home for basic services (ftp, web hosting, file server, etc.) and are not heavily utilized outside of my network. I did so for low latency and responsiveness.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2015 - 08:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ubuntu is nice. RedHat or CentOS make sense if you want to pay somebody for support, but if I was doing support myself I'd probably grab the Ubuntu server edition also.

RedHat was good about being stable, but probably *too* good about it. I got tired of fixing broken stuff every time I rebuilt a server just to get things to work right. It's one thing to not mess things up with arbitrary upgrades, but another if it never worked without tweaking and you have to just re-tweak every single time you install.
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Teeps
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2015 - 11:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The board appears to be working, always beyond my expectations...
Thanks to all involved, for your hard work.

Cheers!
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Pwnzor
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2015 - 01:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ummm... it's still the color of Grey Poupon...

Can we get some BBQ sauce over here???

Seriously though, thank you for keeping the motor runnin!
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Brian
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2015 - 08:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Greg,

In addition to the reasons others have stated, we used to use Redhat and then CentOS in the past. With CentOS, the software selection wasn't very good and we had to package our own perl modules that Discus needed. Also a CentOS upgrade killed the server once to the point that it was unbootable... We aren't very forgiving about screw ups of that magnitude. We moved to Ubuntu for the combination of long term software updates and package availability.

Regarding the hardware, you are correct, in general RAM is more important on a web server. However, Discus, and more specifically the search function, really use a lot of CPU. And, if we needed it, a RAM upgrade is simple...
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, March 16, 2015 - 08:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm curious if the search will work better now, previously it would bomb out if it was searching too many posts. I typically would have it only search posts in the last 300 days or so to avoid it timing out. I will have to try it later.
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Greg_e
Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2015 - 07:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks. My CentOS experience has only been with 6.5 and 7, but if you need an older package it is difficult to find an rpm and certainly not a binary.
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Imadog
Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2015 - 11:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That explains the "Can not display this page" last Sunday.

Thanks Brian and all those folks who keep this site running!
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Teeps
Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2015 - 11:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is it me or is the board blazingly fast now?
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Court
Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2015 - 05:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>Is it me or is the board blazingly fast now?

Anybody can make a board blazingly fast . . . but we have Super-Brian.

Look . . . . I can put two and two together.

I'm not sure what he did.

But since he did his thing . . . the snow has melted, the sun has come out, my bike started right off after a long winter and the market has gone up.

Coincidence?

I think not.
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Firstbuell
Posted on Tuesday, March 17, 2015 - 05:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

thx a ton, Brian

a "key man" behind the curtain!
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Fuzzz
Posted on Wednesday, March 18, 2015 - 12:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm having a couple of glitches... The sign in page is now computer lingo that I don't understand, and the backfire board has disappeared... Is it just me?
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Froggy
Posted on Wednesday, March 18, 2015 - 01:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Fuzzz, can you try to copy/paste the message you are seeing at the login page?

Also, try logging in from the "Login/out" link at the very top of the page

The Backfire Board is hidden to those not logged in, hence why you are not seeing it. Sometimes you need to log out and back in with the link at the top to make it visible.
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