| Author | Message | ||
     Kenm123t |
with super slugs she may have broken bones in her hand | ||
| Blake |
Super Slugs? These?: http://store.thirdgenerationshootingsupply.com/bro wse.cfm/4,5270.html | ||
| Aesquire |
I found Remington Buckhammers to kick a lot compared to regular rifled slugs. My complaint is the sadistic practice described above is bad in that it turns people who would be fans of shooting and fellow supporters of our civil rights into enemies by giving them a horrid impression of shooting. Sure.....humor can be based on the embarrassment of others. The banana peel slip is classic. It's not funny when they get injured. Actually killing someone with a "joke" is fortunately rare. That's not funny at all. Makes you wonder when you see the "first time shooting gun & gets recoil to face" video if the perpetrator pulls wings off flies and grew up torturing kittens. It's a pathological behavior. | ||
| Aesquire |
I will admit the vids of grown men ( usually rich Arabs ) not handling the recoil of a ".577 T-Rex" make me laugh......a little uneasily, but those are guys who were told it was a heavy-duty gun. The T-Rex or .577 Tyrannosaur is intended as a hunting guide gun to stop dangerous animals charging their clients. Like a .700 Nitro Express it's so powerful it's silly for casual shooting. I worked with a guy who used a .50-70 Sharps to hunt woodchuck. Hunting giant rats with a buffalo gun is fun. Trajectory like a rainbow and you can see the thumb sized slugs arcing towards the target. | ||
| Blake |
Interesting to note that while energy is proportional to mass x velocity squared (mV2), the recoil is related to momentum, which is just mass x velocity (mV). Thus the 437.5 gr (1 oz) slug launched at 1,700 FPS imparts about 40% more kick compared to a .30-06 pushing 180 gr at 2,800 FPS. I gotta try some of those. | ||
| Rick_a |
That's about the same as a magnum shotgun slug. That's always fun. Felt recoil is always something else. Most larger caliber, higher pressure rifle cartridges have a sharper recoil than the big slow ones. Then there's 50bmg with a good muzzle brake. They are quite tolerable and makes them fun instead of the punishment people expect. | ||
| Sifo |
Just found out that Crook County has a item on the ballot this election labeled "Countywide, Universal Background Checks". Sounds reasonable, right? Here's the actual text of what's being voted on...
In Illinois you already have to verify online that the buyers FOID card is valid, even for a simple person to person transfer. Essentially a form of background check. What they are really pushing for is the ban on "assault weapons" and "high capacity" mags. Nice deception.  Referenda: November 04, 2014 Gubernatorial General Election | ||
| Aesquire |
Remember. Assault weapon means anything at all. It has zero real meaning. It's a phrase coined deliberately to scare people. Period. | ||
| Sifo |
Remember. | ||
| Gregtonn |
...imparts about 40% more kick compared to a .30-06 pushing 180 gr at 2,800 FPS. Well sort of. "Kick" is also a function of the mass of the weapon. Newton's equation works both ways. People don't really get blasted backward when they are shot with non-explosive rounds. (With the exception of cannon balls, in which case large pieces of them may get blasted backward.) G | ||
| Aesquire |
For real fun with physics look up "trebuchete". Local college class ( with a buddy doing the forge work ) built a full scale trebuchete, as an engineering project. With permission no less assembled it in the town park. Then completely freaked the town gov. by demonstrating it. Watermelon sized rocks tossed over 300 yards. The town ordered it locked up to keep anyone from using it and they ended up selling it to a ren fair. Took 2 flatbed semi's to haul away. The crane operator asked "how the he&$ did you guys put this up?" Then hit full freak when told "A frame, ropes and pulleys, just like the original. ". The original WMD. Suitable for demolishing solid stone walls and turning a human into a smear. | ||
| Chauly |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trebuchet I still remember Chris' trebuchet in Northern Exposure... real thing, throwing a real upright piano a couple of hundred yards (? Feet?), filmed in slo-mo when it came down... What a sound! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0O40Radaizk His was a Traction Trebuchet, as opposed to the more powerful Counterweight version. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trebuchet They built one in Kiev earlier this year to throw rocks at police... Rocket? | ||
| Aesquire |
The Northern Exposure Treb ( I misspelled it, darn phone ) was a counterweight model, but not the swinging counterweight used on King, Edward's War Wolf. The swinging version gets better range, and is the model the Alfred U. kids built. ( the Engineering dept. & the Medieval Club ) The fixed counterweight model works best on wheels.... as the full length version of this tells. Shorter clip. Long form, The Alfred model was about half the size of War Wolf, and used aprox. 100 lb. rocks. | ||
| Aesquire |
I hope I don't have to point out that if you want to build one, be smart and careful. The energy stored & released can be lethal, and they can explode. The adjustment to the pin holding one end of the sling is also critical. A few degrees off and it drops the rock on top of you. | ||
| Aesquire |
Torsion catapult, aka Onager. ( Wild ass, from the kick ) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onager_(siege_weapon) | ||
| Gregtonn |
Where do you suppose the pols will attempt to go with this? http://www.pddnet.com/news/2014/10/new-gun-tech-tr acks-weapon-fire?et_cid=4227001&et_rid=317498823&t ype=headline G | ||
| Aesquire |
Make it mandatory? Some big city police departments will want it. It has it's good points. Officer needs assistance made auto. Some cops will hate it. Like always on camera ideas it's got pluses and minuses. I don't want a smart gun. That's my job. It's a tool and the simpler the better. It must work when I need it or people die. Probably me. "Sorry Mrs. Jones, your husband had a dead battery and tried to stop the terrorists". | ||
| Sifo |
What they describe for police use, doesn't bother me, and may or may not be acceptable to the cops. Make me put it in my gun? I don't think so. The whole "smart gun" idea? No way in hell! It adds cost and will do little but work against me. The default for a dead battery had damn well better be that the gun will fire. Of course then people will simply never replace the battery that they took out on the first day of owning the gun. If the default is to make the gun not fire, I'm sure it will be simple enough to override. At some point all the fancy electronics is going to have to move a mechanical switch. Things like that can get all gunked up with things like JB Weld. Happens all the time! | ||
| Bob_thompson |
In my personal opinion, just another way for the liberal anti's to abuse our 2nd Amendment rights weather LEO or private citizen. If not one way like hurting ammo sales then another; shutting down lead producing factories, etc., etc. Whats next. They will try any means they can to not respect the Constitution. We have enough "good" laws on the books already and we need a big change. I already voted early and carefully with knowledge and common sense for that change. Bob | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/391386/whatev er-margaret-jonah-goldberg What you have to remember is the people that want to disarm you, you filthy peasant, are liars. So when they say they don't want to take your guns, they are lying. When they tell you Assault Weapons are the number one threat to life, they are lying. When they tell all the police in America that the greatest threat to peace is Veterans, people who believe in the law, and Christians, they are lying. The above IS the greatest threat, to them. | ||
| Iamike |
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| Chauly |
Patrick: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/11/14/buffalo-polic e-search-for-firearms-at-home-after-funerals/ | ||
| Ducbsa |
A Canadian friend had a legal Thompson and when he passed away, the police were there very promptly to confiscate it. | ||
| Rick_a |
In WNY a neighbor found some well preserved early 1900's military surplus guns hidden under some floorboards. His cop "friend" took the pistols "for his own good" as he didn't have the required pistol permit. He never saw them again. That still aggravates me. I would've kept them for him until he got the permit. If purchasing any NFA items, a trust is a good idea to insure the item is not confiscated and destroyed in the future, or for those in such backwards thinking states that require special permits or licenses to own firearms. | ||
| Aesquire |
I think this was posted here before.... This is the behavior of mobsters. https://www.techdirt.com/articles/20141124/1755342 9244/wtf-atf-atfs-fake-retail-stores-bad-behavior- why-it-only-came-out-because-they-failed-to-pay-re nt.shtml | ||
| Hootowl |
Ignorance on parade. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/12/15/families-newt own-shooting-victims-sue-gunmaker-seller/ | ||
| Sifo |
Ignorance or greed? I would guess greed of the lawyers. | ||
| Thumper74 |
"The negligence and wrongful death lawsuit, filed in Bridgeport Superior Court, asserts that the Bushmaster AR-15 rifle should not have been made publicly available because it was designed for military use and is unsuited for hunting or home defense." Tell that to my local coyotes, groundhogs and wild boards... This is a money grab. Pure and simple. Legislate them to death. I don't agree with the Bushmaster lawsuit after the DC sniper incident either, though I do agree with the lawsuit to the gun shop that failed to secure the rifle and notice it missing. I feel like stuff like this is simply sue for a large sum, hope to get an out of court settlement. If I use my car and kill someone, will they sue Chevrolet? | ||
| Aesquire |
Actually it's to sue gun makers out of business. Pushed by very rich people with heavily armed guards. | ||
| Hootowl |
"AR-15 rifle should not have been made publicly available because it was designed for military" It was not designed for military use. The M16 was designed for military use. The AR 15 simply uses the same round, and externally looks similar. It's no more lethal than any other semi automatic 223. And they're right that it doesn't make a very good hunting rifle...not nearly powerful enough, unless, as you say, you're shooting nuisance animals. Idiots. |
