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Badlionsfan
Posted on Monday, December 01, 2014 - 11:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here it is....

http://www.nationalspeedsportnews.com/motorcycle-r acing/other-motorcycle-racing/asra-to-sanction-day tona-200/
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Bads1
Posted on Monday, December 01, 2014 - 02:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

a spin off of it.
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Slaughter
Posted on Monday, December 01, 2014 - 02:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yeah - that's ASRA. It'd be good to keep the 200 totally separate from the rest of the series. There is a HUGE difference in endurance racing (as in the 200) and the rest of the MotoAmerica series.

Remember, back in the day, the Indy 500 was part of the Formula One series. Silly.
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Panhead_dan
Posted on Monday, December 01, 2014 - 04:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

All we need now is for the race to be on the TV.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Monday, December 01, 2014 - 04:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Geoff May posted to this article to Facebook this afternoon saying "Uhh oh! Guess I know what I'll be doing that weekend."

Let the speculation begin!
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Fast1075
Posted on Monday, December 01, 2014 - 04:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Geoff will be riding the new EBR 600 triple in the Daytona 200?
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Kcfirebolt
Posted on Monday, December 01, 2014 - 04:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That will be a 675 triple thank you very much.
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Bads1
Posted on Monday, December 01, 2014 - 06:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It wont it ASRA.
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Monday, December 01, 2014 - 07:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

a spin off of it.

Same track, same distance and still during bike week.

Sanctioning body has changed, but what does that mean to you and I? Nothing as far as I can tell.
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Bads1
Posted on Monday, December 01, 2014 - 08:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Factory teams will not be involved. Same track same distance and 600's which Daytona motorsports ruined the race by doing in the first place and nothing against ARSA but without factory teams its Club racing. Hey at
least they still have Supercross and Dirt Track. But ARSA is there own group.
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Crusty
Posted on Monday, December 01, 2014 - 08:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When the AMA dropped New Hampshire Motor Speedway, the track tried to hold races under a different Sanctioning body. I think that maybe 17 spectators showed up. Considering how many spectators have been at the 200 the past few years, I think that the Speedway would be lucky to get that many.
Oh, well...
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Xb9er
Posted on Monday, December 01, 2014 - 09:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

At least they are trying...
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Slaughter
Posted on Monday, December 01, 2014 - 11:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Don't know that Daytona had the draw of Indy and COTA - Texas in recent years. It's a snoozefest for 2 hours but at least you can go outside the gates and "participate" in the "bike" events in town.
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Panhead_dan
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2014 - 09:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When they choose not to televise an event, they are relegating it to be only a "local" event. Then they wonder why there is no fan base. Morons.
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2014 - 10:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When they choose not to televise an event, they are relegating it to be only a "local" event. Then they wonder why there is no fan base. Morons.

That's not exactly how the business works. I doubt AMA, DMG or whoever called the networks and said "Don't pay TV rights for our race and then air it on your channel. We don't want our product on tv."
The networks buy programming that they can get ratings and more importantly ad sales for.
The fact is motorcycle road racing just doesn't capture the american audience. At a time when there are more sports networks than ever fighting over programming, motorcycle road racing is getting left behind. We can debate how we got here, but the fact is motorcycle road racing (especially american) is dead to the average american.
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Firstbuell
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2014 - 11:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

mebbe it'll all cycle around again
and a new, M/C-friendly SPEED channel will arise......
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2014 - 04:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Speed channel is dead for the same reason, no one watched the endless reruns of Pinks and trick my truck all week.
All the major networks have a cable sports channel or 2 now, and there's MavTV that airs tons of racing too.
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2014 - 04:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How many cable channels are now vying for viewers in America and Europe? 100? 200?

And DMG couldn't find one eager to capture a couple hundred thousand viewers?
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Tuesday, December 02, 2014 - 07:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm sure they did try, but when advertisers saw the numbers I'm sure they passed. No ad revenue, no pay for the rights, no tv coverage. Was DMG asking too much money and unwilling to budge? Maybe, but we'll never know that.
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2014 - 04:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not buying it. Had someone like John Ulrich been running the series, it'd still be going strong and fully televised.
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2014 - 10:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Maybe, but my theory on what's wrong with interest motorcycle racing in the U.S. runs deeper.
I think the problem is the motorcycle market is too fragmented. Everyone (I'm speaking generally, there are exceptions) is into their own little niche. So in what's already a small percentage of people in the US that are into motorcycles, each segment is even smaller. Cruiser riders don't care about "them crotch rockets", sport bike riders don't care about dirt bikes and neither of them like cruisers. Sure you have some of that in auto racing, but the initial pie is much larger. I'm probably not explaining it as well as I'd like, but it was a long night. I'm exhausted and going to bed now.
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2014 - 03:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Regarding the Geoff May speculation....


http://www.roadracingworld.com/news/pegram-to-be-r iderteam-manager-for-team-hero-ebrs-2015-world-sup erbike-effort/#.VH9WafIlSYM.facebook
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Bads1
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2014 - 03:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yep more iffy news
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Badlionsfan
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2014 - 03:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Explain "iffy". Do you doubt the validity of the article?
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Bads1
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2014 - 03:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nope direction again.
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Fast1075
Posted on Wednesday, December 03, 2014 - 03:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The actual press release is on EBR Facebook.
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