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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, October 15, 2014 - 07:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That interpretation includes selling Arthur Treacher's franchises.

A bit different than ending unmarked troops to seize the tv station, police stations and government buildings....... like Putin did/is. While threatening nuclear war. ( using minions....like Obama's telling us lies about a video )
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Hootowl
Posted on Wednesday, October 15, 2014 - 09:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Fits in neatly with NATO expansion as described in the link posted."

It absolutely doesn't. At all. You've proven your ability to look up definitions, but if the definition contains words you do not understand, you'll have to look those up too. Look up subjugation, and occupation. There is no relation to what NATO is doing.
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Rocket_in_uk
Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2014 - 03:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

F**k off. NATO, or more correctly America, has bullyboyed its way across eastern Europe from north to south with its trinkets of tinsel and gold, buying up former Russian republics, iron block countries, and anywhere relevant their two faced ego will permit them to plant their military enclave. That is what is told in the link I posted.

Two things I expect. Denial of such and an American teaching me to speak English. Invasion doesn't mean what you want it to mean so you can support the same lie your government sells. I'm a European you forget. You're an isolated islander in the middle of two oceans. What the f**k do you really think you know that I don't? That your country is doing us in Europe a favour? Dream on. Go sell it where it's not questioned. At home to your gung ho homies, seeing as that's what your nation expects of you. We have a name for it here. Brainwashing ; )


Rocket in England
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2014 - 04:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

See what you get when your source material is from the religion of lies? A cult that uses class, racial, and religious hatred to manipulate the ignorant?

Vitriolic response to logic and facts.

Despite his parroting of Soviet doctrine, Rocket has a point. Nato wasn't supposed to absorb the ex-soviet slave states.... maybe Rocket can find the agreement and post a link to something that's not propaganda.

Why he supports the second most murderous liars in history is beyond me.

I mean the European feudal lord system was bad enough. Some people have made a good case that World War One was "the cousin's war". That the inbred aristocracy meant only to teach their relatives a lesson in "don't mess with my clan" like a hillbilly feud with better clothing. ..... that led to the millions dead on the fields of France & Russia.

Note that the people he sides with are the spiritual offspring of Lenin, who helped wreck the Russian logistic system and signed a pact with the Kaiser allowing him to send the troops from the Russian front to France.

Of course that's not how a properly indoctrinated Euro-serf would have been taught.
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2014 - 05:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"F**k off"

Well, isn't that sweet.

Also, Americans speak proper Queen's English, the English do not any longer, and haven't for about a century.

See the outstanding documentary series, "The History of English", made by the Brits, no less.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=advent ure+of+english
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2014 - 05:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you're into the origins of our language, that series is a fine resource.

But, I must admit, I posted it mainly to poke Rocket in the eye, but in the nicest way possible : )
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, October 16, 2014 - 06:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Invasion doesn't mean what you want it to mean"

Right back at you buddy. I use the generally accepted definition as described in pretty much any dictionary.
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Rocket_in_uk
Posted on Friday, October 17, 2014 - 05:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Despite his parroting of Soviet doctrine, Rocket has a point.

So if you made the same point it wouldn't be "parroting a Soviet doctrine"?

Would you brand me the same should I be an American making the same point?

It is you that is the bigot here. You'd have it American's are squeaky clean. The Jewish holier than thou. NATO the goody two shoes of war. And you sir think you know more than anyone else.


Rocket in England
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Rocket_in_uk
Posted on Friday, October 17, 2014 - 05:58 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Also, Americans speak proper Queen's English, the English do not any longer, and haven't for about a century.

Then you should know, 'f**k off' was used as an adjunct. Rather like starting a reply with an exclamation mark. It's how we English speak now. We dropped the p's and q's when America went all posh and that see, innit.


Rocket 'n Ungland
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Rocket_in_uk
Posted on Friday, October 17, 2014 - 06:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Right back at you buddy. I use the generally accepted definition as described in pretty much any dictionary.

Except it was I that used the word how I chose.

You being the English language master, you would know in what context said author intended. Thus it was not for you to infer an alternative meaning.


Rocket in England
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, October 17, 2014 - 06:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thus speaks Minitrue.
And the five minute hate against Goldstein.
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, October 17, 2014 - 07:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The difference between violating a treaty and sending armed troops to take over a territory should be obvious.

Russia because it's leaders live by the lie violates treaties all the time. Also invades other countries... half of Europe since 1938. Still doing both.

To be honest , U.S. regimes long before my birth violated a lot of treaties with our aboriginal natives....and invaded their lands. In fact in the Imperial State, N.Y., the last few Governors are pushing to violate long held treaties to get cigarette and gas tax money from the sovereign Indian lands. They keep insisting they were here first. That plus the greed for casino money seems to be holding off a resumption of armed conflict.

Should I choose to use the word tosser to refer to people who throw away their rational self interest to support jihadists?
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, October 17, 2014 - 07:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Chechnya and the Russian invasion and horribly bloody war there may have had a rational reason. The war seems to have been run badly and the results unsatisfactory for everyone.

Ironic that the decades of training other nations for asymmetric war to attack the West came home to roost with Soviet Trained troops on both sides in Chechnya.

And Ukraine.
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Rocket_in_uk
Posted on Friday, October 17, 2014 - 03:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Should I choose to use the word tosser to refer to people who throw away their rational self interest to support jihadists?

Well that depends on what you mean by jihadist does it not?

I mean you can't have an invasion without the fight, apparently, so I don't see how supporting the struggling muslim earns a person doing so the tosser title ; ) Do you?


Rocket in England
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, October 17, 2014 - 06:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Struggling to make a living?
Or in the struggle to conquer the world and impose the dark ages? Jihad means struggle. Good word choice.

Islam means submission.

I live in Dar el Harb, the house of war. So do you. This isn't a comment on Blair or Bush.

While the vast number of Christianity has no interest in burning my Wicca friends at the stake, I'm willing to oppose those who are by lethal force if need be. Not a daily thing and I'm not worried about it in the U.S. in the 21st century.

However institutionalized rape and beheading is not rare. Daily in some parts of the world. The beheading part is still rare in England. The sex slavery I understand is not. You guys did stop that practice?

Institutionalized rape was a factor in the last coup in Egypt, where the people and army stopped the Obama supported Caliph wannabe.

Also a few years back during Monica's War, used against the Muslims. Evil has many faces.
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, October 17, 2014 - 06:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Did you find the agreement not to surround Russia by Nato?
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Rocket_in_uk
Posted on Friday, October 17, 2014 - 09:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Struggling to make a living?

I couldn't say. Struggling is struggling right?


Or in the struggle to conquer the world and impose the dark ages?

No just struggle. Pretty much struggle. Yep that's it. Struggle.


Jihad means struggle.

Yep I did say.



Good word choice.

Not mine yours.

"Should I choose to use the word tosser to refer to people who throw away their rational self interest to support jihadists?

The definition of the word doesn't fit your use of it. Are you sure you didn't mean stinking dirty murdering muslim bastard or similar?


Rocket in England
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, October 17, 2014 - 10:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No just struggle. Pretty much struggle. Yep that's it. Struggle.

This explains why you can't see the difference between running a kebab shop and hiding behind children while you shoot rockets at other children.

The definition of the word doesn't fit your use of it.

Well, since in America few know that "tosser" refers to a masturbatory kind of fellow, and instead think it means throwing an object, or discarding something, you have a point. The intended insulting side is insufficient, while being factually accurate by the "throwing away your freedom" connotation. Poor word choice on my part. Thank you for pointing it out.

Are you sure you didn't mean stinking dirty murdering muslim bastard or similar? The stinking, dirty, and bastard part are of course insults, the Muslim part is just the excuse, one on one.

If one guy rapes a girl, I could care less his excuse. Don't give a flying fart for his reasons. If he tells me he was so ordered by some long dead preacher, I don't care. Heck, I'm against capital punishment, but I'd be fine with you taking the rapist, tying some concrete blocks to him and tossing him in the River. I'd help you pay the fine for littering.

If ten thousand guys rape thousands of girls, and insist it's on the orders of some long dead preacher, you have jihad. Not the happy, let's work hard to keep my bagel business going in Baghdad, struggle in life, as depicted by useful idiots, but the "you will submit to the exact religious rules I insist on or I will kill you and your family" struggle against the freedom to go to the church you choose, or not to.

I don't care what church you want to go to. I don't care if you think organized religion is a major con job to keep bishops fat and happy while they diddle altar boys. ( I might even hoist a brew with you complaining about that ) You want to not go to church? fine by me. You want to pray 17 times a day while facing Aldebaran while wearing a badger hat? party on. I'll even stand with you against the PETA people for your right to wear a badger hat.

You want to kill anyone who wears a badger hat while facing Aldebaran 17 times a day?

I'm not your buddy.
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Rocket_in_uk
Posted on Saturday, October 18, 2014 - 07:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think you kowtow to an infested media of exaggeration and a government allowing such media to brainwash you on their behalf. All part of the plan. Stir up our nations people into a blind hatred. Helps justify our needs for 'invasion', land grab, watch the money, power, and control, roll back our way.

Here's what you should be doing instead of chewing a fking library of history books.

http://www.traveller.com.au/why-you-should-visit-a -muslim-country-10ohqq

10000 rapists my arse. YOU TYPECAST and you're scared BECAUSE YOUR GOVERNMENT REQUIRES YOU TO BE.

YOU DON'T GET IT


Rocket in England
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Rocket_in_uk
Posted on Saturday, October 18, 2014 - 07:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well, since in America few know that "tosser" refers to a masturbatory kind of fellow, and instead think it means throwing an object, or discarding something, you have a point. The intended insulting side is insufficient, while being factually accurate by the "throwing away your freedom" connotation. Poor word choice on my part. Thank you for pointing it out {UTTER RUBBISH }

You're gladly ignorant when your veiled racist insults are put up in real words.

We are not talking about 'tosser' but JIHADIST. Your choice of word. Your choice of meaning. Directed at me specifically.

"Should I choose to use the word tosser to refer to people who throw away their rational self interest to support jihadists?"

really.....

Should I choose to use the word tosser to refer to people Rocket who throws away rational self interest to support jihadists stinking dirty murdering muslim bastard or similar?


Don't prat around with me you jew bigot. I know exactly what you meant and in what context you used it.


Rocket in England
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Reindog
Posted on Saturday, October 18, 2014 - 08:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

Rocket said: Don't prat around with me you jew bigot.




Knock it off immediately, Rocket. Keep your virulent antisemitism to yourself. This is what we heard in the Third Reich. NEVER AGAIN and I mean it!

KNOCK IT OFF, DUDE.
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, October 18, 2014 - 09:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rocket sounds more like a minion of the national socialist workers party every day.

Saddam Hussein's clan supported them too, before switching loyalty to the Soviets. Deja vu.

The rise in anti-semite bigotry reported in Europe seems to be accurate too. That's current history.

Why Rocket thinks he can insult me by calling me a Jew may go deep into his problems with believing "jihadists" are regular Muslims.

Probably thinks Muslim is a race, too.
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, October 18, 2014 - 09:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Funniest part is he thinks my government wants me to be afraid of the jihadi. Who does he think armed ISIS in the first place? Why does he think I support their policies?

Does he actually LIKE Obama? ?????
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Sifo
Posted on Saturday, October 18, 2014 - 09:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I fear my government more than I fear ISIS.
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, October 18, 2014 - 10:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well they are more ruthless in dealing with their enemies.

Too bad that means us.
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, October 18, 2014 - 11:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

10,000 was a number given for ISIS troops.

The folk running the slave camps and raping Christian and Muslim women.
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, October 18, 2014 - 11:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/16/russi a-bolsters-military-presence-former-soviet-states

Correction to my comment above.

Not slave camps.

Slave markets. There is a difference, I misspoke.
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Daddio
Posted on Saturday, October 18, 2014 - 01:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

really.....

Should I choose to use the word tosser to refer to people Rocket who throws away rational self interest to support jihadists stinking dirty murdering muslim bastard or similar?


Don't prat around with me you jew bigot. I know exactly what you meant and in what context you used it.

Classic projection...
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, October 18, 2014 - 04:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/390456/when-a nti-islamophobia-pro-isis-jonah-goldberg
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Rocket_in_uk
Posted on Saturday, October 18, 2014 - 04:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Knock it off immediately, Rocket. Keep your virulent antisemitism to yourself. This is what we heard in the Third Reich. NEVER AGAIN and I mean it!

There's only one apparent racist amongst those contributing. Hiding behind a faith is a disgusting act in itself. More so when it garners the support from others of that faith. Like it has you.

As it goes, there is nothing anti semitic about telling a jew they're a bigot when they've openly spoken like a bigot many times in this topic.

Don't brand me anti semitic when nothing could be further from the fking truth, then warn me off like I'm the racist troublemaker. You knock it off, and read the shit your jewish friend is posting.


Rocket in England
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