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Rocket_in_uk
Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2014 - 05:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The fruits of which shoot down rockets aimed at innocent people in Israel every day.

I was warming towards you until you poisoned it with this.

When are you going to post up information from a completely unbiased source?



I'll engage with this later - work calls.




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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2014 - 07:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wonder what bit of propaganda I violated there?

That Hamas shoots missiles at their neighbors on average several times a day? How can that well established fact upset him?

That the tech developed by the SDI program shoots some down? Ditto.

That the children those missiles are pointed at are innocent?
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Reindog
Posted on Tuesday, September 30, 2014 - 10:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rocket is an bigot who hates Jews and Israel so don't be surprised when he glorifies the Terrorists of Hamas who indiscriminately fire missiles which are protected by Palestinian children acting as shields.

It is mind boggling that a person purportedly in possession with a brain can support Hamas.

Rocket also repairs Saabs.
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, October 02, 2014 - 09:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

From Iraq, hope. From Iraqis, mind you, not the Muslim Blitherhood loving coward in Chief.

http://www.pjtv.com/?cmd=mpg&load=10313&mpid=105
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Rocket_in_uk
Posted on Friday, October 03, 2014 - 03:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's probably just propaganda ; ) Good to know if true though.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyWul35JnjY



Rocket in England
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, October 03, 2014 - 09:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Touching. Parts may even be true. Did you find any vids of Lenin feeding the poor, or Stalin petting a horse with fondness?

How about Golda Meir and Margaret Thatcher beating cats with cricket bats? Pretty sure you can find a still photo if you look.

I do know you can find a cartoon of them draining the blood of kidnapped arab children to make their Purim pudding. Might be in 2 cartoons.

Still, great find. Looks like they hired Obama's people to make the video, but not a big budget, which would fit with the humble nature of the subject.
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Reindog
Posted on Friday, October 03, 2014 - 10:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rocket is simply trolling. That music made me want to stand and say "F*** yeah!". Was that the theme from "Crimson Tide"?
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Kenm123t
Posted on Saturday, October 04, 2014 - 11:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For the Slow Shoot at Israel Get shot bombed etc. Don't shoot you wont be shot back at. Europeans that side with Hamas and the PA are dumber than flat worms if you think you will stop Israel from defending its self.

Keep pushing Israel into a corner and you will find them launching Nuke strikes all over the mid east They will have no other choice Be very careful what you wish for Netayahu is not the Pussy Obama is
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Rocket_in_uk
Posted on Sunday, October 12, 2014 - 07:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For the Slow Shoot at Israel Get shot bombed etc. Don't shoot you wont be shot back at. Europeans that side with Hamas and the PA are dumber than flat worms if you think you will stop Israel from defending its self.

Keep pushing Israel into a corner and you will find them launching Nuke strikes all over the mid east They will have no other choice Be very careful what you wish for Netayahu is not the Pussy Obama is




How mislead can one be?


https://vimeo.com/105781294

"If you have seen the character of the Israeli oppression of the Palestinian people, you will never forget it. It is so systematic, it is so brutal, it is so merciless. Reality speaks for itself."



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Kenm123t
Posted on Sunday, October 12, 2014 - 09:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rocket when they hide behind children and kill the tunnel builders too keep them from leaking info I doubt that oppression Go to the heritage foundation and listen to Brigitte Gabriel and how her own people treated her and her mother Then how the Israelis treated them before you listen to the PA terrorists.
Oh and where have you been its been too quiet your like the Crazy Uncle we love one day then we want to disown lol you old sheep chaser.
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Rocket_in_uk
Posted on Sunday, October 12, 2014 - 10:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Why not take the view of a seemingly unbiased eminent surgeon trying to save (and preserve) life there?

You mean Gabriel the pro Israel Islamaphobe?

http://www.loonwatch.com/2009/04/a-case-study-in-s incere-hypocrisy-brigitte-gabriel/

You're right about one thing Kenneth. Sheep are more attractive than your favoured bigoted bitch.


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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Sunday, October 12, 2014 - 10:27 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A phobia is an irrational fear. Having a healthy skepticism about Islam is not irrational.
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Blake
Posted on Sunday, October 12, 2014 - 10:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/russia-dep loying-tactical-nuclear-arms-in-crimea/

A Russian Defense Ministry spokesman told state-run Interfax March 26 that a “missile-carrying regiment” of Tu-22 Backfire nuclear bombers will be deployed to the Crimean airbase at Gvardeyskoye within two years.

IHS Jane’s Defence Weekly described the nuclear-capable Tu-22s to be based in Crimea as “the backbone of Soviet naval strike units during the Cold War.”

Rogers, the strategic forces subcommittee chairman, said Sept. 18 that the Russians have discussed “plans to station tactical nuclear weapons in Crimea.”
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Rocket_in_uk
Posted on Monday, October 13, 2014 - 05:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Having a healthy skepticism about Islam is not irrational.

It doesn't take a genius, in fact a quick Google shows, she has a great deal more than a "healthy skepticism".

What she is, is as described. An Islamophobe. By her own admissions she appears proud of such. So let's not paint her anything but.


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Rocket_in_uk
Posted on Monday, October 13, 2014 - 05:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Forgive my ignorance but why should Russia not deploy its weapons of choice in Crimea?

I'd have thought her doing so would be bloody obvious. More so in the face of Western land grabbing in the region.

Oh I forgot. I'm debating with American's.

That said, I don't think it's going to make much difference where a nuke is launched from, give or take a few hundred miles. We are talking here about the significance Russia gives to the region rather than nuclear ability, and if this turns out to be factual, it would appear the West (the U.S. ultimately) brought this on themselves, meddling in Ukraine as they are.


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Blake
Posted on Monday, October 13, 2014 - 08:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yearning for the old USSR, your ignorance (tactical nukes) is only matched by your delusion.
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, October 13, 2014 - 08:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"More so in the face of Western land grabbing in the region."

What in the hell are you talking about? Who invaded whom?
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Rocket_in_uk
Posted on Monday, October 13, 2014 - 02:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Why must someone be yearning for the old USSR to have an opinion which doesn't favour America's imperialism?

I thought this accusatory conversation was off limits. Or is this just for me?




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Rocket_in_uk
Posted on Monday, October 13, 2014 - 02:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

What in the hell are you talking about? Who invaded whom?


Suggest read back many pages ; )


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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, October 13, 2014 - 04:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have. Nothing indicates that a Western nation has invaded Ukraine, or any other former Soviet buffer state, other than your claims that they have. Be specific. Which Western country has performed a land grab on which Eastern European country? Please provide some evidence of an invasion with your response.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, October 13, 2014 - 11:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hoot, it's simple.

Putin felt threatened by the EU, the expansion of NATO into his sphere, and Russia had been promised ( by someone, don't recall whom ) that NATO would not surround his tiny and weak nation. So he had no choice but to invade the Ukraine, hold fake elections, invade Ukraine again, shoot down a civilian airliner, ( a mistake, like every other time Russia has shot down a civilian airliner ) and have his minions threaten to turn Europe and the United States into a radioactive wasteland. No choice, I tell you!

This has Nothing to do with any other Russian Invasions of former Soviet slave states, like Georgia, even though the excuse, that He only wanted to protect the poor Russian speaking people the Soviets had sent to live there as an act of slow genocide and political power, are exactly the same.

It may have a lot to do with the obvious dishonesty of Obama, or his role as Putin's love child... it's hard to tell, since Obama lies like a rug. I mean, You don't trust him not to make war on YOU, why should Putin?

And to be fair, Doves have a tendency to bluster and back themselves into a corner, then being incapable of comprehending war, cause it to be much worse. In Rand studies where politicians are run through a "you are the President and X has invaded Y" the Doves tend to go to nuclear Armageddon.

That doesn't really work with Obama, though, because even though he plays a Dove on TV he's proven his ability to order people murdered and is proud of it.

So while we watch Obama bomb the nation of a staunch Russian ally, with utter incompetence, because of poll numbers, know that when the City near you turns into a firestorm, It WASN'T Putin's fault.

It was yours.

It sure as hell is not going to be Obama's.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, October 13, 2014 - 11:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wish I had the article handy...

The Caliphate War is Our Fault.

Actually you can blame America's first Progressive President, Woodrow, France, and England. back after World War One.

Apparently in the process of breaking up the Ottoman Empire, and giving the pieces to their friends, France and England promised each and every one that they would be the heart of the new caliphate, the Empire they broke up, and look at what really happened! No new Empire.

So It's all the English and French fault, and apparently Woodrow's though I don't know how much influence he had over the Colonial Powers in the decision making process. If he had any, feel free to blame him too.

And that's why ISIS deserves to conquer the world....

Given that premise we are just fools for telling anyone in that part of the world to stop selling slaves, or killing each other, or doing genocide, since WE promised them they could.

Me, I don't agree, but I'm in the camp that believes their behavior makes any excuse or righteous cause they may claim to have meaningless.

You slaughter civilians by choice, you sell sex slaves, you commit genocide on people who have lived on their land since long before your Prophet was born, I don't give a darn. I'm thinking a paraphrase of one of William Halsey Jr's most famous lines.

Good thing I'm not in charge, eh?
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Rocket_in_uk
Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2014 - 05:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jeez you don't half make arguing boring.



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Rocket_in_uk
Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2014 - 06:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Nothing indicates that a Western nation has invaded Ukraine, or any other former Soviet buffer state, other than your claims that they have. Be specific. Which Western country has performed a land grab on which Eastern European country? Please provide some evidence of an invasion with your response.


What makes you think I'd respond to stupidity.......


Answers you seek are here (I suspect you know them - you faining ignorance). Note the date stamp.


http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2004/06/nato-j10.h tml



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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2014 - 06:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"What makes you think I'd respond to stupidity......."

I don't even know how to respond to that other than to say that offering membership in an organization is not the same as an invasion. Surely you can see the difference?

You do know what an invasion is, yes?

Still waiting for some evidence that a western country has invaded eastern europe.
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2014 - 07:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Germanicus.
Napoleon.
Hitler.
3 enough for you?

The latter 2 killed a lot of Russians.

My tedious facts are at least not propaganda from a religion of lies.

I trust my sarcasm at Putin's "needful actions" are obvious enough to be distinguished from the actual historical facts?

England & France both invaded Russia.
England & France drew the lines on the map of the middle east to reward their allies. Twice.
England & France were both colonial powers that ruled vast Empires.

England is the past master at pitting one religious faction against another to distract the forces that would eject them from their exploitive colonial rule.

England left behind nations that have the most freedom, and the best economies on the planet.

Contrast that with Belgium, who's former colonies closely resemble hell on Earth.

Or Russia, that has spread more death across this planet than the Black Death.
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Alfau
Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2014 - 07:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Most Powerful Person in the World

No wonder he was selected by Forbes as the most powerful person in the world.
This is one time our elected leaders should pay attention to the advice of Vladimir Putin.
It is a sad day when a Communist Leader makes more sense than our LEADERS here.

(Except that he’s not a communist! Far from it!)

"In Russia, live like Russians. Any minority, from anywhere, if it wants to live in Russia, to work and eat in Russia, it should speak Russian, and should respect the Russian laws. If they prefer Sharia Law, and live the life of Muslim's then we advise them to go to those places where that's the state law.
"Russia does not need Muslim minorities. Minorities need Russia, and we will not grant them special privileges, or try to
change our laws to fit their desires, no
matter how loud they yell 'discrimination'.
We will not tolerate disrespect of our
Russian culture. We better learn from the
suicides of America, England, Holland and
France, if we are to survive as a nation.
The Muslims are taking over those countries
and they will not take over Russia. The
Russian customs and traditions are not
compatible with the lack of culture or the
primitive ways of Sharia Law and Muslims.
"When this honorable legislative body
thinks of creating new laws, it should have
in mind the Russian national interest first,
observing that the Muslims Minorities
Are Not Russians."
The politicians in the Duma gave Putin a
five minute standing ovation.
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2014 - 09:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Germanicus.
Napoleon.
Hitler"

Cute. Pretty sure we're talking about current events.
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, October 14, 2014 - 10:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cute. Pretty sure we're talking about current events.

Only in the sense that the propaganda was printed this month. The Ministry of Truth uses a lot of boilerplate.

Besides, Rocket complains when I use history to refute his stuff, I can use history to support his point too.

Yes, Russia hasn't been invaded this year.

The memories of past invasions lingers on. Ask anyone from Stalingrad. The US doesn't have mass graves that the old folk visit every Sunday.

You can tell how much shelling a Russian town had in the last invasion by the ratio of old, pretty buildings and Soviet ugly concrete in the city center.

German invaded Russia so many times it's a tradition, like France.

That may not be a rational excuse to invade Ukraine, to you, but it's the reason Putting gives his people. It's the Reason Putin's minions call the Ukrainians Nazis, and, guess what? Some of their grandparents did fight for the Nazis against the Soviets.

Think for a second about that...
You live where the Soviet Hordes are raping their way across the country and turning everyone into slaves for the Glorious Revolution. They are going to steal everything you own, turn you out of your house, and you got a good chance that ancient hatreds will rise and they will murder every one in your ethnic group. And the German Hordes are.... Glorious Fuhrer.....same same.

Which side do you fight for? Do you figure out which group of socialists sucks more? or go with the side that isn't going to kill your children so your clans/families/tribes are wiped out?

Seriously, that's History.

And the Russian propaganda plays to it down the line.

Americans didn't take history, so their leaders sell their crap like toothpaste.
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Rocket_in_uk
Posted on Wednesday, October 15, 2014 - 05:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

invade

verb

(of an armed force) enter (a country or region) so as to subjugate or occupy it.

enter (a place, situation, or sphere of activity) in large numbers, especially with intrusive effect.



Fits in neatly with NATO expansion as described in the link posted.

I'm reminded of a Springsteen lyric - "where they rip you off with a smile and it don't take a gun".

Invasion in all but name. Of course, few American's would see it thus ; )


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