| Author | Message | ||
     Hughlysses |
Don't be dissing on Indian engineers. This is a pretty impressive accomplishment: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/heres-india-made-che ap-spaceship-163445055.html EDIT: OTOH, maybe THIS is one of those engineering projects EBR has been working on behind the scenes? (Message edited by Hughlysses on September 24, 2014) | ||
| Reepicheep |
I work with plenty of Indian engineers every day. I've (not surprisingly) found them no worse than any other nationality, and not a lot better either. The good ones cost more, the bad ones are cheaper, and every now and then you get a genius who isn't appreciated yet and you get a lot of bang for the buck. People are people, and all have their own personal and regional quirks. | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
how is this related to EBR? | ||
| Hughlysses |
how is this related to EBR? As I said in the subject line, it's not directly related to EBR. It's somewhat related as Indian two wheel manufacturer Hero owns 49 and some percentage of EBR and EBR engineers have been working with Hero engineers designing Hero motorcycles for some time. Hero bikes will be sold through EBR dealers next year. I thought the article showed a pretty big accomplishment by Indian engineers, which may go a ways towards dispelling the common wisdom here that everything built in India is poor quality. | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
Did Hero build this or have ANY part in it? I read the link and didnt see them mentioned I mean, I see you said its not DIRECTLY related...but is the only relation that they are Indian companies? If thats the case I should post a bunch of stuff about HDs in here, I mean, hell, they're both in WI, right? | ||
| Hughlysses |
Or you could take the much simpler expedient of ignoring threads that don't interest you. | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
nah, I want to point out your ignorance. You said, "not directly related, but.." But what? Its not directly related but not related at all? Im just curious what leads a person to think "well its one Indian company and so it must be, in some way, connected with other Indian companies." Sounds dumb,huh? Yeah, thats what YOU sound like | ||
| Hughlysses |
Hey- if you really want to go off about this, check the OTHER thread I posted about it in the EBR forum.  | ||
| M2typhoon |
Hybrid, take you ball and go home. Hero has much more at stake than HD ever did with Buell. Not only that, the things that HERO does will directly effect EBR from an engineering stand point no matter what it is. In this case, your ignorance is not bliss. | ||
| Reepicheep |
Given Hero (an Indian company) is in the midst of an engineering collaboration with EBR, and given this is a major engineering achievement for an Indian company, I found the article relevant enough and interesting. If you don't think nationalities have "engineering cultures" that bleed over into the expression of their products, you need to get out more. Ride a Triumph, then a Harley, then a Honda, then a Ducati, then a BMW, then a KTM. Ride the KTM last because it will probably strand you somewhere or kill you before you are done with it (but it will have been worth it). | ||
| Noone1569 |
Well,thanks for the article, I enjoyed reading it. | ||
| Court |
It's also germane in that so much of American engineering is now caught up in the BRIC (Brazil/Russia/India/China) economic phenomena. HERO, about 2 years ago, rolled out their (something on the order of $250B USD( Innovation and Engineering Center to develop new ideas, processes and technology. Several folks from EBR were on hand and the event was memorable. Indian Engineers, be it a space capsule, a farm machine or a hybrid scooter are on the cutting edge. I found the material both interesting and stimulating. On a simple "you mother failed to teach you manners" note . . . I work with a number of fairly sharp individuals within the Columbia and LDEO academic community. I am always aware that when I am engaged in a a dialogue with a Nobel Prize winner that they could, with every justification, call me stupid and ignorant. Never has that happened. Even when the "me and them" intellectual chasm is a mile wide, they are, without exception, kind, engaged and respectful. The smaller of mind and less experienced among our number could learn from that. I doubt they will. | ||
| Bob_thompson |
Hope its not high jacking the foremost subject but I too had a similar experience Court back in '69 with highly educated people. I was building a mid-engined 427 cu. in. Corvair for super performance on the streets of Chicago. I began researching a suitable trans axle and went to Carl Haas engineering (of the now famous Newman-Haas racing team) in the city, to see what they might have for my project as they were the mid-west distributors for the famous Hewland, of England, gear boxes (trans axels), for Indy cars. Well I was very apprehensive; lets face it a hot car kid, I was 28, seeking advice from world class Indy racers. Well I went in, was greeted by a secretary and introduced to the man himself, Carl Haas. He was very pleasant after explaining what I wanted to do and introduced me to an Oxford automotive engineer who also treated me with fine courtesy and explained exactly what they could do for me and even had a perfect 5 speed older new trans axle they were discounting 50%. They even installed my own selection of final drive ratio (ring & pinion). Well, they made me feel like one of them and were both enthused with my very humble project and said to let them know how it turned out. While the engineer and myself discussed things for my project I got an education from him in weight distribution and putting H.P. to the ground for acceleration. I bought the trans axle and went away with a newly found respect for many highly educated people that can treat someone with similar interests with dignity and honesty. Similar to what you said, small minds produce small results. My project is pictured below. At the time it could beat any super car, 427 Vettes, 426 Hemi's, etc, etc, up to at least 120 mph by 10 car lengths thanks to some fine highly educated and humble people I met in my life. And finally when I met Erik and Michael Tejon at Millers A few years back in between races when they were not too busy, they also treated me humbly but with great knowledge and interest in my question on the engines and handling. I do love this company for the people it employs. Thanks guys and continued great success for the future. Sorry about the old Polaroid picture quality.    | ||
| Froggy |
Not to piss in the cheerios or anything, but this section is called "EBR & Buell in the News". Normally we are fairly loose with the rules regarding what goes where, but given this has absolutely nothing to do with EBR or Buell, it is better off in the Quick Board. Moving. | ||
| Bob_thompson |
Moderator: "but given this has absolutely nothing to do with EBR or Buell, it is better off in the Quick Board. Moving." Bob: "And finally when I met Erik and Michael Tejon at Millers A few years back in between races when they were not too busy, they also treated me humbly but with great knowledge and interest in my question on the engines and handling. I do love this company for the people it employs. Thanks guys and continued great success for the future." Court: "The smaller of mind and less experienced among our number could learn from that. I doubt they will." With all due respect Froggy, I was trying to make a point with a very good example, sorry you missed it my friend. Bob (Message edited by Bob_thompson on September 25, 2014) | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
"Not to piss in the cheerios or anything, but this section is called "EBR & Buell in the News". Normally we are fairly loose with the rules regarding what goes where, but given this has absolutely nothing to do with EBR or Buell, it is better off in the Quick Board. Moving." At least someone here gets it. | ||
| Pwnzor |
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| Ferris_von_bueller |
Rumor has it some of the parts used in the construction of the spacecraft were Hero motorcycle parts. So, can we move this thread back to the "EBR and Buell in the News" section? | ||
| Reducati |
that corvair is stunning!!! im looking for a corvair or karman gia...beutiful cars!!! | ||
| Aesquire |
Thanks for the info, it does belong on the quick board, and GO India! Also cool Corvair. Would you believe the Corvair engine is still popular for home built airplanes? It was that good. Ralph Nader was a tool. | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
"Rumor has it some of the parts used in the construction of the spacecraft were Hero motorcycle parts. " If that was the case it wouldnt have finished the trip/race (ala WSBK) :P "Hybrid, take you ball and go home. Hero has much more at stake than HD ever did with Buell. Not only that, the things that HERO does will directly effect EBR from an engineering stand point no matter what it is. In this case, your ignorance is not bliss." I'll agree with a majority of this, but the fact remains that HERO wasnt involved in this, which was my point all along. If ignorance is bliss, at least on this, youre the happiest MFer alive | ||
| Hughlysses |
The point of posting the article was to show that Indian engineers recently accomplished something very impressive. OK, so maybe "Buell and EBR in the News" wasn't best location to post it. Indian engineers successfully designed and launched a probe to Mars. Therefore, Indian engineers are capable of accomplishing impressive tasks. Indian engineers also work at Hero. That's all I was trying to point out. | ||
| Hootowl |
I'm stealing that Mat. |
