| Author | Message | ||
     Sifo |
I see they are protesting again. Here's their future... Here's The Burger-Flipping Robot That Could Put Fast-Food Workers Out Of A Job
No doubt the future fast food workers will be much better paid. They will also require training to run and maintain complicated machinery. It's doubtful that these new fast food workers will come from the pool of people protesting for $15 per hour fry cooks. | ||
| Hootowl |
The squeaky wheel gets replaced. | ||
| Reindog |
One of the protesters sign said, "Whatever it takes" I wholeheartedly agree and here are some suggestions: * get a high school diploma or GED. * go to college for a field which affords a living. * go to a trade school and learn a trade. * BE the very best producer for your employer that you possibly can be. It is GUARANTEED that you will be paid MORE than Minimum Wage quickly. This BS is nothing more than Obama's War on America and the dying gasps of the unions. | ||
| Reepicheep |
I wonder what percentage of jobs are actually minimum wage jobs? Are there really that many? 1%? 10%? 25%? 50%? Ah! Google knew. 4.7% in 2012 (probably higher now thanks to Obama's leadership). Only 5% of jobs. Seriously, of course the bottom 5% of the market gets the bottom 5% of the pay. If anything, that sounds low, and it seems like an argument *against* the need for a minimum wage in the first place, and an argument that the minimum wage is giving these employees more than they deserve based on skills. 95% of all employers have discovered that they must offer more than mimimum wage in order to get the people they need. Or maybe they just pay more because they are nice. 95 out of 100. | ||
| Court |
Hmmmmmmm ........ Sitting down in the middle of the street in Times Square? Now ....... It's clear how you get into that 5%. Look ........ Everybody is chompin' at the bit for more money ..... I get that. There are two roads you may take: 1). Ask someone else to "give" it to you. 2). Earn it yourself. Interesting how various folks view these two options. Watch the news for a bit ask ask yourself if politicians are who you want determining your destiny. | ||
| Macbuell |
This has little to do with minimum wage employees and everything to do with Unions that want to increase the Floor in the wage scale. http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB100014241278 87324048904578318541000422454 The Center for Union Facts analyzed collective-bargaining agreements obtained from the Department of Labor's Office of Labor-Management Standards. The data indicate that a number of unions in the service, retail and hospitality industries peg their base-line wages to the minimum wage. The Labor Department's collective-bargaining agreements file has a limited number of contracts available, so we were unable to determine how widespread the practice is. But the United Food and Commercial Workers International Union says that pegging its wages to the federal minimum is commonplace. On its website, the UFCW notes that "oftentimes, union contracts are triggered to implement wage hikes in the case of minimum wage increases." Such increases, the UFCW says, are "one of the many advantages of being a union member." The labor contracts that we examined used a variety of methods to trigger the increases. The two most popular formulas were setting baseline union wages as a percentage above the state or federal minimum wage or mandating a wage premium above the minimum wage. | ||
| Hootowl |
"New shit has come to light" ~Jeff 'The Dude' Lebowski | ||
| Slaughter |
I cannot possibly imagine having the expectation that my first job in high school should have supported me and another mouth or two to feed. Agree with Reindog. ALSO as Macbuell stated, MANY union contracts are written to be tied to minimum wage. | ||
| Zane |
Before asking for $15 an hour they should ask themselves what they can do WORTH $15 an hour. Protesting really isn't a job skill. Bunch of butt wipes, all of them! | ||
| Aesquire |
It is very hard to pay for life in a city like Chicago, much less NYC on minimum wage. When it's been my luck to be in that position I worked 2-3 part time jobs until I found better work. I wasn't making minimum wage inside a month at most of the part times jobs I've ever had. Still looked for a better job. The bottom line is if the minimum wage is $15 hr. then only jobs worth more than $15 get filled. Everyone doing less valuable work get's laid off, and the job either doesn't get done or is replaced by machines or better paid workers in their diminished spare time. Sucks for all involved. Why not make minimum wage $120 hr? I could live with a part time job, ( now defined as 29 hours a week per the Unaffordable Care Act ) at that wage. Can you give me any reason ( other than my statement above ) why I shouldn't get that pay? And, yes. I HAVE worked at McDonalds. One of my first jobs. Hot greasy burns cleaning vomit.... but the fries used to be good. | ||
| Reepicheep |
Especially given that 95 out of 100 jobs pay more than that! And why on earth would you choose to make minimum wage, and live in (expensive) urban areas. Choose one or the other... | ||
| Sifo |
This has little to do with minimum wage employees and everything to do with Unions that want to increase the Floor in the wage scale. I think that is an absolute fact. This is being pushed, largely by the SEIU union, and they have nothing to do with fast food workers. That won't stop them from using them as useful idiots. If they can use them to bump the minimum wage to $15.00, many of the SEIU workers, the vast majority I would bet, will see their pay scales increase. The fast food useful idiot OTOH, will get replaced by robotics. They will find themselves discarded like yesterdays news papers, having served their purpose to further an agenda. | ||
| Froggy |
At my local McDonald's, the drink machine is automated, it works pretty nice. Once the order is wrung up, the machine automatically dispenses a cup, it is moved to the first stop where it gets ice, then the cup moves down to the specified drink and it fills it right to the top without spilling. I can't recall if it gets a lid automatically though. McDonald's has a location where they beta test new tech like that and new menu items. They also have touch screen ordering like Sheetz and Wawa there, which is great at getting me to spend more than I intended. I bet they will have online ordering soon like Dominos and other pizza chains. | ||
| Torquehd |
I think every law abiding taxpayer should have to pay for the Affordable Fast Food Act. This will ensure that Americans, everywhere, have access to affordable fast food. Oh, you don't eat fast food, and you don't want to pay for the fatass who eats Mcflurries for breakfast, lunch, and dinner? Well, it doesn't matter, because what difference, at this point, does it make? And by the way, under my plan... chicken nugget prices would necessarily skyrocket. | ||
| Court |
That's be funny . . . were it not so damn close to true. The good thing is folks can call in orders on their "Free Obama Phone". | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
The affordable fast food act sounds like a significant first step to food equality. The three months I spent working at McDolands was VERY long. It did however cure me of my love of those shakes. NOT milk shakes. just "Shakes". I had to clean that horrid machine every night. I saw no dairy products involved. Looks like a bucked of spackling compound before the phoney flavorings are added. | ||
| Thumper74 |
I loved my time working in fast food. In high school. I made good friends and had fun. I also grew up. I took on additional responsibilities, learned new skills, got an education. I know college graduates not making $15.00/hr. The people advocating $15.00/hr as new minimum wage, probably don't understand how the world works. If you raise minimum wage to $15.00/hr, those minimum wage employees enjoy a temporary increase in buying power. Temporary. This wage increase also causes an increase in the same things they produce, reducing their buying power. Or worse, driving the company out of the country, causing them to lose their jobs all together. | ||
| Etennuly |
Yeah that'll work. Move all of the McDs to China or Mexico and order on the internet. Your burger and fries will be shipped in a cargo container(with heat lamps I'm sure)to your lap top in fifteen days. No pimple faced $15 per hour American kids needed. The one's complaining will simply loose out to middle class workers who might actually be worth $15 per hour who will surely replace them. They will still not find a job. | ||
| Reepicheep |
I think the shakes are mainly sea kelp. | ||
| Slaughter |
Those idiots are going to have to lobby to have their food stamp limits raised (OK, EBT) because it'll be harder for them to buy fast food. (grumble) | ||
| Crusty |
The one's complaining will simply loose out to middle class workers who might actually be worth $15 per hour who will surely replace them. They will still not find a job. I doubt that. The way the middle class has been shrinking, there won't be any middle class workers in the near future. Like it or not, we're heading for a two class society. Dem whats gots and dem whats ain'ts. | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
>the shakes are mainly sea kelp... No soylent green is sea kelp. Perhaps the saint Patric day shakes are soylent green. (some people added for texture) | ||
| Froggy |
Whatever it is in those St Patrick Day themed shakes, it is damn freaking tasty  | ||
| Xdigitalx |
http://www.soylent.me/ My 30 day supply....  | ||
| Aesquire |
Once upon a time McDonalds shakes were Milk Shakes, back when they used Mixmasters. ( the product Ray Kroc was selling when he ran into the McDonalds Brother's burger joint. ) when they went to the extruded Shakes, they were made from a polymer compound with a milk byproduct base... there may indeed be Kelp in there. Remember the rumor that McDonalds was making burgers out of earthworms? They responded to that by explaining that Earthworms were in fact very nutritious and good for you, but they did not use them since they cost far more than beef. Just like they won't use teenagers anymore if they are too expensive. | ||
| Xdigitalx |
Do vegetarian animals taste better than a carnivores? ... so... If that movie became a reality... I suppose healthy vegans and vegetarians would be tastier then meat eaters me thinks. | ||
| Patches |
Soylent GREEN? | ||
| Froggy |
I don't believe so, but I can't say I've ever eaten anything carnivorous. Cattle are herbivores, while they taste great, omnivores like pig taste better in my opinion. I can't name any carnivores that you would typically find on a farm, it is likely difficult to raise them due to their nature and diets. Is hunting bear legal? That is probably the closest we can practically get. | ||
| Xdigitalx |
If everyone was a vegetarian wouldn't we be up a creek without a paddle?? Or vegan? | ||
| Alchemy |
Probably the most common carnivores on any menu would be fish like Tuna. Interesting question. The way I look at it the best food for us is the food that consumes the lowest on the food chain. Consuming at the top of the food chain could result in more concentrations of toxins. The largest whales tend to eat right at the bottom of the food chain where the toxin concentrations may be lower. |
