| Author | Message | ||
     Cataract2 |
Tom, you are really good at seeing what you want to see when nothing is there to see. That's why I got you the mat. | ||
| Sifo |
All I see from you is hate speech, despite asking for intellectual discussion. What am I missing? | ||
| Cataract2 |
Hate speech? You have a really loose definition of hate speech. If what I'm putting up is hate speech than all of those posts you make about the President are major league hate speech, and you have made a lot of them. Along with all of those cartoons you post. Hell, are you certain you don't belong to some hate group? Could of fooled me if you don't. Honestly, do you even know what hate speech is? Really, it's funny how you call it hate speech and yet in the same breath go on about the Constitution and freedom of speech and all of that jazz. I know what you are, H.Y.P.O.C.R.I.T.E. You don't want an intellectual discussion. You never have. Hence why I don't bother wasting my time with you. I do get to have some fun though. (Message edited by cataract2 on August 08, 2014) | ||
| Sifo |
Opposing an intellectual idea is not hate speech. Even opposing a religious belief isn't hate speech. Attacking religious beliefs the way you are however falls into that category. I get to have training on the subject at least once a year as part of my job. If you must insist that my opposition to BO's agenda is hate speech though, then you would certainly have to admit that what you have done in this thread certainly is hate speech. Well, I suppose you wouldn't admit it. | ||
| Cataract2 |
I think you need to pay better attention during those training sessions verses playing on your phone posting on badweb. You missed some important information during it. As for what I've done, the most I've done is poke fun. You seem to be the one who's got his panties in a wad over it and then started saying it's hate speech. lol. Ah, the badweb circle jerk of hypocrisy. It never fails to entertain. (Message edited by cataract2 on August 08, 2014) | ||
| Sifo |
Really, it's funny how you call it hate speech and yet in the same breath go on about the Constitution and freedom of speech and all of that jazz. I know what you are, H.Y.P.O.C.R.I.T.E. Really? Have I called for banning your hate speech? That comes from the progressives, not me. IMO, you are within your rights to use such speech. Of course that may change as we get more "progress". The funny thing here is that your belief that there is no God is based on no more than my belief that there is a God. Yet you claim to have some kind of moral superiority on this. It's nothing but your belief! | ||
| Sifo |
As for what I've done, the most I've done is poke fun. The very definition of bullying. | ||
| Hughlysses |
Cataract- I'm with Sifo on this one. WTF are you trying to start a fight? Go ride your Buell or have a beer and chill. | ||
| Cataract2 |
The funny thing here is that your belief that there is no God is based on no more than my belief that there is a God. Yet you claim to have some kind of moral superiority on this. It's nothing but your belief! Keep jumping, you might just get in shape. I'm with Sifo on this one. WTF are you trying to start a fight? Go ride your Buell or have a beer and chill. Because he's just so cute when he gets all emotional. | ||
| Fredfast |
"In my experience, atheists are clearly really pissed off with God about something and express it by denying their belief in Him." That's really stupid. | ||
| Hughlysses |
That's really stupid. Oh, I agree, but it's true.  | ||
| Sifo |
Keep jumping, you might just get in shape. Well please share this negative proof on the existence of God. Funny thing is, I can present evidence that there is a God, but it's virtually impossible to do the opposite. By definition, your belief is a larger leap of faith than mine. I simply equated them for the sake of argument. | ||
| Cataract2 |
Eventually you might catch on that I was not speaking about the existence or non-existence of God, but I'm thinking your head is to thick for that. | ||
| Sifo |
Eventually you might catch on that I was not speaking about the existence or non-existence of God, but I'm thinking your head is to thick for that. Well clearly the existence of God is on one side of the discussion. You chose to use a symbol that is representative of atheists to create the contrast on which to set the discussion. Interesting that you claim this isn't about the existence or non-existence of God. | ||
| Fredfast |
" I can present evidence that there is a God, but it's virtually impossible to do the opposite." You go first. This ought to be good. | ||
| Cataract2 |
You go first. This ought to be good. I was thinking of asking him to do that. I agree, this ought to be very good. Food for thought about your claim that Christians are persecuted so much. http://tinyurl.com/akvssv9 http://tinyurl.com/qbq3ryc | ||
| Sifo |
Food for thought about your claim that Christians are persecuted so much. Providing proof that Islamists discriminate against atheists is hardly proof of anything beyond their extremist nature. You may notice that they discriminate against Christians and Jews at least as much. Meanwhile in the free world, the discrimination tends to be pretty much against Christians and Jews, largely perpetrated by the atheists. I was thinking of asking him to do that. I agree, this ought to be very good. Well lets start with written accounts of the rising of Christ. That is certainly evidence of there being a God. Your turn. EDIT: BTW, You just walked into a suckers argument. If you understood scientific principles you would know why. (Message edited by SIFO on August 08, 2014) | ||
| Cataract2 |
Well lets start with written accounts of the rising of Christ. That is certainly evidence of there being a God. That's what you have? Hahahahahahahaha I'm not even wasting my time with you on this. You are right though, it is a suckers argument. I have the Bible, this is my proof. Give me a break. Come back with real evidence and we'll talk. BTW, how in the free world are Christians and Jews being attacked? I keep seeing you write about it, but never seem to see any proof of that happening? Are they being beheaded? About the only thing I'm seeing is the removal of laws referring to God from government. Which I have no issue with as I feel the US government should be secular. (Message edited by cataract2 on August 08, 2014) | ||
| Sifo |
That's what you have? Hahahahahahahaha I'm not even wasting my time with you on this. You are right though, it is a suckers argument. I have the Bible, this is my proof. Give me a break. Come back with real evidence and we'll talk. Far from all I have, but it's your turn. You asked to play this game. Take your turn. | ||
| Xdigitalx |
Will you really be a better person by being atheist? Are you sure by being atheist you will have accomplished more in life vs being any type of religious person? Most religions teach life skills, that's what most people need. What does atheism teach? | ||
| Sifo |
Atheists are right up there with Islamists with their charities and hospitals. | ||
| Blake |
Blessed are those who endure persecution for the sake of justice, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. (Message edited by Blake on August 09, 2014) | ||
| Aesquire |
I am pretty sure the Pastafarians know their "faith" is a joke. Not hate speech. If I've offended any FSM fans....... pick from the spread between "sorry" while chuckling and riotous laughter. The trolls OTOH you might consider hateful...... but I prefer more scientific terms. Cataract did post a pic I myself find offensive but see no reason to call him out for his ignorance at this time. In any case Rocket is correct in that discussions of the persecutions by ISIS in the region isn't germane to this thread. THAT deserves it's own thread as the O regime and Congress stand by and again, abandon a nation we pledged to support to the forces of darkness for domestic political greed. I am past furious. Rocket's 180 deg wrong that the Ukraine invasion has nothing to do with his "usefulness" . Just like Durante at the NYC Times he defends the enemy of freedom. As previously stated. .... I don't trust the E.u. or the O regime. Unfortunately Rocket's usefulness is not unbiased or historically accurate information. I do thank him for his input. It is Important to know the lies told the world.......and as I said about Bill Clinton "he can't lie ALL the time......or he'd never get what he wanted for dinner." So keep an eye out for occasional facts among the propaganda. | ||
| Aesquire |
Rocket..... somewhere I saw the rebuttal to the "coexist" bumper sticker..... if I find it I'll post a link. The concept of toleration and acceptance of other's faiths IS a good and honorable stand. One I agree with. I'm less impressed by the reality as advertised. I do have the "science" rocket/fish sticker. I display it next to the model airplanes in the man cave. I also display posters of cars planes and She Hulk. It is not hate speech but ironic commentary. ( it's next to the zeppelin model over a hand made Viking chair...... if I find a nice steam punk item it'll go up too ) | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/aug/07/ant isemitism-rise-europe-worst-since-nazis | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/384722/world -war-i-continues-haunt-us-jonah-goldberg If you don't learn from history....... people who do will own you. Or your stuff when they kill you. So if Putin frees Liverpool from the oppression of the EU bureaucracy against the Russian speaking immigrants, I told you so. OTOH, according to Rocket, that may be an improvement, and he could be right. The New Soviet Empire may run things better than Hugh Grant. ( or whoever the guy at 10 Downing St. is, I forget. ) Heck, I'm pretty sure that Vladimir would be a better President of the US than Obama, if Vladimir was from here, and had the world's best interests in mind. ( he's not, and I doubt he has ) OTOH the above qualifications ( which The O lacks ) mean that a good McDonalds franchise owner would be a better President than The O. Heck, the guy who runs the quik-e-mart down the street was born in Iraq, and HE'D be a better President than Obama. At least he understands the American Dream. | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.jerrypournelle.com/chaosmanor/cossacks- being-polite-to-power-immigration-dilemma/ | ||
| Rocket_in_uk |
Rocket, YOU brought up the subject of murderous Israel. No, I responded to this claptrap actually. Your apparent willingness to believe the propaganda of such charming folk as Hamas, who use children as human shields, attack civilian targets by preference, and mask a culture of unrelenting hate with "humanitarian" concern does not speak well for your judgment. YOU just disparaged Judaism three posts north of this one. That will not stand, buddy. Did I? Oh well, I think it will given the outcry of millions protesting at the murder of children. I get it that you love Putin. I get it that you despise Israel. I get it that you disparage the United States. I get it. Clearly you DON'T get IT if you're prepared to simplify my entire contribution to this topic with such stupidity. Rocket in England | ||
| Reindog |
"the outcry of millions OF PREJUDICED DIMWITS protesting the murder of children".. indeed. Scotland launches 1000 rockets from schools and civilian populations into Yorkshire . How would Rocket respond to the rockets? Hmmmmm... I thought so. Hamas is nothing but barbaric terrorists who could care less about their own people as long as they can push forward the genocide of another people. Its been tried once before and apparently Europeans are still full of hatred. It ain't going to happen again. Wake up and stand together with Israel. | ||
| Kenm123t |
my dad and I were discussing the atheists and the unrepentant sinners in and out of the Church. The fate of the church leaders that abuse the church and its members involves something worse than deep water and a mill stone. He answered my position this way " don't worry there is plenty of room in hell" Cataract and Rocket why do you hate? Cataract your hatred of Christians seems to be a recent change. What turned you to hate ? Rocket you have admitted the reason your so cranky you Hate America If you hate us so much why do you hang out here? We don't hate you! Your posts usually have a differing perspective which are usually very interesting. Our media is pretty much useless and stupid for the most part. I read UK media and Some German media. Some is very good others make the National Equirer look like Pulitzer winners. |
