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Hughlysses
Posted on Saturday, August 02, 2014 - 05:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Apparently the official unveiling isn't until 11:30 EDT tonight, but the LA Times goofed and loaded their article early and someone caught it:

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cac he:http://www.latimes.com/business/autos/la-fi-hy- first-look-2015-indian-scout-20140801-story.html



Water-cooled V-twin, 100 HP. Interesting...
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Midknyte
Posted on Saturday, August 02, 2014 - 06:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"This is our answer to the Sportster," said Steve Menetto, Polaris' vice president of motorcycles...

Yes. Yes, it is. That is just damn sharp!
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Court
Posted on Saturday, August 02, 2014 - 07:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Interesting . . . a single disc on the LEFT side . . . I'm sure some of you have wondered why the Buell front discs were always on the right.

Yep . . there's a darn good reason.
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Saturday, August 02, 2014 - 07:22 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Do tell....
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Jaimec
Posted on Saturday, August 02, 2014 - 07:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Obviously it doesn't use the Thunderstroke V-Twin. That engine isn't nearly as attractive either. Can't wait to hear the full specifications though.
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Saturday, August 02, 2014 - 09:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When is that god awful Arlen Ness styling going to crawl away and die?
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Hughlysses
Posted on Sunday, August 03, 2014 - 08:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Now it's officially released:

http://www.indianmotorcycle.com/en-us/scout-indian -red



I like it for what it is (cruiser/bobber). Like a lot of commenters I'm reading this morning, I wish they had a version with mid-mount pegs.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Sunday, August 03, 2014 - 08:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thank you for that, Innes.... Looks like more of the same old blah to me.
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Sifo
Posted on Sunday, August 03, 2014 - 08:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was talking to a group of cruiser riders a few days ago that referred to all sport bikes (which seemed to include anything that wasn't a cruiser) as Ninjas. It's all in the eye of the beholder. To me it's nice to see technology moving forward with the traditional bikes. That's happening a lot more than many "Ninja" riders acknowledge.

Buell brakes on the right side? Was that to minimize the length of the brake hose?
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Teeps
Posted on Sunday, August 03, 2014 - 11:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sifo Posted on Sunday, August 03, 2014 -
Buell brakes on the right side? Was that to minimize the length of the brake hose?


Very likely.

Saving an inch of brake line on a vehicle could be big.
Especially when that inch is multiplied by the number of lines on a unit, times the number of units produced.

At Honda, it was not unusual that whom ever discovered a saving like that, could get a bonus, peer recognition, or an award for the effort!
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Torquehd
Posted on Sunday, August 03, 2014 - 11:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The facade just isn't aesthetically proportionate. It doesn't boast powerful curves or sharp, tight lines. And if they were shooting for nostalgia, they missed the mark. Nothing stands out, it just looks like another cruiser that isn't a Harley.

This world already has a surplus of boring cruisers. If they're not doing something to set themselves apart, their future is likely short lived. Again.
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86129squids
Posted on Sunday, August 03, 2014 - 12:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wish they'd make a modern-day Silent Gray Fellow... THAT would be both different and kewl!
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Torquehd
Posted on Sunday, August 03, 2014 - 12:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That was HD, not Indian. I could see a revival of modern bikes that look like board trackers, with small displacement motors, as commuter bikes for running around town. Hell, throw an electric motor, a modern suspension, and a board track facade together. I bet it'd sell.
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Big_island_rider
Posted on Sunday, August 03, 2014 - 02:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sorry but also-ran ugly. To each his own. I am sure people look at my Uly and think it is ugly.
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Wolfridgerider
Posted on Sunday, August 03, 2014 - 03:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Brake on the right side also makes it easy to work on when its on the side stand.
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Kenm123t
Posted on Sunday, August 03, 2014 - 03:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

COURT = TEASER
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Crusty
Posted on Sunday, August 03, 2014 - 04:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

2015 Indian Scout Leaked

How can you say that? The bike isn't even at dealers yet. How can it be leaking?
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Fredfast
Posted on Sunday, August 03, 2014 - 05:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The radiators on water-cooled V-twin cruisers ruin the looks. Sport bikes not so much.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2014 - 07:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think the venerable old Sportster may be in trouble. "9000 RPM redline"

http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2014/08/2015-indian -scout-md-first-ride/
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Trojan
Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2014 - 08:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think the venerable old Sportster may be in trouble. "9000 RPM redline"


The Indian is also a genuine 100bhp as well apparently. However...the one thing that will probably save the Sportster is price. here in the UK the Indian is set to sell at over £10K, which puts it back into big twin territory in price terms.
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Bob_thompson
Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2014 - 09:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Does anyone see an Indian "V-rod"?
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Malott442
Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2014 - 10:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

@bob, not really

The V ROD has extreme rake, plus now fat tires.

If HD would pull their head out of their, well, you know, they would make a competent handling bike out of the V. It's a hoot to drive in a straight line, but cornering is pretty darn lame. Especially with the new wide tires.

I'm pretty excited about the scout. I think it looks to be a fun bike. I'm really looking forward to the next 5 years. I want a sport (ish) bike out of them, this is pretty close!

@ COURT= My guess has got something to do with centrifugal force and the gyro effect.

I do agree the brake line theory listed earlier sounds solid as well.

(Message edited by malott442 on August 05, 2014)
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Crusty
Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2014 - 11:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My first thought when I first saw the pictures was, "Yuck". However, the more I look at it, the more interesting it looks. Put on a windshield and a set of Hepco & Becker 30L Junior bags, and it might be fun. I think I'll take a Demo ride when I get the chance, and see how it feels.
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Ffbuell1
Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2014 - 11:05 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

In response to Malott42 Harley made a v rod model called the Street Rod It had less rake and trail higher suspension, higher pipes and was the first HD with Brembo brakes The magazine test's were quite positive . I also rode one and was impressed ,but as usual the posing pirates had NO clue what they were looking at and unfortunately it did not sell well.
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Trojan
Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2014 - 11:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My guess has got something to do with centrifugal force and the gyro effect.


Those forces will be present no matter which side you mount the disc. Unless you decide to only turn left then there is no difference in physdical force whicever side you mount the disc/calliper.

In response to Malott42 Harley made a v rod model called the Street Rod It had less rake and trail higher suspension, higher pipes and was the first HD with Brembo brakes The magazine test's were quite positive . I also rode one and was impressed ,but as usual the posing pirates had NO clue what they were looking at and unfortunately it did not sell well.

It was the best selling V-Rod variant in the UK for the brief time it was available. A friend of mine has one and loves it (he used to own a Buell too). The only thing he doesn't like is the lack of pillion comfort.

The XR1200 suffered the same short sighted lack of planning by H-D sadly. It was what the Sportster always should have been but they couldn't see it : (

(Message edited by trojan on August 05, 2014)
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Thumper74
Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2014 - 11:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I really like it. The website is showing 100 hp and 74 ft/lb, for the same price as a Sportster 1200? If I were in that market, the Indian would get a serious look/comparison.

I'm eagerly waiting for the AX before I buy anything else.
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Teeps
Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2014 - 12:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bob_thompson Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2014 - Does anyone see an Indian "V-rod"?

Yes, that's the first thought I had upon viewing the above photo.
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86129squids
Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2014 - 01:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Whoops, I stand corrected, thanks TQ...

I was confusing the SGF with Indian's old inline 4, THAT I'd dearly love to see brought back! Henderson did a pretty nice one back in the day too.
Now I kinda wish I'd had time to stop by Wheels Through Time on my way home from BITA 4...

MC daily had a very positive review posted up recently of the Scout- looks to be an ideal steed for smaller folks, which is awesome...
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Josequinones
Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2014 - 04:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

HD bikes have a photo side (the right side) where they want you to see things and the other side (where they hide things)

Buell wants you to SEE the front brake. HD wants you to SEE the wheel, the air cleaner, the pipes all on the right side.

For example on the VROD the water pump was a major feature so it is on the right side, with the hose routed vertically purely for looks, to "split" the V.

On the new street 750, the water pump is on the left side, low in the engine, away from everything, and all related hoses on the left side.

For HD, Form follows Function, for Buell it was typically the opposite.

Indian is more like HD in the styling department, thus the brake is on the left side, the pipes & intake on the right.



(Message edited by josequinones on August 05, 2014)
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, August 05, 2014 - 04:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"For HD, Form follows Function, for Buell it was typically the opposite."

I think you've got that backwards.
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