| Author | Message | ||
     Hootowl |
"for houses" My heart bleeds for her. | ||
| Malott442 |
The more I read of this wretched nefarious woman, the more I realize she represents the iniquitous immunity that the rich have acquired. All of this is made possible through saturated corruption throughout our country's infrastructures. I can't express how I really feel-For it is not pleasant, legal, or free of malevolent fervor. | ||
| Reindog |
Don't worry, there is an army of fools in love with her and will vote for her. The same army elected and re-elected Obama even though they were warned as early as 2007. Most now see that their Messiah is nothing but a street thug in a good suit. They have learned nothing and will repeat the same mistake, further destroying America. I am beginning to hate Liberals, Communists, and Progressives for fundamentally dismantling America. | ||
| Macbuell |
That is such complete BS. Every politician leaves Washington far more wealthy than when they showed up and that is certainly true of the Hillary and the Clintons. | ||
| Pwnzor |
As long as my healthcare plan covers this machine, I don't care what else they waste money on. | ||
| Ducbsa |
"We all knew" Yes, they did and lied time after time. Good video, ready for reasoned arguments from our defenders of the Obama Faith: http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2014/06/obam acare-delenda-est-2.php | ||
| Fredfast |
http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/eve-ruli ng-americans-oppose-birth-control-ban-n143796 | ||
| Hootowl |
Nice straw man. No one opposes birth control. What we oppose is a pill that prevents a fertilized egg (a genetically unique human being) from implanting itself on the uterine wall, thus preventing pregnancy, and ensuring the death of said human being. | ||
| Kenm123t |
Fredrica isn't happy unless there is death Common issue with collectivist ( pick your favorite lefty name here ) Our little troller hasn't the guts to face he light of truth. Never let evil go un spurned Feeling the weight of a heel on your scaly head ? | ||
| Blake |
Birth control ain't health care. Condoms are affordable. | ||
| Blake |
The Catholic Church opposes birth control. | ||
| Fredfast |
"The Catholic Church opposes birth control." Which is why you have thousands of children without parents crossing the border from Mexico. | ||
| Ducbsa |
They are crossing because the statists in Washington have stopped enforcing the border laws and the statists in the home countries are so corrupt and anti-freedom that their conditions are intolerable for "the people" while they pillage what wealth there is for themselves. The MSM and their fans habitually omit that the controversy includes forcing Americans to pay for abortion drugs. | ||
| Fredfast |
"The MSM and their fans habitually omit that the controversy includes forcing Americans to pay for abortion drugs." Abortion is NOT birth control. | ||
| Aesquire |
Hoot. I think you have the medical bit wrong. The Pill prevents the fertilized egg from finding a home. Abortificants trigger a period causing an already implanted fertilized egg to be flushed away. There is a difference. The Catholic church forbids artificial birth control for simple demographic reasons. I can understand being against abortion. If you also forbid birth control you lose the majority of folks support. The complaint that many have with obamadontcare is it makes birth control and abortion mandatory coverage. | ||
| Sifo |
"The Catholic Church opposes birth control." Which is why you have thousands of children without parents crossing the border from Mexico.  Not worth a response, but good for a laugh! | ||
| Ducbsa |
A sizable portion of Americans believe the mandated abortion drugs are abortion, not mere birth control. Religious liberty vs. the Statists who know what is best for you. http://cnsnews.com/news/article/sebelius-claims-no -abortifacient-drug-covered-contraception-mandate Rely on Sebelius for truth; HO HO! | ||
| Hootowl |
"Hoot. I think you have the medical bit wrong" I have it exactly correct. Plan B prevents the fertilized egg from implanting, thus preventing pregnancy. It still results in the death of a human being. This is the bit the left leaves out when they say it prevents pregnancy. | ||
| Aesquire |
All birth control either prevents the sperm and egg from getting together, or prevents implantation. The walls of the Uterus must be receptive to implantation, and that's the basis for the "Rhythm method" as well as "the pill". Eggs get fertilized all the time and fail to find a home to grow in. That is not abortion, it's natural. Those fertilized eggs have the potential to be a human being, but don't make it. Checking the "Plan-b" website, They say it does not force a period, so it's not an abortion pill. RU-486 otoh does exactly that, causes the body to lose the Uterine lining. Taking the fertilized egg implanted or not, with it. This may seem a picky point to some, but it's the difference between preventing a pregnancy, and ending one. The fact is you can use the same drugs to abort or prevent a pregnancy, depending on dosage and timing. The same thing is true of many drugs. Warfarin can be used to prevent a stroke or heart attack, or kill. It is, after all the active ingredient in rat poison. I'm well aware of it's potential since it nearly killed me. Turns out that like many drugs there is a genetic factor that makes it more or less effective. The dose that keeps a clot from killing you may make your wife bleed to death internally. Hormone based birth control has been around a while. It is not without it's controversy, but I much prefer it to abortion. You may draw the line somewhere else, I'm good with "didn't get pregnant". You may have issues with using birth control yourself, and that's your business. ( unless you are dating my daughter, in which case I may decide on very late term abortion for you  ) I can understand you not wanting to pay for other people's abortions. I can even understand you not wanting to pay for other people's birth control. Forbidding those not of your faith to practice birth control puts you in the same category as Obama, forcing your will on others and violating their rights to not have you force your faith upon them. | ||
| Hootowl |
"Eggs get fertilized all the time and fail to find a home to grow in. That is not abortion, it's natural" People die all the time of natural causes. Murder is still illegal. Unless you're still inside the uterus, I guess. | ||
| Sifo |
Forbidding those not of your faith to practice birth control puts you in the same category as Obama, forcing your will on others and violating their rights to not have you force your faith upon them. Keep in mind that your faith is your choice. Part of that choice is accepting the morality of the faith. Few religions these days have any real power to force you to do anything not of your choice. BO OTOH... | ||
| Xdigitalx |
Taking a pill to kill the fertilized egg or to prevent life from happening is not natural. | ||
| Sifo |
Death is a natural thing. Is it natural to force something that is natural? I have to admit that I see gray area on birth control and when it becomes abortion. Most abortion is far beyond that gray area though. Like it or not, it's taking a life. | ||
| Hootowl |
Birth control that prevents implantation is murder. Plain and simple, and a medical fact that a genetically unique human life is ended. IUDs, morning after pill, etc. fall into this category. Condoms, sponges, diaphragms, and spermicides are not because they (most of the time) prevent fertilization. I'm not against birth control. I'm against murder. | ||
| Hootowl |
"http://www.nationaljournal.com/health-care/ginsbur g-radical-hobby-lobby-ruling-may-create-havoc-2014 0630" As usual, the Liberal dissent is not based upon the merits of the case or the constitution, but rather a nebulous argument based upon nothing but their fears of what might happen if they vote the other way. | ||
| Sifo |
But in a blistering, 35-page dissent, Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, joined by Justice Sonia Sotomayor, lambasted the majority opinion—delivered by five male justices—as "a decision of startling breadth" that would allow corporations to "opt out of any law … they judge incompatible with their sincerely held religious beliefs." And this is why we have a first amendment that protects our religious beliefs. To protect us from lawmakers that want to legislate what we should believe. | ||
| Reepicheep |
Ginsburg's chickens have come home to roost. If a liberal activist supreme court hadn't created the right to murder unborn Americans to protect a "right to privacy", the case she is dissenting would never have existed in the first place. It was the courts fault that a woman's right to privacy now trumps a humans right to life. | ||
| Aesquire |
Hoot, don't agree. I draw the line at implantation into Uterine tissue. Feel free do disagree. ( as you of course do ) I agree with the Supreme Court decision, as it maximizes freedom. ( most basic test ) It has implications, some, like the morality of taxing you for anything you don't like, simply will not be fixed to anyone's satisfaction. So don't expect a sea change on that front. It's good in that Religious freedom is good. We'll see if that gets exploited by other groups, like Greenies or Islamics, for the exact purpose of forcing their laws upon you. ( the opposite of religious freedom ) And, at some points, toleration for other's religions can even be used against you. ( for example ) How happy are you if another's beliefs call for them to Eat Kittens? You going to protest that and call for a law? How about a Faith that gives Women Dominion Over Man. Makes him property to be horded, protected from view, less than human? | ||
| Sifo |
I agree with the Supreme Court decision, as it maximizes freedom. ( most basic test ) You're clearly not a lawyer. Or a politician. Or a despot. I do like your clarity on this though. As far as if you or Hoot are right about when life begins... I'm not completely decided. If Hoot is right, that's a lot more souls for Heaven. Hope they have room for me.  | ||
| Macbuell |
I have no problem with people making their own reproductive decisions. However, I do have a problem having to pay for those decisions. Or more to the point, I have a problem being forced to pay for something to fix someones mistake caused by their own lack of responsibility. The underlying issue that people need to think about is ... the more we move to a society that absolves people of individual accountability and places more responsibility on the government to prevent and fix all the issues that the lack of accountability creates, the closer we are to the true degradation of our society. Picture a future without personal accountability where everyone looks to the government to fix all of their mistakes. A future basically filled with a bunch of adolescents masquerading as adults. That is our future. |
