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     Rocket_in_uk |
I've a friend who owns and runs three pubs. They're award winning establishments. One, Hawkes, named after a gunsmith resident in the building 200 years past, sells nothing but ale. Another has a magnificent selection of spirits. The top shelf stuff is an endless choice of the worlds favourites. I didn't rate much the Japanese world championship winning Yamazaki whisky though! The third bar is a traditional pub in every sense. My friends (they're a couple) brew their own ales as well as sell a wide selection of house and guest beers and ciders, and some largers. Being Irish my friend sometimes is able to sell Guinness exactly as it's sold in Ireland which is what makes the difference in it tasting so much better over there than it does when sold and poured mainland Britain. Rocket in England | ||
| M2nc |
The last time I was in London, my brothers and I decided to stop in a pub for Guinness on draft. The bar maid heard our accents and said. "I presume you want that cold?" To which I responded, "Of course! I couldn't drink it otherwise. " | ||
| Rocket_in_uk |
"I presume you want that cold?" That's because here they serve 'Guinness' and 'Guinness Cold'. One is served at normal temp (whatever that is for Guinness), the other is served chilled. Some largers are treat similar. Carling. Carling Cold. Carling Extra Cold, for example. Guinness in Ireland has a different taste and texture. The Irish pump it with a different percentage of CO to UK mainland. When in Ireland it takes three stages to get it into the glass. Only two stages mainland UK. This is why when in Ireland if you're sat in a pub having a few, bar staff will always ask you if you're ready for another well in time before you have finished the one you're on. It takes a while to pour! Rocket in England | ||
| Alfau |
Nobody signs off anymore Tubby! Accept Dick Tracy! If there were ever a war, you would do no more than grow fatter. The world is evolving into inferior beings because they are killing off all the elite and leaving the fat and useless boofheads like you to rave on! | ||
| Aesquire |
Insults and eugenics. Alfau are you a progressive? I've always understood the logic of eugenics...... but the problem is "who decides?". | ||
| Rocket_in_uk |
Recent events.... http://rt.com/news/156964-sniper-killed-woman-slav yansk/ http://rt.com/news/156824-eastern-ukraine-hostilit ies-shooting/ http://rt.com/news/156928-nato-military-drills-est onia/ http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/05/04/ukraine-pm -blames-security-forces-for-not-stopping-odessa-vi olence-as-kiev/ http://my.firedoglake.com/fairleft/2014/05/02/at-l east-31-die-in-odessa-after-pro-regime-rioters-set -trade-union-building-ablaze/ http://rt.com/op-edge/156400-kiev-fighting-against -civilians-ukraine/ Rocket in England | ||
| Xdigitalx |
During the first months... they showed the news of the violence towards the people of Ukraine/Kiev... showing armed militias taking over buildings with police and gov people attacked, Kiev had to defend itself, then the Ukraine Gov started fighting back. Militias talked about how they rights were violated, (just talk) but show how the people take over the Kiev Gov. (easily because they are peace officers mostly, defending themselves not attacking) Then, the Kiev Gov fights back and now that they are gaining ground... the militias and RT show only news they want, showing how they are victims but not real reason why. This is why you had reporters held hostage. Does RT want to be the new CNN of the 80's?? It is an adolescent news agency. Putin is a duchebag. | ||
| Rocket_in_uk |
You're a bit short on facts and give a very basic summary of nothing. Here's a blog..... http://www.theweek.co.uk/world-news/ukraine/56357/ ukraine-dozens-more-killed-clashes-crisis-spreads- west Do try to keep up  Rocket in England | ||
| Xdigitalx |
Funny,... they say the "exact" same thing on FOX news too. | ||
| Rocket_in_uk |
You're a bit short on facts and give a very basic and misleading summary. One which I can't be arsed to point out where or why you're wrong, as the links already exist here which show a much clearer picture, you're either not reading or deliberately ignoring. Rocket in England | ||
| Rocket_in_uk |
The problem is xdigi is you come here and volunteer not much but your personal opinion without so much as posting any representation as to where you form such personal opinion. Why should anyone listen to you? Aside from the fact you're a prejudiced patriot of empire America with little interest other than playing to a similar crowd of like minded individuals who know next to sweet FA about Ukraine, including exactly where it is in the world until now. Rocket in England | ||
| Xdigitalx |
Yea, the Fox news is a tad softer... The Guardian seems more raw. The folks Russian folks in Ukraine should suk it up. It is Ukraine. Leave government buildings. Act like the police did when they release the 60 prisoners. That would help the situation don't you think? They have a vote coming up too. | ||
| Aesquire |
Hey! Ukraine is where Milla Jovovich & Mila Kunis come from! I know where that is. | ||
| Rocket_in_uk |
I've never heard of either of them, until I had an 'oh my god' moment on Google just now. Mila Kunis is the drop dead gorgeous looking chic in Forgetting Sarah Marshall. Patrick you are a man of great taste  Rocket in England | ||
| Aesquire |
Also winner of the 2014 MTV movie awards best villain. See "Oz the great & powerful". | ||
| Rocket_in_uk |
Yea, the Fox news is a tad softer... The Guardian seems more raw. The folks Russian folks in Ukraine should suk it up. It is Ukraine. Leave government buildings. Act like the police did when they release the 60 prisoners. That would help the situation don't you think? They have a vote coming up too. Best I can say is there has been a turning tide most recently in the press reporting here, but mostly to the point they offer (sometimes) what appears to be both sides of events. RT is very much one sided BUT there is one overriding factor in RT's reporting that makes much of it worthy news. RT investigate and expose some of the reports they broadcast, and do likewise with reports from other sources which they attempt to show as wrong, misleading, or similar. Some RT reports are hard to refute. Others, like the Nuland phone call, and the White House press releases over the so called Russian soldiers in Ukraine, are impossible to deny. This weekend they've broadcast footage of heavily armed persons inside and behind police lines in Odessa, as well as much evidence to support the attacks and killings were mainly the actions of Right Sector and other pro Ukraine fascist groups. It's hard to deny video footage of a person throwing Molotov cocktails at a burning building full of people. Some jumping to their deaths to avoid burning, whilst another person on the ground beats these same jumpers with a stick as if making sure they're dead if not already. Occupation of buildings is one of few ways these people seem to have a voice. They've protested on the streets, including camps, for months. I doubt they'll end their occupations until they're given a voice. Here's what Russian Foreign Minister Lavrov said this morning in Vienna at the Committee of Ministers of the European Council meeting, on this precise matter. http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/05/06/4100477/brit ain-russia-wants-to-disrupt.html You might also want to see other issues he mentions. http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/730680 Rocket in England | ||
| Cityxslicker |
Best I can do is provide intelligence and tactics to my friends and associates there. I will have to sneak into country some how - they are prattling around about killing tourist visas for Americans Maybe a walk across the border at Moldova F*ck I hate this. This stupid government with their g-d damn #hashtag diplomacy is going to get my friends in danger. Kiev may need a double flush, as you do not replace Pro Russian thieves with Pro Western thieves and think that there is change. | ||
| Rocket_in_uk |
Kiev may need a double flush, as you do not replace Pro Russian thieves with Pro Western thieves and think that there is change. Here's the problem..... Appearing at a joint White House press conference Friday with German Chancellor Angela Merkel, President Barack Obama voiced full backing for the bloody crackdown against pro-federalization protesters in eastern Ukraine, while ratcheting up US threats against Russia. Even as the scale of bloodletting by the Kiev regime’s troops and its fascist allies in the Right Sector was becoming clear, the American president issued an explicit endorsement of the government’s military attack on the pro-Russian population in the east and south of the country. Obama stated, “As Ukrainian forces move to restore order in eastern Ukraine, it is obvious to the world that these Russian-backed groups are not peaceful protesters.” He continued, insisting that “The Ukrainian government has the right and responsibility to uphold law and order within its territory.” The onus fell on Moscow, he claimed, “to use its influence with these paramilitary groups so that they disarm and stop provoking violence.” As Obama spoke, a fascist mob led by the neo-Nazi Right Sector was carrying out a massacre of pro-Russian demonstrators in Odessa, killing dozens. In the east of the country, fully armed troops and Right Sector thugs, backed by armor, artillery and helicopter gunships, attacked centers of the anti-Kiev protests in Slovyansk and other cities, setting the stage for a bloodbath. Yet Obama praised Kiev for its “remarkable restraint” and placed the full blame for the violence wracking the country on Russia. He made no call for the Ukrainian regime to disarm the fascist paramilitary groups such as the Right Sector that brought it to power and now comprise its shock troops for the assault on the east. Washington has given the order for this offensive, coming just days after the coup regime in Kiev declared itself “helpless” in the face of the eastern protests, particularly given Moscow’s warning against any use of armed force against Russian-speaking people of the region. According to Financial Times foreign affairs columnist Gideon Rachman: “The Ukrainian government’s hesitation up until now may also reflect the conflicting pressures the government is under from its Western allies. The German government in particular has been putting the Kiev authorities under intense pressure not to go on the offensive. This reflects both innate German caution and the fact that four of the OSCE hostages being held by separatists in Slovyansk are Germans. The Americans, by contrast, have been urging the Ukrainians to assert their authority in the east.” Friday’s Rose Garden press conference was meant to signal US-German unity in the face of the Ukraine crisis, but it was impossible to entirely paper over differences between the two imperialist powers. These emerged most explicitly over the US National Security Agency’s wholesale spying in Germany and internationally, which—as revealed by Edward Snowden—extended to the cell phone of the German chancellor and the communications of officials at every level of the German government. Obama claimed Washington had taken significant measures to allay European concerns, while insisting on its need to spy on all of its supposed allies. Merkel, who stressed US-German unity in the “war on terror,” discreetly allowed that there remained a “difference of opinion” on surveillance policies and there could be no return to “business as usual.” While the two heads of state claimed agreement on imposing additional, more punishing “sectoral sanctions” targeting Russian industry unless the government of Vladimir Putin bows to Western demands, neither spelled out the specifics of such measures, and there was a significant difference in the tone each adopted. Merkel, expressing the interests of German big business, which reaps substantial profits off of its investment and trade with Russia, insisted that her government did not want stiffer sanctions, though it was prepared to impose them, and preferred a diplomatic solution. Obama voiced no such qualms. He expressed the determination to “impose costs on Russia” and declared Washington’s “unwavering Article 5 commitment” under the NATO alliance to defend any member state coming under military attack. This invocation came as the Pentagon continued to stage provocative deployments of US paratroopers in the former Soviet Baltic republics and Poland. What are Washington’s aims? It would appear that the US has decided to deliberately escalate tensions with the aim of drawing Russia into an invasion of eastern Ukraine, thereby creating the conditions for roping Western Europe into draconian sanctions and even war. This strategy underlies the lies and distortions employed by the American president in an attempt to indict Russia as the source of violence in Ukraine. He denounced Putin for thinking that he had the “right to violate the sovereignty of another country, to violate its territorial integrity,” a privilege that Washington reserves for itself, invading, attacking and overthrowing governments from Afghanistan to Iraq, Libya, Syria and beyond. Casting himself as the champion of Ukrainian independence and freedom, Obama insisted that “Ukrainians should be able to make their own decisions.” He denounced the position, which he attributed to Russia that “the Kremlin has veto power over decisions made by a duly elected government in Kiev.” The only problem here, of course, is that the “duly elected government in Kiev” was overthrown last February in a US-orchestrated, fascist-led coup that installed an unelected ultra-nationalist government in which neo-Nazis from the Right Sector and the Svoboda party hold prominent positions. In orchestrating the February 22 putsch that overthrew President Viktor Yanukovych, Washington and Berlin exercised their own veto over the legally constituted government’s decision to align itself more closely with Russia rather than with the European Union. In the press conference, Obama ridiculed “Russian propaganda” for “suggestions or implications that somehow Americans are responsible for meddling in Ukraine.” He continued, “Our only interest is for Ukraine to be able to make its own decisions and the last thing we want is disorder and chaos in the center of Europe.” Does Obama believe that everyone in the world is an idiot? US officials have boasted about American “meddling,” including his “point person” on Ukraine, Undersecretary of State Victoria Nuland, who has bragged repeatedly about Washington pouring $5 billion into the country to install precisely the kind of regime it brought to power in February. The same Nuland was recorded last fall in the infamous “•••• the EU” taped phone conversation advising the US ambassador as to who among the Ukrainian opposition leaders should head a new government, dubbing “Yats,” her pet name for Arseniy Yatsenyuk, as its leader. Once the smoke had cleared from the mayhem in Kiev’s Maidan square, it was indeed “Yats” who was proclaimed prime minister. It should be recalled that in the run-up to the coup, Washington was insisting that Yanukovych had to step down because he had dared to use force against the protesters who had erected barricades in the center of Kiev and seized government buildings. Secretary of State John Kerry declared his “disgust” over the government’s decision to “meet the peaceful protest … with riot police, bulldozers and batons, rather than with respect for democratic rights and human dignity.” Now the US-backed regime brought to power through armed violence is suppressing protesters who have seized government buildings, employing not bulldozers and batons, but tanks, helicopter gunships and automatic weapons. Washington is fully supporting, and by all appearances directing, the operation. Seldom has the hypocrisy of US imperialist policy been exposed so nakedly and in such short order. Precisely such a scenario has been repeatedly invoked by Washington as a justification for military intervention in countries thousands of miles from US shores. This includes Libya in February 2011, when Gaddafi’s dispatch of military units to secure the rebellious province of Benghazi and subdue its armed protesters was seized upon as the pretext for launching a US-NATO war to topple his regime. Now the Obama administration is directing, in the name of “democracy” and “human rights,” a military crackdown against anti-Kiev regime rebels in eastern Ukraine. It feels no need to explain the howling contradictions in its propaganda narrative because it has complete contempt for the democratic will of the American people, who are overwhelmingly opposed to US military provocations against Russia, and because it knows that the corporate-controlled media will continue to function as a state propaganda organ and raise no embarrassing questions. It appears that the US is intent on drawing Putin into an intervention in Ukraine, a former Soviet republic on Russia’s border, to protect pro-Russian protesters against the violence of the state. This will then be used by Washington to justify an escalation of economic warfare and military deployments against Russia, potentially igniting a nuclear Third World War. Rocket in England | ||
| Aesquire |
Michael Savage radio pundit claims Obama is starting a war with Russia to cover up his involvement in a gun running op in Benghazi. ( gun running op revealed by NYT ) Multiple high ranking officers have been relieved of duty in the course of the Benghazi attack and cover up. See also Monica's War. Right wing ( actually centrist ) pundits fear Obama may use a manufactured crisis as an excuse to remain in power illegally. People who pay attention point out he already has. | ||
| Aesquire |
Russian propaganda is using high level buzzwords ( nazi, right sector etc. ) to report events and players. Not saying the reports are false. That I don't know. I AM saying the phrasing and techniques are classic Soviet era propaganda. Ancient history shows us that stuff tends to be lies to excuse imperialist aggression. Ancient history in this case is the 20th century. George Soros? | ||
| Aesquire |
How many Russians in Mayfair? Liverpool? Putin has an obligation to protect them from the brutal attacks. ( you just haven't heard of them yet.......... next year? Maybe? ) Just waiting for Kerry to wave a piece of paper declaring "Peace in our time"........... then I believe the tradition involves German troop movements.  | ||
| Rick_a |
Soviet propaganda and meddling, lying US president? All sounds right to me. The truth is somewhere in there, and as always, somewhere in between. | ||
| Aesquire |
I think we can take "f... the EU" as a policy statement. It's consistent with Obama's biographies. "Wag the dog" is supposed to be a fake war. Did this administration actually watch it? Not supposed to really start a real one. Crap could they be THAT incompetent?? | ||
| Blake |
The Nobel Peace Prize is a complete and utter joke. | ||
| Aesquire |
Metaphor? | ||
| Rocket_in_uk |
Russian propaganda is using high level buzzwords ( nazi, right sector etc. ) to report events and players. Not saying the reports are false. That I don't know. I AM saying the phrasing and techniques are classic Soviet era propaganda. Except RT has shown many reports where Svoboda and Right Sector members are seen with guns, firing guns, with cocktails, throwing cocktails, beating people with sticks and bars. Killing people. They're seen mingling amongst Ukraine police and military. The footage is without question real. And the current administration has appointed members of these groups amongst their security forces. These are all reported facts with many links in this topic already. Why keep stating this is propaganda. The western press are reporting much of this stuff now also. Rocket in England | ||
| Rocket_in_uk |
Putin makes a move. http://rt.com/news/157404-putin-ukraine-crisis-kie v/ Rocket in England | ||
| Cityxslicker |
My Friends in Poltava recommend not watching the news - it is all lies - no matter what horses ass it comes out of - the filth of shit is not changed by the direction of wind it is received. Locked, Loaded, ready to shoot. I got a note from Miki - her and her sisters are outside Donetsk - armed. Basically - if it isn't your family, your kin, your townsfolk - kill them; and find out who they were later. This country has been invaded by the Nazi's and it has been Crushed by Communists - it is not about to bend over for either of them again lightly. (most of Russia's armament is built in factories in the Ukraine, Ak's - helicopters, fighter aircraft, APCs, and yes, Military Motorcycles) They all seem to be set for the 'Go' on the 9th and 10th for 'Victory' Day. It will be a very long weekend PS - Putin has not moved Tank, APC nor Helio one. His 'stand-down' is purely verbal. | ||
| Rocket_in_uk |
Putin claims he has pulled his troops back to their usual locations. They are no longer sat on the border. I'm sure observers would confirm this either way. What is your source Slick? News filtering through, peoples councils in Donetsk and Sloviansk say they will go ahead with autonomy vote on the 11th despite Putin urging otherwise. The outcome will not be recognised by the west, but it will show when the vote is in how detached from Kiev eastern Ukraine is. As for Victory Day. RT is showing much footage of nationalist preventing anyone, including WW2 vets, showing any kind of respect for their victory (over the Nazi's). Rocket in England | ||
| Cataract2 |
Rocket, he doesn't have a source nor does he know anyone in the Ukraine just like he can't speak Russian. He lies so often I doubt he knows what the truth is anymore. |
