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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, April 15, 2014 - 10:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Casual marijuana use may come with some not-so-casual side effects.

For the first time, researchers at Northwestern University have analyzed the relationship between casual use of marijuana and brain changes – and found that young adults who used cannabis just once or twice a week showed significant abnormalities in two important brain structures.
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http://tinyurl.com/np8wkd3
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 - 06:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I question the accurscy of the thing with the head stuff and....oh look shiny!
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Spiderman
Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 - 07:59 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And no resource links to back up their story

"That’s right, the study reached these conclusions using a ridiculously small sample size. A survey size that small is statistically meaningless. This is not science."
http://politicalblindspot.com/fox-new-cites-bunk-s tudy-to-promote-refer-madness-pseudoscience/


This just in, alcohol use can cause liver damage, smoking can cause cancer, and living leads to death...
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 - 08:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Never done a drug in my life, against them, but I dont see how this can be viewed as a legitimate survey/study. And there have been many people who smoked weed and were still smart etc
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Xdigitalx
Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 - 08:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hilarious quote of the day: "And there have been many people who smoked weed and were still smart etc". I almost spit up my coffee on my keyboard...

I used to smoke weed, I used/approached it like any other drug... for recreational use only.. like fri night or at a big party... nothing more than that. When I grew out of that... it stopped. BUT... having had cancer and having broken bones and other aches and pains I just may retire in a pot free Marijuana-Legal zone.

However, In the mean time, I might not forfeit from accepting an invitation to share a joint.... it just depends on what she looks like.

(Message edited by xdigitalx on April 16, 2014)
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Pwnzor
Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 - 09:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I believe it has been common knowledge for quite a long time that when you introduce intoxicants into the bloodstream of an organism while it's brain is still developing, it will have some type of negative effect.
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 - 10:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And no resource links to back up their story

Dr. Hans Breiter at Northwestern University being published in Journal of Neuroscience today. That seems like a pretty specific citing of the source. Not sure what the issue is.

That’s right, the study reached these conclusions using a ridiculously small sample size. A survey size that small is statistically meaningless. This is not science.

A small group isn't that big of a deal when the results are so markedly different from the control group. If you feed 20 people arsenic and 20 people a placebo, then the 20 who took the arsenic die, but the 20 who took the placebo live, can you not figure out that arsenic can be lethal? If one or two of the subjects in this test showed abnormalities, the results would be questionable. Sounds like that isn't the case though. I would say that a larger study would be needed to get exact probabilities for the exact amount of abnormality, but a small size is sufficient to show a clear relationship.

And there have been many people who smoked weed and were still smart etc

And many who weren't. Other studies have already shown decreased IQ in pot smokers though.

I really don't care what you do as long as it isn't intruding on my life. I did feel that some might like to be informed though. Some will go the route of willful ignorance.
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Spiderman
Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 - 02:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes arsenic testing and pot use are acceptable comparisons, glad you were able to lighten my ignorance with a beautiful apples to apples comparison!
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Crusty
Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 - 03:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That's funny; I read a study that stated that former Liberals who joined the Tea Party all had brain damage, and a marked loss of I.Q. I think it's about as valid as the pot study.
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Spiderman
Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 - 04:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

and Crusty wins the interwebs for the next 23 and 1/2 hours!
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Elsinore74
Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 - 04:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Dr. Breiter indicated a long-term study should be conducted. Wonder if he'll have trouble finding volunteers?
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Xdigitalx
Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 - 05:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think they should get paid.
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 - 05:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This may have been part of that experiment . . .


quote:

A Wu-Tang Clan-affiliated rapper sliced off his own penis and jumped off a second-floor balcony in an apparent suicide bid early Wednesday, cops in Southern California said.


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Jayvee
Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 - 05:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That doesn't seem like pot-induced kind of activity, maybe PCP or meth or something else.
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 - 06:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sounds more like the old CIA LSD experiments.

Darwin. ( my first attempt at this sentence was funnier and mean hearted. So you just run with "Darwin" and pretend I meant it sad & respectful. Thank You. )

I wonder if the study corrected for ADD medication use?
If you want to pick a drug family to fry brains that would be my first guess.

Far too many times a "study" is simply ( complexly ?) the prelude to a push for legislation. Always by a special interest group out to make more money. Example. Insurance companies and helmet laws...... and the studies and headlines that are the pretext to "do something" about the suddenly well known "crisis".
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Ljm
Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 - 06:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I can tell you having done nearly 1000 evaluations of cognitive functioning over the last few years that this study only affirms what us in the field know. Smoking pot affects memory. It is unequivocal. It is so clear in the data that I can tell you whether someone is a smoker based on comparison of their various cognitive functions from across the room blind to history.
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Cataract2
Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 - 07:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Cityxslicker
Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 - 08:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The generation that brought you the ACA and Common Core - is the exact same generation of pot heads and libs from the 60's that said trust no-one over 35....
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Cataract2
Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 - 09:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Thumper1203
Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 - 10:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"The generation that brought you the ACA and Common Core - is the exact same generation of pot heads and libs from the 60's that said trust no-one over 35...."

Good one Brian.. I must admit
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S2t_bama
Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 - 10:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm sorry. That is too funny. The person who seems to have first hand quantitative data provided a well written perspective. The person who apparently disagrees with the notion that pot screws up the mind posts memes.
Case made.
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Strokizator
Posted on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 - 10:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Obama admits to smoking pot and using other drugs "enthusiastically" in his youth and look at him. It's not like he's an idiot or something like that.

From my perspective, it's probably not good for you in the long run.
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Fast1075
Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2014 - 10:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2014 - 10:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes arsenic testing and pot use are acceptable comparisons, glad you were able to lighten my ignorance with a beautiful apples to apples comparison!

Perhaps brain damage has prevented you from grasping that the comparison was about the method of study being used. You know, that whole scientific method thingy that was discusses while you were stoned in school.

It's not like he's an idiot or something like that.

Have you heard him speak without his teleprompter?
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Reindog
Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2014 - 10:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Uhhh....what are we talkin' about? I'm famished.
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Fast1075
Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2014 - 11:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Duuuuuuuuuuuude!!!
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2014 - 11:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Fast1075
Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2014 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuude!!! Like wait, uh nevermind. Like Spicoli ROCKS man! Huh?
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Spiderman
Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2014 - 01:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Perhaps brain damage has prevented you from grasping that the comparison was about the method of study being used. You know, that whole scientific method thingy that was discusses while you were stoned in school.

I can't even get mad your ignorance bounds from your own words...
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Spiderman
Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2014 - 01:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

and to add, the person who believes in creationism dare to site the scientific method is an insult to the scientific community.
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