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     Fredfast |
"Or drink whiskey, shoot heroin, or snort cocaine. It seems that while skipping your anti-psychotic meds, or anti-depresent meds, or on hypnotic sleep aids, you have an increased risk of violent behavior too. And the recent shootings ( the mass murder suicide types ) show that being an Obama supporter is an unacceptable risk factor as well. Embracing hatred as fed you by evil men has been shown to create a callous attitude towards others. There is a common factor in these murder/suicides in that the killer doesn't really see others as humans like himself, but objects in a world he's passing through. That's unfair to Obama, just because he preaches hate to gain his political ends, well.... he's not the first, just the most powerful, recently, here. It's a much fairer statement that leftists, or shall I say those who embrace the collectivist, anti-individual rights and life philosophy, moral relativism, are far more likely to murder others. While there is a difference between a sociopath because of chemical imbalance in the brain, and one created by propaganda, I wonder if there is, in the end, a real difference. Attitude can change the brain chemicals just as much as a drug, or a genetic defect. It's be interesting to monitor the brains of, say, the ladies on "The View" when they have a guest with their own "sensibilities" vs. when their guest is, say, a Sarah Palin fan. I'd be willing to bet that under some circumstances they show the same signs of killing rage and callous indifference to human life that the Newtown CT. shooter had. Just be an interesting experiment. However, not going to happen, ( they are rich and protected by armed guards, while calling for YOU to be disarmed, you peasant ) so perhaps a "regular" Obama supporter before, during and after an Obama rally? After some thought, the pot smoker has an increased chance of a negligent discharge, ( under the influence vs. sober ) but I bet a lower chance of intentional murder while under the influence than beer drinkers. By about 10,000%. ( I could be off on that last figure... ) I'm still waiting to hear about the many high speed 10 mph chases in Colorado." The definition of conjecture. | ||
| Court |
I just simply do not believe the leftist gun control advocates. There behavior conflicts with their dialogue. http://www.nytimes.com/1988/09/27/us/trial-opens-f or-rowan-in-shooting-of-trespasser.html | ||
| Aesquire |
So you agree completely? again, you fail to get your point across.. Perhaps you object to me telling the truth about how most mass murderers for the last century have been leftist/socialist types? The only real questionable comment in my post, which for some reason you cut & paste entirely, ( making it hard to tell what you agree with) is the assertion that the pot smokers are a made up number less likely to shoot you than a booze drinker. I don't know that that number is. It's pretty obviously large. This doesn't count the Drug Dealers and their turf wars. That's the #1 cause of shootings in this area. That's far more a condemnation of drug policy than gun laws, since all the weapons are illegal. ( as are the drugs ) For the same reason, I don't count the wars of aggression by the leftists as murder. Greed and territorial ambition are not related to ideology. The ideology murders hundreds of millions. Directly. In the 20th century alone. | ||
| Fredfast |
"And the recent shootings ( the mass murder suicide types ) show that being an Obama supporter is an unacceptable risk factor as well." Not only conjecture, but crazy. "Embracing hatred as fed you by evil men has been shown to create a callous attitude towards others." Maybe true but should be applied universally. "There is a common factor in these murder/suicides in that the killer doesn't really see others as humans like himself, but objects in a world he's passing through." Humans are objects. "Attitude can change the brain chemicals just as much as a drug, or a genetic defect." Brain chemicals develop attitude not the opposite. "I'd be willing to bet that under some circumstances they show the same signs of killing rage and callous indifference to human life that the Newtown CT. shooter had." I'm guessing (like you) that the Newtown shooter had no political viewpoint except the right to own assault weapons. | ||
| Aesquire |
How many of the mass murders in the last 6 years were by D's? Look it up. How many by Obama supporters? ( look it up more than 1 ) How many hard core Sarah Palin fans? Maybe true but should be applied universally. ??? Thought I was. I did specify that Obama wasn't the first, or only evil bastard on the planet. Humans are objects. Stupid argument. Humans are not JUST Objects. If a person is the same as a chair, why not destroy it? That's the difference. Can YOU tell? Brain chemicals develop attitude not the opposite. You are in error here. I'll grant you ignorance on this one. Your mood changes your brain chemicals. and vice versa. Fairly recent medicine. I'm guessing (like you) that the Newtown shooter had no political viewpoint except the right to own assault weapons. Lanza's political views, I don't know. The comment ( a speculation ) was that the ladies of the View would have the same crazy brain chemistry as he when in their feeding frenzy rage state with a conservative guest. Besides, there is no such thing as an Assault Weapon. That's a made up scary name. Propaganda. | ||
| Sifo |
Let's see if gun laws only apply to certain classes of people: http://www.buffalonews.com/city-region/buffalo-pub lic-schools/associates-defend-man-who-had-gun-in-s chool-20140207 It is a laugher to see the progs contort themselves to excuse this clown. The comments are very good. David Gregory has shown it to be the case that certain people are not affected by the laws they advocate. I wonder if anyone will rethink this sort of law in light of this? I wonder if he will rethink it? It's clear to me that this guy had no bad intentions, yet is charged with, and should be found guilty of a felony. The problem is that the SAFE Act did exactly zip to prevent a gun from coming into the school. The only thing that prevented a mass shooting was the intent of the gun carrier. Somehow, I'm pretty sure that these folks who do the mass shootings, that end with them shooting themselves last, aren't very concerned with the fact that they are committing a felony. On top of the mass murder they are doing. I kind of hope that some judge decides to make an example of this guy and throw the book at him. | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic= 1856 For Fredfast. | ||
| Ducbsa |
Good review: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedd ed&v=FeTCkoXslsE | ||
| Fredfast |
"http://www.questionablecontent.net/view.php?comic= 1856 For Fredfast." The guy is a chauvinist (probably conservative) due to a chemical imbalance causing blood to rush to his extremities. That might make the coffee taste better. | ||
| Aesquire |
...causing blood to rush to his extremities. Prevents frostbite. Some thing you really don't want to turn black and fall off. Dusca, thanks. Proves my point. Obama supporters are dangerous... in so many ways. | ||
| Sifo |
I ran across some videos explaining how someone carrying a concealed weapon is fooling themselves. Interesting videos, even if very one sided. They make some worthwhile points, but it's still incredibly one sided. First their scenario of sitting in a classroom when a gunman bursts in is pretty good. I notice that every time though, the test subject is in the same seat and is the second person the gunman focuses on every time. Yeah, you will probably die in that scenario. Just having the test subject randomly placed in the room would change the odds quite dramatically. Also keep in mind that these subjects have just gone through training, but have not had any practice time at all. A person may never practice, but no one recommends that. A cop involved in a shootout on his first day is going to be far more likely to make mistakes than a seasoned cop too. That shouldn't be surprising. Then they have them wearing gloves in the test. Not even their own gloves. Still, gloves could be a real situation, so OK. They have also just put on a helmet. Good for the safety of the test subjects, but certainly will add to disorientation when action is required. At one point they actually suggest carrying a phone instead of a gun. I'm pretty sure that if you have a gunman coming at you like that, and you use your phone to call for help, you will be toast. It would have been interesting for the gunman to have to just identify the person who is carrying randomly, rather than knowing what seat he/she will be in. One thing that the piece does get right though, training and practice make you much more effective. Part one and part two | ||
| Blake |
Yellow journalism propaganda aiming to subvert our unalienable rights. Never thought I'd see the day in America. This is looking to become very very bad. | ||
| Blake |
Certainly appreciate the point concerning training though. | ||
| Blake |
It just struck me that the ABC anti-concealed carry hit piece is a VERY good argument for open carry. http://youtu.be/Hy6BmNLZl7c Put this young lady in the front row, open carry. Sail? | ||
| Sifo |
The ABC piece does raise some worthwhile points. Their cell phone point was close to useless. OTOH, knowing that taking a place of concealment/cover should be a priority is worthwhile. I would hope that would be covered in a CC class. That will hopefully buy time to get the weapon out, even from less than ideal carry methods. These were also rank amateurs being shot at by trained professionals. To say that the deck was stacked against them is a bit of an understatement IMO. Still it's entirely possible that you will find yourself in a no win situation. I'm not at all convinced that having a weapon will make that worse. Even with a weapon, you may choose to not draw and simply retreat. One problem with gun training is that it teaches you to go to the gun. It's like the old saying, when all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail. To me, the gun should be close to the last option. That sort of training would be a great thing though. I would like to see one of the trainees as the shooter, and the carry person to be in an unknown position to the shooter. I think that would likely be closer to a real world scenario and would likely change the outcome. Add some training about concealment/cover and the odds will change considerably. These students weren't even familiar with the guns they were using. | ||
| Blake |
Having to wear gloves, a helmet, and a tube sock for a shirt made normal defensive reaction impossible. And did you see where that first guy was wearing the holster? He's lucky he didn't shoot his own package so to speak. I just did some experimenting with a shot timer app on the iPhone. From a sitting position with start signal set to random, 1.5 to 2.1 seconds. But I wasn't wearing a helmet, gloves or a tube sock for a shirt, just normal clothing. I don't recall hearing much about someone with a gun being the victim of a mass shooting. I only remember hearing about the folks with guns who were able to stop the bad guys. Is the quick draw scenario really that likely? Not from any of the evidence I've seen. If it is, then seek cover before facing the threat. People who compete in confrontational sports such as basketball or football or hockey or the like where split second decisions must be made probably have an advantage. Heck, even racquetball. Bulletproof vests are darn near trivially cumbersome these days. | ||
| Blake |
http://www.ar500armor.com/ar500-armor-body-armor/s oft-body-armor.html http://www.safeguardclothing.com/coolmax-body-armo r-carriers/coolmax-iiia-bullet-proof-vest/ No good against a rifle, but effective against most any handgun. | ||
| Ducbsa |
Is Cityslicker an optimist? http://mediatrackers.org/ohio/2014/02/10/ohio-nati onal-guard-training-envisions-right-wing-terrorism | ||
| Blake |
I saw that via wwww.DrudgeReort.com. Outrageous. People need to be fired. | ||
| Sifo |
This is actually encouraging. While it's hard to have exact numbers on this, it looks like somewhere around 85% of gun owners are giving the big FU to Connecticut's gun registration program. http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2014/02/13/tens-of -thousands-of-connecticut-gun-owners-may-be-stagin g-a-massive-act-of-civil-disobedience/ | ||
| Aesquire |
A. No such animal as an assault weapon. Period. B. Although I gave away all my guns 2 years ago for xmas, no one I know has registered their legally owned weapons as imaginary animals. No one. Message smuggled out of The Imperium of New York | ||
| Oldog |
This was a disturbing find.... http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/02/13/ohio-na tional-guard-drill-villain-was-school-janitor-and- second-amendment/ | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
The sad thing about the CT thing is that it's a felony! So if you go to a range with your babby killing rifle, someone could run your name and see if you're "allowed" to have it. More and more, I feel like I just don't belong in the northeast. NY, CT and my own state are just filled to overflowing with people that "know what's best for us". This chunk of commie propaganda has been festooning the same wall since the mid 90's: http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/12/14/pike-b illboard-now-tracks-those-killed-guns-since-newtow n-massacre/7z3vCyWBW00zvbidTpSqxJ/story.html They change it every so often and there are seldom any actual facts involved. I like how everyone started another push for AR15 banning, citing sandy hook. No one seems to like mentioning that the idiot used PISTOLS. They're not even trying to make sense anymore because no one THINKS anymore. Oops. started ranting again. | ||
| Sifo |
Although I gave away all my guns 2 years ago for xmas You gave all yours away? I wish I had done that before losing them all in a bizarre boating accident. Now they're just GONE! This was a disturbing find.... Yep, supporting the Constitution = Terrorism. It's the new reality. | ||
| Aesquire |
Shame about the boating accident.  Been a lot of that going around in some states. Could be worse. See the England flood thread. I occasionally like to remind folk about the Anthrax terrorist attack. Just because the intended target was missed people don't think it was serious. People died. The murderer was never caught. | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.pjtv.com/?cmd=mpg&load=9392&mpid=86 'Negroes and the Gun: The Black Tradition of Arms' author interview. The history of gun control in the US is the history of the oppression of the slaves, former slaves, and their descendants. The first gun control laws were aimed at the Negro. No tyrant wants his subjects to be armed. bonus quiz. http://www.stentorian.com/2ndamend/fascism.html | ||
| Blake |
Surprise!... http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/02/13 /BREAKING-Ninth-Circuit-Strikes-Down-CA-Law-Restri cting-Concealed-Carry Saw a portion of a reality show, North Woods Law, which follows game wardens in Maine. Maine apparently has an anti-poaching law that appears to be blatantly unconstitutional. According to the game wardens in there, it's illegal to have a loaded firearm in your vehicle in the state of Maine. Interesting show though. | ||
| Teeps |
Blake Posted on Friday, February 14, 2014 - Surprise!... http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2014/02/13 /BREAKING-Ninth-Circuit-Strikes-Down-CA-Law-Restri cting-Concealed-Carry I felt a chill on the ground; then I read this article. I am truly amazed, and coming from 9th U.S. Circuit Court! So, I forwarded the article to my B'ro in law, this was his take and reason why: "Looks like they got lucky and drew a conservative panel -- O'Scannlain is a true originalist headqaurtered in Portland where he is legendary. Not surprising that he wrote the opinion. I can't find out who the 2nd judge in the majority was -- I'm guessing it was Bybee who is probably the only other conservative on the 9th circuit....." Surprised is an understatement. So I asked him about how the panels are selected and whether the opinion would stand; this was his answer: "There are about 30-some judges on the 9th circuit and they are randomly assigned to 3-judge panels for each case. A panel will hear cases for a certain period of time and then be reshuffled. I'm sure the city will appeal, and their first step will be to request a reconsideration by the entire court. If they are successful, all 30-some judges will decide whether to overturn the 3-judge panel and that outcome is pretty predictable. However, if that decision eventually goes to the SC there's a good chance they will affirm the 3-judge panel given how they have been deciding 2nd amendment cases lately....." (Message edited by teeps on February 14, 2014) | ||
| Ducbsa |
More distortions by the gun grabbers: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/02/17/bloomber g-latest-stats-on-school-gun-violence-ignore-reali ty/ | ||
| Aesquire |
http://pjmedia.com/michaelwalsh/2014/02/17/the-blu e-steel-right-to-life-liberty-and-the-pursuit-of-h appiness/?singlepage=true "The Blue Steel Right to Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness" |
