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     Court |
>>>>It is a working act to be modified to best suit the needs of the people. Hahahahaha . . . . pretty much what I told the Trooper when I was pulled over going 5 mph over the speed limit on a lonely stretch of Nevada highway. You . . .my friend . . . are so clueless that you may be a danger to yourself. Obamacare (a name publicly chosen and proclaimed by the idiot in charge) won't be with us in 36 months. What we will have are some very wealthy insurance folks . . . the largest government bailout in our wake . . .and we'll finally get around to the business of fixing some of the real problems with health care. Simply giving free stuff to folks under the "bama gonna give me free gas" doctrine . . .is as ludicrous as it's playing out. | ||
| Fredfast |
" . . pretty much what I told the Trooper when I was pulled over going 5 mph over the speed limit on a lonely stretch of Nevada highway. " You ought to slow down and smell the roses. Speeding may cause you to be a "danger to yourself". Does that mean you are also "clueless"? | ||
| Hootowl |
"Joe McCarthy died in 1957. And so did his BS" Ah, that old chestnut. Your ignorance is showing. When the Soviet Union fell and the KGB opened up the books, we learned that McCarthy was right all along.  | ||
| Fredfast |
"Ah, that old chestnut. Your ignorance is showing. When the Soviet Union fell and the KGB opened up the books, we learned that McCarthy was right all along" This disease is endemic. | ||
| Hootowl |
Hiding from facts will not change them, despite your assertion that we all make up our own truth. How very lefty of you. | ||
| Brumbear |
Well because of OBAMA care my health ins which renews in May could be and has been quoted to be raised from 1175 per month to 2568 which means I won't have ins.I make to much to get help, but us in NY and NJ have way higher costs of living compared to many other states so of course we show more income. Take a family in say Staten Island a guy making $65,000 a year his property taxes will average 12K a year that's 250 a week for the right to pay his mortgage. The car ins is higher because of where he lives fuel is ok but just as expensive as anywhere else. Food is extremely expensive in the North East and unless you work on your block it's gonna cost you a few quid a month in tolls like several hundred. Take a guy in say Canton Ohio who is making the same and his $65K goes a hell of a lot further than the SI guy and add to the fact that they could own the same house in size and amenities and the SI guy spent 475K for it while the Canton guy spent 220K. How about they do a little more homework before they try to cram something down our throats. I admit the system is way broken but Obamacare is a shytstorm plain and simple. | ||
| Fredfast |
"How very lefty of you." I belong to no political party. I espouse no political doctrine. I don't like politics or politicians. The legislative branch of government should be filled with ironworkers, plumbers, autoworkers, etc., not millionaires. Ignorant people need to label otherwise they get confused. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
"We are already sure and will culminate - establishing a new historic milestone as the gold seal of this period in the life, within its this moment,a brilliant period in our time, in which our leaders take up the call- headed by a Responsible Commander that leads, firmly standing by the principles and applying them with flexibility, has continued and firmly maintaining its course, upholding, defending and applying the path of our truth." Who said it ? A)Lenin B) Stalin C) Mao D) Guevara E) Pol-Pot F) Gonzalo G) Obama..... choose wisely | ||
| Hootowl |
"I belong to no political party." "Lefty" isn't a political party, so I'm not sure what point you're trying to make. "I espouse no political doctrine." You absolutely do. With every post you reveal your leftist tendencies. And before your head explodes, political doctrine and political party are not the same thing. | ||
| Reindog |
Christians love you, {[fred frank],fast}. | ||
| Reindog |
Yeah, Obamacare is working real good. When my company encounters this kind of spaghetti code, whether it is hardware, firmware, or software, the people responsible are fired. However, my company is a leader in the industry and this kind of gross incompetence is discovered early and corrective action taken long before a product can make it to the marketplace. Obamacare is spaghetti code and pure crap. It is not suffering a "glitch". It is destructive and harmful.  (Message edited by reindog on February 13, 2014) | ||
| Sifo |
Things aren't looking to good for enrollments. Obamacare Enrollment Rate Slows Markedly In January
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| Reindog |
If Obamacare is such a friggin' success, why does this criminal Administration continually withhold data and refuse to answer questions that the American taxpayer is entitled to because WE paid for it? All the way from Obama down to Sebelius, all we hear are lies and half truths at best. What is the dictator and his cronies afraid of? Are health insurers a good stock market opportunity? If not now, will they be during the upcoming, Obamacare mandated Federal Government bailout? I am always looking for opportunities for my money to earn money. I wish to follow my passions the old fashioned, American way unlike the looters and moochers that the Democrats are spawning. That is, study hard, work hard, and then make my money work hard. For that, I am a class enemy of the crime syndicate in Washington. | ||
| Fredfast |
"You absolutely do. With every post you reveal your leftist tendencies." I used to throw a baseball with my right hand. And I was pretty damn good. Does that make me a righty? Lefty, Righty - What does that mean? The connotations that they imply in your brain are keeping you from being objective. You've lost your sight. You're a victim of propaganda and simply a tool for those who wish to use you. Think independently for once in your life. Or are you too comfortable agreeing with everyone on this thread? There used to be a license plate that read "No Club - Lone Wolf". Anyone no where I can find one for a motorcycle? | ||
| Court |
>>>I used to throw a baseball with my right hand. And I was pretty damn good. Does that make me a righty? Cute The same way obama answers questions. | ||
| Sifo |
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| Sifo |
I wonder what the loons will be screaming when the next President simply says he's putting off implementation for another 100 years? | ||
| Strokizator |
The legislative branch of government should be filled with ironworkers, plumbers, autoworkers, etc., In other words, labor unions. Pretty sure they have all the representation they paid for. | ||
| Fredfast |
"In other words, labor unions. Pretty sure they have all the representation they paid for." And who paid for the others? "Money doesn't talk, it swears". | ||
| Court |
>>>Money doesn't talk, it swears". So . . . . the idea of "redistributing" it borders on sinful. Your mind is like a friction' golf ball tossed into a concrete drainage ditch at the speed of sound. Let's step back . . . ignore those you worship for a moment. Have you the slightest clue what YOU believe? Gotta say . . . this reminds me of when I was young . . . we could tell Raymond Nelson anything and the idiot would believe it or do it . . . . "Raymond, eat your own poop". Yep. Gotta work on yourself first dude. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
is there an opportunity to be made in insurance. Yes. But it crashes in 3 years when their bail out also is pulled out from them like a rug. There are a couple of entities I would suggest that are coming out winners in this. hCentric a consulting crew out of Colorado - seem to be ginning and bilking this thing nicely of course Accenture, The Pharma companies are going to continue to be the darlings of the sector; esp Roche as they still hold H1N1 and H1N5 exclusivity Look for investment opportunities in Law firms, Legal Advise Services, and Tax Prep services if you are an entrepreneur enjoy the show. (it all crashes about the 2015-16 time frame when the currency collapses and is replaced; and it is right on schedule) | ||
| Hootowl |
"Think independently for once in your life" That's precious, coming from you. "Or are you too comfortable agreeing with everyone on this thread?" I don't agree with everyone on this thread. I certainly don't agree with you. Sifo and I routinely bump heads. This is not an echo chamber of conservative thought. Everyone's opinion is welcome. Welcome, but not necessarily embraced. You're going to have to do a better job of convincing me that you're right if that is your goal, but so far you've provided no facts to support your arguments. Perhaps swaying people to your point of view is not your purpose here. Yes, that is very likely the case. Please, tell me how you justify your support for the ACA, given the catastrophe that it has turned out to be. A catastrophe, by the way, that was predicted by everyone with the foresight to have read the bill before voting on it. Not ONE of the people who voted for it read it before doing so. You have my undivided attention. | ||
| Fredfast |
" 'Think independently for once in your life' That's precious, coming from you. " As far as I can tell I'm the only one here in support of universal healthcare. Seems pretty independent to me. I don't like the market place idea and would have much preferred the single payer option. It's the market place sites causing most of the problem but it's the best they could do given REPUBLICAN objections. So it's a compromise. Isn't that what government is supposed to do? Justify support for the ACA? Many people without the means to pay for a doctor visit or a hospital visit now can. What more justification do you need? "Not ONE of the people who voted for it read it before doing so." I'll refrain from calling that a lie. I just can't imagine that you have proof of that. | ||
| Fredfast |
"Gotta work on yourself first dude." Are you this pompous in real life? | ||
| Aesquire |
Not ONE of the politicians that voted for it Admit to reading it. More than one said they didn't read any of it. One famously said he would need a staff of lawyers to explain it to him so he saw no point in bothering. Your feigned ignorance is astounding. Your veracity is not. | ||
| Fredfast |
"Your feigned ignorance is astounding. Your veracity is not." Courtesy of your favorite intellectual riff raff. | ||
| Boltrider |
Frank, do you remember when then Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi said "we need to pass it first to see what's in it?" The leader of the majority party in the House said that because nobody on her side read it before voting on it. That is exactly backwards of how things should be done. There was also an incredibly brief vetting period for such a historic law, which helped facilitate its passing while simultaneously slashing the amount of time available to debate it. They wanted the law pushed through ASAP, and then piecewise fix it later on. If the republicans did the same, ie, push a law through a narrow vetting window to find out what was in it later, would you have a problem with that? | ||
| Oldog |
Justify support for the ACA? Many people without the means to pay for a doctor visit or a hospital visit now can. What more justification do you need? Really? what about testing? I have obama care, 3500$ ded, and + 3000$ co ins, so If I would afford some prescribed testing, its only 6500$ this is better?, Really? Last test cost about 4K O.O.P. As I see it I can get tested until I have no means to pay for it.. I wont talk about single payer, as you get "Death panels" don't believe me? Sibelius refused to help a young girl with CF get a needed lung transplant by going on the adult list. it had to be ordered by a judge, FACT Nationally publicized on FOX Do you know how they say F**K YOU in DC? "HI - I'M FROM THE GOVERNMENT I'M HERE TO HELP! " } | ||
| Aesquire |
Riff Raff was my favorite character in The Rocky Horror Picture Show. Which words did you not understand? | ||
| Fredfast |
"Which words did you not understand?" Not sure what feigned ignorance means. Insincere Ignorance? Does that mean I'm smart? Veracity from veritas - truth. I got that one |
