| Author | Message | ||
     Cityxslicker |
The NDAA establishes 'funding' for the Domestic operations against 'terrorism' So who is a Terrorist ?.... Terrorism is defined by the U.S. Department of Defense (DOD) as: “The calculated use of unlawful violence or threat of unlawful violence to inculcate fear; intended to coerce or to intimidate governments or societies in the pursuit of goals that are generally political, religious, or ideological.” Essentially ANYBODY that is NOT a military uniformed member of a formalized command force and structure under an appointed and recognized leader.... but with caveated exceptions as needs and 'threats' may warrant. Who is a 'Terrorist' ? Do you go to a church that the administration doesn't agree with ? Have you given any money to an organization that the administration doesn't agree with ? Do you have private arms (you know - guns) in caliber, quantity, or look that the administration doesn't agree with ? Do you have friends that have guns that the administration doesn't agree with ? Do you have family members that have guns that the administration doesn't agree with ? Do you have food preparations beyond 72 hours that the administration doesn't agree with ? Do you belong to a political group that the administration doesn't agree with ? Do you live in a region that is known to oppose the views that the administration doesn't agree with ? Do you have a brain in your head that the administration doesn't agree with ? Congratulations - you are a terrorist ! Watch and Learn Wait and See (PS if they don't KNOW you are a terrorist - you still maybe rounded up and held until such time is determined that you are not an <immediate> threat) Ran these operations in the Gulf, and the E Europe as the Soviet Collapsed - trust me - you are a terrorist....DAMHIK | ||
| Cityxslicker |
A nice UNC version of what was in progress the last time I was in doing it. http://web.archive.org/web/20020802020226/http://w ww.darpa.mil/iao/TIASystems.htm The highlights to enjoy ?: Transactional Pattern Recognition. Financial Education Travel Medical Veterinary County Entry Place/Event Entry Transportation Housing Critical Resources Government Communications For those of you in the know and do ; just how much is the 'crime link' software we used similar and exploitative to social media ....? It is a treasure trove of evidence against you Komrade - and all archived and streamed. The intell community is mediocre with indications and warnings - they are fantastic with retroactive retaliations and retributions. The true commanders will want to know 'what will happen' the prefunctory minions will be satisfied with 'how' it happened last time. DAMHIK | ||
| Aesquire |
Of course you are just being paranoid. That's right, you have 2 noids. It's not like Congress passed a bill giving the President or his minions the power to order your death, or capture and imprisonment without trial, lawyer, or notification of family, in secret, forever...... Because even to think that would make you a terrorist threat. ( btw, they did. ) http://www.forbes.com/sites/erikkain/2012/01/02/pr esident-obama-signed-the-national-defense-authoriz ation-act-now-what/ http://www.salon.com/2011/12/16/three_myths_about_ the_detention_bill/ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6ThanSzG_w Yep, paranoid. You don't have any waterproof ammo, do you? ( don't answer that. ) | ||
| Cityxslicker |
The NSA and NDAA are surely 'safe' .... “I have confidence in the fact the NSA is not engaging in domestic surveillance or snooping around”, The President said, while “we may have to refine this further to give people more confidence” because of evolving technology. | ||
| Crusty |
Don't you ever get tired of peddling hatred and paranoia about this country? I wish the Ukraine would have a lapse of reason and take you home. | ||
| Panhead_dan |
Crusty, That's the first reaction of most everybody. Normal people who spend most of their time buried in their texting and facebook or watching the news on tv. The sad, cold fact is it's true. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
you say I am paranoid because you don't see it. I say wake the f$ck up, because I have done refugee, detainment, internment, and intelligence gathering services in nine different countries and I happen to know when the wind shifts from the cow pasture. Read the bill - You know your Congressman didn't *and yes - blaming a fair damn share of Republicans for this one. http://docs.house.gov/billsthisweek/20131209/BILLS -113hr-PIH-NDAA14.pdf Its 1100 pages - I am only 140 into it - it has taken me all weekend to get that far and chase the foot notes - you think your senator / congressman spent that time before they passed it ? surely you have more faith in D.C. than I (and as much as I don't trust these guys - they always seem to telegraph their intentions well enough when they are looking for money ) | ||
| Mr_grumpy |
I'm an outsider on US politics & so far have kept well away, I've no wish to get into the rep/dem p*ssing contest or the gun debate. However as I'm likely to be a neighbour soon & passing regularly across your great land, I feel I should at least try & keep myself informed a bit. I feel I should also point out to you that, outside the USA, the NSA has a less than spotless reputation these days (that is nobody outside trusts them farther than they can throw them) since they got caught spying on their friends, repeatedly, after they said they weren't, again. The questions that spring to my mind in all this is who's behind it & why? From what I've read, both online & between the lines, "Big Ears" seems to be a facade & therefore somebody or somebodies must be pulling the strings. My cynical first reaction is usually "follow the money" but I have no idea where to even start looking. As I say I have no axe to grind in any of this, but the consequences may affect me in an indirect manner, so I'm trying to get my head around it all with a view to avoiding trouble. | ||
| Rick_a |
It's the lack of concern and action that has made nanny states out of many a great nation...and much worse. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
A little on the NSA charter.... there has never been a prohibition or limitation on what they could, where they could , how they would collect, store, archive, mine, or exploit SigInt (Signals Intelligence) You put it in the air, over the cable, over the ip, and through your phone, it always was and always has been fair game. The 'oversight' was that they were not supposed to target Us Citizens.... but when you GRAB EVERY communication you can - then you are not really 'targetting' now are you ? ... During the Cold War there were many black box off books listening posts - when the Soviet Threat went away - those assets didn't closed - they merely repurposed for a new threat, cyber this, tax evasion that, digital piracy such and such, and global terrorism hulaballoo. There was no draw down There was no off switch They have not changed - except in scope and depth. They , and when I was in (we) have owned your phone since 1987 - probably before that too - but I was in with the best stereo set in the world, and on a clear night - you may not have been able to see into Russia - but you could certainly hear into it. Your phone is a FCC Radio Frequency Device : That is indeed the lane of travel for the NSA - from day one. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
When I am done with the NDAA .... there is still this to tackle. http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/docs /2013-12-12_rg_final_report.pdf More propaganda from the Departments of Spy and Lie | ||
| Cityxslicker |
From the Executive Summary (with contributions by Cass Sunstein none the less) A free society, public officials should never engage in surveillance in order to punish their political enemies; to restrict freedom of speech or religion; to suppress legitimate criticism and dissent; to help their preferred companies or industries; to provide domestic companies with an unfair competitive advantage; or to benefit or burden members of groups defined in terms of religion, ethnicity, race, and gender. ..... now in true double speak - there is no guarantee that we live in or should live in a free society - so the rest of that is just prattle when a dictator is in charge. |
