| Author | Message | ||
     Cityxslicker |
If the doctors boycott it The Insurers carve out the premier hospitals and the website can't enroll you .... what is the point ? Oh yes, market sector chaos and new IRS powers - the original goal of the entire mess. PS - y'all see the new Hitler Youth / Young Pioneers minions this White House is recruiting to 'spread the good word of ObamaCare' ? | ||
| Oldog |
chilling that parallel to the Hitler youth, I wonder if Christians are the next target group ............ | ||
| Reindog |
If this doesn't chap your hide, tell me why not.  | ||
| Cityxslicker |
If you liked ' If you like your doctor/plan/life you can keep it ' ..... you will LOVE : We are IMPROVING Quality - by dropping cutting edge hospitals and providers - you know to give a more levelled and durable 'quality' analysis..... UHC drops Hundreds of doctors in NY and FLA. enjoy. UnitedHealthcare spokeswoman Jessica Pappas said in a written response to questions, “While these changes can be difficult for patients and their doctors, they are necessary to meet rising quality standards, slow the increase in health costs and sustain our plans in an era of Medicare Advantage funding cuts.” .... and any bets on the UHC bailout provisions under this bill ? Don't worry - their C-suite was well taken care of by the O | ||
| Cityxslicker |
so IF you manage to get signed up.... despite the site being terminally ineffective you will have to PAY for your coverage by the 1/1/2014 date - or your plan will be cancelled and you will have to wait until the next 'open' enrollment period .... despite the fact as of even yesterday a 'pay' button had not been proven to be linked to the healthcare.gov site in a functioning capacity. (less than 10% 'eligible' to pay - have) remember this is really a 4 to 1 Medicaid enrollment rallye IF your policy is cancelled from non payment - the IRS will charge you the penalty and the INTEREST from the date that you were supposed to enroll - and we all know how fun and sun shiny happy they are to deal with AND even if you did enroll, did get your 'insurance' card - doctors and clinics are either 1) being carved out or 2) boycotting the plans because of low reimbursement And of course - the crony exemptions will continue So that new shiny plan ..... ain't worth the toilet paper you wipe your rear side with enjoy FIFTYS | ||
| Cityxslicker |
comedy of the morning : Dr. Zeke Emanuel, the architect of Obamacare appeared on Fox News Sunday and was asked about President Obama’s ‘if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor’ claim. Dr. Emanuel responded, “If you want to pay more for an insurance company that covers your doctor, you can do that.” enjoy | ||
| Cityxslicker |
The 'news' just keeps getting better for those of you that saw the Ray Bradbury Fahrenheit 451 tie in for this legislation.... ok - maybe that was just me. ObamaCare is now set to gut firehouses in a ruling from the IRS that 'volunteer' firefighters are 'employees' and must be covered under municipal plans or face fines there of .... and it further requires the bundling of all the 'volunteers' across all of the active houses so bad news .....http://tinyurl.com/o3xsd3d but cheer up - sex workers LOVE it.... yep - this plan is fully endorsed by those in the adult business of prostitution.. | ||
| Ducbsa |
Don't forget, Dr. Zeke is the Death Panel guy. http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/10/dr-ezekiel-de ath-panel-emanuel-defends-obamacare-debacle/ | ||
| Court |
Zeke is a ••••••• idiot. How . . pray tell . . do educated people . . .watch a guy like that and simply waddle, cower and yield their life's decisions to him? We should be ashamed of how low we've set expectations for our leaders. | ||
| Ducbsa |
Zeke is a fine fellow and says BHO didn't lie when it is obvious he did, but Sarah Palin is a dope when she points out the truth. Somehow the MSM has convinced enough people of that bizarre concept. Then you lump in the group that gets their news from SNL, Stewart, and Colbert. | ||
| Gentleman_jon |
you heard of " distribution of wealth". Well this is "distribution of health".. Same deal, really. Isn't it?  | ||
| Sifo |
Not really. Health insurance unfortunately does not insure your health. It insures your wealth if you get sick. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
In Oregon 'news' they may not have enrolled a single person in the exchanges as a paying customer - but IF you like your poverty - you can keep it ! The DHS/OSH sent out 240,000 Letters to the Oregon Food Stamp Recipients - in the initial letters there was an 'opt-in' response required.... what this has become is that they are using the information from SNAP to automatically enroll state residents into Medicaid.... ie - do nothing and Big Brother will make sure you are enrolled (and of course we will use that leverage to say we need more state/federal funding for the 'poor' in our state) .... Gogol would be proud. | ||
| Reindog |
Don't Be Fooled: ObamaCare Is Not Getting Better; It's Not Fixable By David Limbaugh · Dec. 13, 2013 If you have just returned from a space mission on a spaceship without Internet access and some Kool-Aid-drinking liberal has assured you the disastrous Obamacare problems are behind us, let me do my part to help deprogram you. The website problems were too numerous to count, and they are just the tip of the Obamacare iceberg. The substantive problems with Obamacare are enormous. Oh, and the website problems continue, as well. Obama is not about to abandon this law, because he cares more about fundamentally transforming the nation than he even does about his approval ratings, which have reached an all-time low. Besides, if he's lost the public's trust, it's not his fault but ours, because, to paraphrase Valerie Jarrett, we are just not quite capable of fathoming his surpassing greatness, and we'll eventually recover our senses. As a returning cloistered astronaut who has just emerged from his propaganda session with the Obamabot, you should hear some highlights about Obamacare from just the past few days' news. The Obamacare website has reportedly violated the Federal Information Security Management Act by failing to perform a series of security control assessment tests. The Department of Health and Human Services reports that just 365,000 people have signed up for private health insurance under the new law, which is abysmally far from its already meager goal of signing 1.2 million by the end of November. Most of these came from the 14 state exchanges, and only 137,000 came from the federal website, HealthCare.gov. As some 5 million have already lost coverage because of Obamacare, it's hard to imagine how the law won't result in millions more people losing their coverage than new people acquiring it, even counting the 800,000 new Medicaid enrollees. All the while, HHS Secretary Kathleen Sebelius falsely assures Congress that everything's fine, saying, “We are seeing very, very positive trends” now that HealthCare.gov is supposedly working better. Some who have signed up for coverage on the website are receiving email notices informing them they shouldn't assume they are covered unless they “have seen the Confirmation Letter from the Disbursing Office!” Indeed, according to insurance industry consultants, those who have signed up for coverage may find that their coverage has lapsed because to secure coverage, a customer's premiums first must be paid. Reportedly, only 5 percent of Obamacare enrollees have paid at this point. The Washington Post reports that patients with high medical bills are having difficulties determining which plans on the exchange fit their particular needs. In the website chaos, this information is far from readily obtainable. Reuters cites a Cornell University study showing that just half of the country's psychiatrists are likely to accept Obamacare. Only 7,000 people in Illinois have signed up for Obamacare. In Missouri, the scorched-earth law may cause major cuts in hours for substitute teachers and a potential fine of $150,000 for public schools. A little-known regulation from the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services may cause as many as 3.5 million poor and elderly people to lose home health care coverage beginning Jan. 1. It's now common knowledge that Obamacare exchanges are excluding many physicians, hospitals and drugs, and a panel of doctors will testify before the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform that they are being dropped from patient provider networks because of Obamacare. Sebelius refuses to provide straight answers to questions about whether and how often she met with President Obama about Obamacare and the website prior to the rollout. Adding insult to injury, HHS is obstructing a congressional investigation by instructing contractors working on the website not to release documents to the investigators. While we are treating Obama's fraudulent promises on Obamacare as past-tense deceit, we may be overlooking his ongoing duplicity. As The Wall Street Journal's editors also observe, “the reason for all this obstruction and statistical juking is so the White House can get the press corps and Democrats to believe that the worst is over and that ObamaCare is now rolling toward success. … But it's impossible for an outsider to know what the truth really is because HHS and the White House continue to manipulate and bury the real statistics.” There's one other thing I want you space travelers to understand before we end this session. Our indignation over Obama's lies about our ability to keep our plans and doctors is wholly justified, but let's not overlook another consequence of this betrayal beyond the government's outrageous severance of our freedoms and personal relationships with our health care providers. Obamacare's exclusion of doctors and hospitals from the exchanges necessarily means a reduction in the quality of health care overall, thus negating one of the main ostensible purposes of this abominable law in the first place. Next time you decide to go on a space mission, demand Web access and give me your email address. source: http://patriotpost.us/opinion/22231 | ||
| Cityxslicker |
Smells of Cult of Personality : Uncle Joe would be Proud http://tinyurl.com/llu9gsn If you believe that a thing can get done by will and personality alone (sidled with bribes and the threats of violence) then things are very uncomplicated.... ;?/ double posting because it is Double Plus Good Komrade | ||
| Reindog |
We can't get Sebelius and Obama to be forthcoming about details of the website. Can you imagine how more duplicitous and politicized your health care is going to be as we careen further into this monstrosity? As expected, there are now calls for Socialized Medicine conveniently renamed Single-Payer by the Statists. Do YOU really want the government to control your health care if they deem you an upright citizen. Or will YOU support true health care reform in the private sector? The clock is ticking, comrades.  | ||
| Hootowl |
That "art" should be subject to campaign finance laws. | ||
| Aesquire |
Why? Obama isn't subject to campaign finance laws, why should his followers be? http://www.nationalreview.com/article/366206/obama care-disinformation-runs-deep-jonah-goldberg | ||
| Aesquire |
btw, "lies all the way down" is a reference to an argument about the shape of the Earth. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtles_all_the_way_d own In the Video Game "Borderlands" there is graffiti scrawled all over the place and "turtles all the way down" is among them. | ||
| Hootowl |
That's one of my favorite stories. | ||
| Chauly |
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/14/nyregion/with-af fordable-care-act-canceled-policies-for-new-york-p rofessionals.html?smid=tw-share&_r=0 As Bob Tracinski paraphrased Rand : "Brother, you asked for it! " | ||
| Hootowl |
Unfortunately, they are not the only ones who have to wear the helmet they shat in. | ||
| Reindog |
A snippet from the NYT article.
You are reading the words of "Useful Idiots". Or is that Useless? | ||
| Sifo |
You are reading the words of "Useful Idiots". Funny. That's EXACTLY what I was thinking while reading that. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
gee - if there were only some way to have seen this coming..... Washington 1996-1998 Tennessee 1994-1998 Massachusetts 2006-2012 Russia 1914-1922 & 1922-1990 Cuba 1957-2013 if only we could have 'known'..... dipshiates. less than usefull. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
And now for something completely different... see if you can spot the lies we know today.... now for fun... go back and look at how many of them I called out as lies four years ago yep FIFTYS | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/12/17/hysteri cal-and-terrifying-glenn-beck-on-why-a-simple-heal th-care-related-robo-call-has-resounding-implicati ons/ As Beck puts it, it's a robot programmed to lie to you. ( might as well be the President ) the Times folk, of course, blame the private company that is running a scam. http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/12/16/is-this -telemarketer-real-she-wont-ever-say-im-not-a-robo t/ I suspect they are both correct. Does Obama know that this company is using "robots programmed to lie" to sell Obamacare? I doubt it. I suspect his minions do, AND DON'T BOTHER TO TELL HIM. When the history of this Administration is finally written, I'm betting that we'll find out that the whole thing is like those Regan era SNL skits where Regan thinks he's making a movie about being President, and the country is being run by his handlers. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
If you have ever used 'Live Bridge' into India or Brazil - this is exactly how it sounds - the lag is because they read the skript and understand the writing better than they do what you are saying. As you are talking your words are transferred to text. Also the type/read/talk delay added to distance (anyone make a phone call overseas 20 years ago ?... there could be a two to three minute lag) The tech for it has been around for over a decade - ATT uses it quite often for medical consulting ; so I have the feeling - this is that ; with high probability. esp since there was a LARGE provision in ObamaCare to outsource call centers into India | ||
| Cityxslicker |
Because it is run by the IRS - you would expect anything less than draconian seizures ? "As Prins began searching for answers, she found that even those trained to help people sign up for insurance under the ACA weren’t aware of this provision, nor were some government officials." Um - IF you read the bill - you KNEW the IRS was going to seize your house when you die (and any other assets in your estate) but it gets better ... When you go to Life Evaluation and 'Hospice' or InPatient care - they will put a LIEN on your property so that you can not transfer it out of your ownership to escape the fines, penalties, levies, interest and billing that they see fit. http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2022469957_ medicaidrecoveryxml.html gee - if someone had only READ the bill before they passed it.... DAMHIK. and yes FIFTYS | ||
| Cityxslicker |
Cut, Copy, Paste Alert : via MoveOn.org Dear MoveOn member, Zero. That's the total number of positive stories about the Affordable Care Act on the ABC and NBC Nightly News in the first two months of Obamacare. At the same time, they ran nearly wall-to-wall negative stories.1 Clearly, there were serious problems with the rollout that deserved attention. But zero positive stories about the largest expansion of health care access in decades? That's just irresponsible journalism. And it's having real-world consequences. Some people are actually choosing not to enroll because of all the bad news—and with just 14 weeks left to enroll, some of those people could be left out in the cold.2 That's why MoveOn is launching a major, ongoing effort to highlight all the great things happening because of Obamacare. Thousands of people have already volunteered to share their stories publicly—stories of lives saved and families kept out of bankruptcy—but we haven't yet raised the money we need to pay for organizers and ongoing ads to keep the media focused on these stories in 2014. Your monthly contribution is critical to our effort's success. Can you chip in $5 a month to help defend Obamacare in 2014? It's easy, and you can cancel at any time. Click here to donate: Yes, I will help out with a monthly contribution to save Obamacare. No, I can't right now. MoveOn member Selena Martinez is a perfect example of a success story that has the power to change what voters think of Obamacare. Selena's daughter has lupus, a life-threatening disease, and can only get health care today because of Obamacare. But the mainstream media have refused to cover her story—so with MoveOn's help, she collected 70,000 petition signatures and organized a protest in New York City to demand that CBS News pay attention to how Obamacare is saving her family. There are thousands of MoveOn members with similar stories. We've assembled some of the most powerful stories and already shared them with media outlets and members of Congress. But we need to do more—so MoveOn's rapid-response team is preparing some of the most compelling to speak out publicly next year. These individual success stories are especially effective at getting local news coverage, which is important because that's where most voters still get the majority of their news. Giving monthly is the best way to support an ongoing organizing effort like this, because it helps us make big plans now—and know that we know we can fund those plans. With your help we'll hire organizers, book ads in advance, and develop a real strategy to change the media narrative on Obamacare in 2014. |
