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     Sifo |
No problem with the Johnson covers. I just don't associate them with health insurance. Does it really make sense to cover something so inexpensive under an insurance plan? As I pointed out though, they make great sense when you are about to get the screwing of your life. | ||
| Glitch |
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| Cityxslicker |
you can't make this shiate up .... and tragically - this IS their market keep playing to that lo info crowd; lay down that music and play that funk until you die.... until you die. http://www.doyougotinsurance.com/index.php?id=2 | ||
| Cityxslicker |
more ad trype for it. enjoy it- you are paying for it http://www.aarp.org/ws/affordable-care-act/mom-mea ns-it/ (remember not nickel one has been collected in premium) | ||
| Sifo |
I may have that talk on Thanksgiving. I'll be at my Obama lovin' in-laws all weekend. I especially want to hear how it's working out for my brother-in-law who is too damn paranoid about his identity information to even slide his credit card into a gas pump. I want to hear his views on putting his SS# into a website that has been proven to not be secure. I know damn well that he will qualify for subsidies, so I really feel the need to make sure he signs up. Maybe I should bring my computer along so we can sit down and see if the website will work for him. Should be a great holiday weekend for me! | ||
| Strokizator |
I was listening to some nut-job on the radio yesterday who talked about the benefit of shared expenses. According to her, I will now pay $2 for something that I used to get for $1 while some other slob will now get it free and that constitutes "shared". Do these guys ever listen to themselves and think WTF did I just say and does anybody believe it? Come to think of it, when I was a little guy my older brother had a similar definition of sharing, so this is familiar territory for me. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
as my nephew used to say when a similar deal was proposed to him .... 'I am all done sharing now' (if a 5 year old can understand it with cookies - what kind of idiots did we elect?) | ||
| Cityxslicker |
If you do not have an end of life decision made, and on file..... one will be made for you. "The American College of Emergency Physicians has joined the Choosing Wisely Campaign with one of the recommendations involving "engaging available palliative and hospice care services in the emergency department for patients likely to benefit." EDs around the country should seriously consider implementing end-of-life strategies given the resources available, encourage physician education in this area, and provide resources to patients and families on this topic. " from one of my forum board blogs and alerts. enjoy | ||
| Cityxslicker |
Coming in 2015. There are at least three significant rule changes in Health Care ACA (ObamaDon'tCare) Legislation. a. The tax under 26 U.S.C. 5000A for not having government-approved health insurance increases significantly, going from the greater of $95 per person or 1% of household income to the greater $295 per person or 2% of household income. Insurers may therefore assume that enrollment will be greater in 2015 than in 2014. So people will be pushed over the edge by the higher tax rate into purchasing health insurance. If so, insurers may feel less pressure to increase prices because they believe their experience in 2014 will not be repeated in 2015. b. The employer mandate will presumably not be delayed again by executive order which may have two offsetting events: employers reducing the number of full time employees thereby adding more to the Exchanges or employers maintaining health insurance thereby reducing the potential pool for the Exchanges. c) There will be a decline in transitional reinsurance now provided free to insurers in the Exchange which, in and of itself, will put significant pressure on premiums and finally - the toxic asset bundling that created the housing failure will be on deck and ready to repeat for a market sector that is 1/6 of the economy, 1/3 of the budget (when they write on) if you have money in banks - now is a good time to remove that and put it else where | ||
| Strokizator |
if you have money in banks - now is a good time to remove that and put it elsewhere My gut feelings, exactly. Only where do I put it? I closed my business and sold all the assets. The house goes up next right after the holidays. I'll be left with nothing but cash and keeping in the US means it's subject to devaluation as the govt continues to print money or even outright confiscation so that it can be redistributed to those who haven't done as well "through no fault of their own". MY wife's a Japanese citizen, how does that country look? Or are all western-style democracies in the same boat? I'm 61 now and worked hard and long to get where I am but I don't have it in me to do it again. | ||
| Chauly |
Junk silver? | ||
| Aesquire |
Because the very rich gamble with gold, I would avoid it. Seriously, when George Soros can sell off a few tons ( yeah, he's THAT rich ) and change the planetary prices, it's a sucker's game for us. Besides, when you need to fill your gas tank, there's no way to get the poor guy at Sunoco to take some Gold dust, and there are few coins that are cheap enough to even afford to own. When an ounce of Gold is $1400 or $1900 it's not currency it's Capital Investment. ( or foolish gamble ) Silver? I think you can trace the sudden rise in Silver ads to folk trying to sell theirs, not any rational investment advice. No, if you want to be into metals, go for copper, brass, lead, gilding metal. Pity I didn't invest a few thousand back before the current Administration. Or, to be more practical, buy Mountain House in pouches. There's an item you can trade to anyone after an Earthquake, Hurricane, Tornado, Blizzard, Declaration Of Martial Law, etc. Of course, gold, metals, food, all will be confiscated by the Feds under current State Of Emergency rules. So in the end, if you don't have your health?........ ( cough, cough ) | ||
| Cityxslicker |
food, guns, ammo, gas, water, and getting off grid - or out of CONUS. The time comes when the dollar don't mean shiate. I am still betting on 2016-17... because 1) it is right about the time of an 'election' - and the chaos of a failed dollar is enough to impose Martial Law 2) it is 100 years after the Soviet imposed the 'new' Ruble ... and these idiots love the symbolism just entirely too much. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
BitCoin - is now going for ATM solutions... but again - that depends on banks and the electric grid working.... two things I have little faith in for the near horizon. how do we do it? We still have living relatives and mentors that survived the Depression and WWII - I think they are a good source of info for real day to day life - we need to tap that. I have friends that lived and escaped Soviet Union - their insights and warnings of what has been trending in America for the last 10 years have done me well to keep surviving - but certainly not rich. But I will take alive, poor and angry over dead, imprisoned and rich. the time is coming that you will only be able to 'be' if you pay tribute and dhimmitude to the O and his minions. unless somebody invites them all the the grassy knoll or Ford Theater. | ||
| Glitch |
BitCoin - is now going for ATM solutions... There is an ATM for BitCoin, and so far so good. I love the idea behind BitCoin, not only is it a thumb in the eye of the banks, it's scaring the establishment. But it's weak point is being tied to technology and the Internet. That is a very weak link, in my opinion. In all actuality, the Internet isn't free, nor is it non-regulated. We still have living relatives and mentors that survived the Depression and WWII - I think they are a good source of info for real day to day life - we need to tap that. Yep | ||
| Cityxslicker |
Remember how they said prisoners and the incarcerated will not be covered under the PPACA (ObamaFarce) legislation.......? WEll loookee loookee - The state of Michigan is going to enroll them , because 1) the cost of care for this population is too high for the state budget 2) these criminals are of a large subset of the economoically disadvantaged and don't know that they should be enrolled 3) many are illiterate and the state is just doing them a great service to get them entolled .....and finally - because 'Yes we can' but cheer up California is and has been for the last two years extending Medicaid (because that is all ObamaCare is ) to their 'dreamers' ..... despite the national declaration and delineation in the law that they were to be specifically excluded ..... remember All animals are equal - but some are more equal than others Best go to work tomorrow - the widening depth and breadth of the failing empire depends on your payroll deductions and taxes | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/365278/core- incompetency-editors http://www.nationalreview.com/article/365207/we-sh ould-all-worry-about-aca-grace-marie-turner-tyler- hartsfield | ||
| Sifo |
Sure, just try to click the "Apply Now" button! healthcare.gov  | ||
| Court |
I keep wondering where GarryB is . . . I can only assume he tried logging on, his personal information was stolen and that he's consumed trying to straighten the mess out. I hope he got all those gains out of those big fat 401K programs. . . . :-) I'm quite certain, that as a Democrat, he's simply too embarrassed in the face of these blatant lies suddenly all being exposed simultaneously. | ||
| Sifo |
Speaking of "security"... No security ever built into Obamacare site: Hacker
I can verify that it's much easier to build your security before you start creating all the other modules. I've see projects done both ways, and it's just easier to establish security requirements up front and design everything else to work with what you have designed. What is clear to me is that security was on the back burner. So is everything else that isn't readily apparent to the user on the front end. This is the easy part of the easy part of our new health care system. Just wait until things really start to fail in the real world, not just a website. 3rd grade math will tell you that ObamaDontCare is going to fail brutally. | ||
| Strokizator |
After Obama gets done, you won't have anything worth stealing anyway. | ||
| Sifo |
Good point Stroke. I keep wondering why a "health care" system is tied into the Department of Homeland Security. pResident BO has assured illegal aliens that this will not be used against them. I wonder who's being targeted? I know who's being targeted by the IRS. I guess this just ties it all together in one package that we are all supposed to blindly sign up for.  | ||
| Glitch |
AnonymousLOL said that the site is a n00b H4cK3r'5 wet dream. I believe them. I'll not say I know anyone affiliated with them though. | ||
| Sifo |
It's pretty terrifying, and telling, how this administration has so little regard for the security of it's subjects. You supporters out there? What have you got to say? Expert: Healthcare.gov Security Risks Even Worse After ‘Fix’ | ||
| Reindog |
Buellkowski, You were pretty loud at the beginning of this thread challenging us. We responded. Why are you afraid to continue debating? Your continued silence is deafening. | ||
| Sifo |
pResident POS was just flapping his lips about ObamaDontCare helping to address income inequality. This is the type of dishonest crap I have come to expect from liberals (communists). This was never sold to America as income redistribution, but rather care for the uninsured. It was even denied to be about income redistribution. Now he is talking up the income redistribution aspects of this steaming pile. Never mind the fact that it's looking like we will have a net loss of insured people by next year. When the "other" side has the power, demand that this be completely repealed. Start from ground zero and address the real problems. I'm sick and tired of this piece of shit ass hole pResident. | ||
| Reindog |
Do you really want China, Russia, and gangs of internet hackers to have access to YOUR personal information when you sign up on healthcare.gov? YOU are going to be a target of identity theft. Testimony is happening that this $1 billion site has NO security built into it. Or are you going to continue on your merry way and believe your lying pResident and Nancy Pelosi and Debbi Wasserman-Shultz? If you can't listen to your brain, then try listening to your pocketbook. | ||
| Reepicheep |
No doubt there could be security problems with the site, and projects in trouble generally can usually be counted on to be in trouble with security specifically. But I haven't seen any specific descriptions of any specific vulnerabilities or proof of concept exploits that I could validate. The only specific thing I saw was that search auto completion was suggesting SQL injection attacks were being tried. That just means they were being tried, not that they worked. OK, I take it back, that probably was a security issue... not because it meant the SQL injection was working, but because it suggests they were leaking privacy (person A does search on something, and person B can deduce it). This is almost always a bad idea even when "non sensitive" data is involved, and is universally a bad idea when sensitive data is there. I expect that's why they pulled the feature down. Somebody like me got pulled in and may or may not have seen an actual SQL injection issue, but recognized the privacy leakage. | ||
| Sifo |
But I haven't seen any specific descriptions of any specific vulnerabilities or proof of concept exploits that I could validate. There's a twofold reason that you won't hear the specifics. There are "security experts" who have been testing the security and claiming it to be severely lacking. These aren't malicious attacks though, and the last thing they want is to give information out to help the malicious attackers. The other reason, is that any successful attacks that are known by the government certainly are not going to be freely announced. They have been so secretive with everything up to this point, there is no way they are ever going to be upfront about a security breach. Having been a victim of a major security breach by a credit card company, I've seen the denials that go on first hand. This is after it's public knowledge that the breach happened. This was an issue specific to that credit card, very limited in scope. It was clear what happened. Complete identity theft, as is likely to happen with this system is much more difficult to track to a specific cause, and I have zero reason to believe that this administration would ever be upfront about any security breach associated with their income redistribution program. They couldn't even be upfront about what it was when selling it to the public as a concept. | ||
| Sifo |
Analysis Finds Cost of Obamacare Website Is Way More Than Anyone Predicted
So the cost now is over $1 billion! OK, use your imagination to see my "shocked face". I do take issue with the "original" estimate though. I guess that's the original from the GAO. Originally it was reported to be $93 million.
That comes from Media Matters, they wouldn't dare lie about left wing policy, would they? So it's now more than 10 fold over budget, only 60% complete (or is it 40% complete?) and only works 80% of the time. I just can't wait to see how the actual product works! Scary to think that to pResident POS, this is a success! |
