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Cityxslicker
Posted on Tuesday, December 03, 2013 - 11:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There has a been a nice fat news black out about the demonstrations and actions of the citizens of Ukraine to oust a corrupt, despotic tyrant that operates by graft, cronyism, nepotism, and of course arbitrary police action.

A full issue of NO Confidence from the populace. Hundreds of thousands out in protest against the regime in the major cities of Kiev, Odessa, Lviv, Donetsk, Poltava and Nikolaev.

I hope it becomes contagious domestically
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, December 03, 2013 - 11:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not quite a blackout. I read about it yesterday. Not much information though.
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Cataract2
Posted on Tuesday, December 03, 2013 - 12:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have no idea what you're talking about. Sure seems to be news on it.

http://www.rr.com/articles/2013/12/03/k/kiev-prote sters-shout-revolution-at-parliament

Ukraine opposition fails to force out govt in vote

AP | By MARIA DANILOVA

Published December 3, 2013 11:35AM EST

KIEV, Ukraine (AP) — Ukraine's opposition failed to force out the government with a parliamentary no-confidence vote Tuesday, leaving political tensions unresolved and a potential standoff between protesters and the country's leaders looming.

The opposition called for the vote in protest both of President Viktor Yanukovych's shelving of a long-anticipated agreement to deepen political and economic ties with the European Union and the violent tactics used by police to disperse demonstrators protesting that decision.

The dispute has brought crowds of up to 300,000 people to the streets of Kiev, the largest outpouring of public anger since the 2004 Orange Revolution.

The no-confidence measure got the support of 186 members of the Verkhovna Rada, 40 shy of the majority needed. Even if it had passed, Yanukovych would have remained president, but the prime minister and Cabinet would have been ejected.

Prime Minister Mykola Azarov, attending the parliamentary session with his Cabinet, apologized for the violence by riot police against protesters.

"Both the president and the government feel deeply sorry that it happened," Azarov told a rowdy parliament, to unceasing chants of "Shame" and "Resignation" from opposition lawmakers.

But Azarov defended the government's course, denouncing protesters who have blocked access to government offices and warning the opposition that authorities will be able to hold their ground.

"We are open for dialogue," Azarov said. "We have extended our hand to you, but if we encounter a fist, I will be frank, we have enough force."

In turn, Vitali Klitschko, the superheavyweight world boxing champion and leader of the opposition party Udar, vowed that the action would continue.

"We will peacefully blockade the government building and not allow them to work," he told demonstrators on Independence Square after the no-confidence motion failed.

During the vote, several thousand protesters rallied outside the parliament building, which was cordoned off by white police buses and riot police in full gear.

After the vote failed, the opposition urged Ukrainians to continue protests. About 5,000 demonstrators gathered outside Yanukvoych's office and demand that he sign a decree dismissing Azarov's Cabinet and call an early election.

"If he thinks he is going to evade responsibility, he is wrong," opposition leader Arseniy Yatsenyuk said.

The president's office, however, said he had left the country for a trip to China, where he is expected to sign an array of economic agreements.

Azarov, like Yanukovych, has said Ukraine wants further integration with the EU, but can't now bear the burden of the trade losses with Russia it would presumably suffer. Ukraine is also deeply dependent on natural gas from Russia, which previously has sharply raised prices for its neighbor.

Russia opposes closer Ukraine-EU relations, hoping to draw Ukraine into a trading bloc of several former Soviet republics.

Lawmakers in Poland, a country at the forefront of EU attempts to bring Ukraine into the 28-nation bloc's fold, adopted a resolution calling for dialogue between Ukraine's opposition and the government. It also condemned the use of force during protests and expressed solidarity with pro-European Ukrainians.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Tuesday, December 03, 2013 - 01:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

all the stuff I have seen this weekend was football - miley twerking and of course the Fast and Furious death.
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Cataract2
Posted on Tuesday, December 03, 2013 - 01:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Right...
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, December 03, 2013 - 01:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I would expect this to be on the front pages. But it isn't, just pop tarts being rich and idle.
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Tuesday, December 03, 2013 - 03:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

One of the top stories here.

I presume that the US news media are taking the attitude that it's a European problem & therefore beneath their notice.
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Hootowl
Posted on Tuesday, December 03, 2013 - 03:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The US press probably doesn't want to remind us that we could do the same, since their horse is currently the one in power.
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Oldog
Posted on Tuesday, December 03, 2013 - 04:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+2 Hoot
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Pwnzor
Posted on Tuesday, December 03, 2013 - 04:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

+3 Hoot & City
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M1combat
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2013 - 02:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Make it 4.
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2013 - 07:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/expert-testifies-to-con gress-that-obamas-ignoring-laws-could-lead-to-over throw-of-government/
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2013 - 11:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just file this under "Nothing happens in a vacuum".

http://onthenorthriver.com/2013/12/02/doug-what-th e-hell-is-going-on/#more-8326
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Wednesday, December 04, 2013 - 12:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sifo - that is a hell of a f'n list.
I have only been tracking the losses to the Strategic Nuclear Triad Forces (Land, Sea, Air - nuclear launch capable forces)

I sense that with the chem weapons out of Syria put into 'our' custody and 'disposed' of at sea upon 'guarded' barges.... as a situation ripe for a hijacking or false flag of WMD chem weapons .....
and or
now that were are supporting Iran to enrich any amount of uranium it wishes, with no limitations on centerfuges, raw supplies, nor importation of technology, without inspection .... that the region is becoming warmer for an Iranian strike against Israel;... and since our nuclear command forces are being gutted (and probably replaced with O loyalists) that we will as a strategic force do NOTHING.

That this man has keys to nukes is very bad - he is a childhood school ground bully with a cartoon knowledge of radical Communism.

There has never been a more dire threat to the sovereignty and Constitution of this nation - than the idiot in charge now.

C@B
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, December 07, 2013 - 06:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Looks like Ukraine is abandoning the "West" and going with Russia. So much for freedom.

Immigration reform. Saudi Style.

http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/6b49c0fa-5d9d-11e3- b3e8-00144feabdc0.html#axzz2mpWmsDUd

And US Style.

http://mdjonline.com/bookmark/24174707-Immigrant-s tudents-seek-Georgia-s-in-state-tuition-rates

http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-TV/2013/12/05/D em-Rep-Hysterically-Screams-on-House-Floor-Over-Im migration-Reform

The Saudis have a real problem.

A great deal of the actual work done there is by immigrants. You know, all those jobs "Americans won't do"? Only worse.

There's a very real entitlement attitude there, especially among young men, ( and young women don't count, at all ) who very correctly decide that being lower middle class with nothing to do is better than poor and working. Does this remind you of anything? ( I'm not talking the fall of Rome )

Their Young male unemployment is massive, almost as bad as the US Black Young Male Unemployment. far too many people are on the dole. The Saudis have oil wells to pay for that, while our government, currently does not. YOU pay, instead.


There are cultural reasons that the Saudis have problems as well. Their women are property, and not allowed to run things, even though they are better at school. ( another cultural thing )

The surrounding countries have such utter crap education systems ( a different cultural issue ) the bulk of their people are only good for menial jobs in a technological society.

Like Common Core will produce. Here.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Saturday, December 07, 2013 - 10:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

they are not ones to risk or jump at innovation and thinking outside the box ....
unless it is to skirt a law or three

ie Allah does not see what happens in Bahrain
if you have ever been there - you know exactly what I mean.
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, December 08, 2013 - 12:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

https://twitter.com/kevinpost/status/4089652834291 05664/photo/1

pop.
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, December 08, 2013 - 04:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/12/09/world/europe/kie v-teems-with-pro-europe-protesters-as-thousands-mo re-gather.html?_r=0

crackle.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Sunday, December 08, 2013 - 05:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

how many stickers should she buy .....

Purple ! because the Unicorn in the barn on the hill has counted that color as his favorite number of the rainbow
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