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Fb1
Posted on Monday, October 14, 2013 - 08:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

He believes Americans are too complacent and naive in thinking that such things could not happen here.

Some Americans may be. The run on guns and ammo earlier this year leads me to believe there are still plenty of Patriots among us who see quite clearly through the political rhetoric...
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Sifo
Posted on Monday, October 14, 2013 - 05:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I went to the local gun shop today, first time in a couple of months now. I actually got some small pistol primers! Limit 1000 per customer, but it's good to see them in stock. At $34.99 I don't feel completely gouged either. Lot's of other stuff I hadn't seen much of for a while. Nice to see things returning to something resembling "normal".
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Macbuell
Posted on Monday, October 14, 2013 - 05:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ammo prices still haven't come down all the way and I am thinking this may be the new normal.
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Rick_a
Posted on Tuesday, October 15, 2013 - 06:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was amazed to see some CCI #400 primers on the shelf the other day. I had to scoop some up.

Now if I could find a cheap brick of 22lr I'll be doing good.
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Crashm1
Posted on Thursday, October 17, 2013 - 02:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rick I haven't been able to find any .22LR since last December. Besides checking Wally world biweekly I check the ammo supply at FleetFarm, Duhams, Dicks, and Gander Mountains and all their shelves are bare of .22 ammo. It's insane. Fortunately I have 4 or 5k of it right now but I'm not real excited about using it until the supply catches up with demand.
Centerfire supply looks like it's getting caught up in most calibers but rimfire is a different story.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, October 17, 2013 - 08:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

.22lr still seems the hardest to find. I finally found some .357, and 9mm seems not only back, but cheap again.

I did score some .22lr at my local gunshop, but it's some weird "green range" ammo with no lead and I suspect it is some kind of frangible round. Says it is accurate out to 50 yards, so it is probably a light round moving faster or something, haven't gotten to shoot it yet.

Hopefully, when it comes back, it will come with a bit of a bubble and the price will drop back for the patient cheapskate hoarders. : )
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, October 20, 2013 - 08:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://boston.cbslocal.com/2013/10/15/nh-clerk-fir ed-after-pulling-gun-on-armed-robber/

This was company policy when I worked at a 7-11. Still is. We had a thread that discussed this, but it's archived now.

So just chalk this up to still alive & fired beats gainfully dead. Sucks. But this happens every week, somewhere.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Sunday, October 20, 2013 - 10:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This was company policy when I worked at a 7-11.

Still is. My biological father owns some 7-11 stores around Fresno, CA. I worked in them as a child (his idea of visitation), and we always had a bat behind the counter. No gun. If somebody pulls a gun, you give up the cash drawer and whatever else they want. If they try to grab you or hit you, the bat comes out at your own discretion.

You engage in a deadly force confrontation, and you're handed your final check.
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Britchri10
Posted on Sunday, October 20, 2013 - 01:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Company policy or not I'd rather lose my job than my life!
It may be unfair but it is what it is.
We have all been granted freewill & I am happy in the knowledge that I would act in my own best interest in that type of situation & accept the consequences of my actions thereafter.
Chris C
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Hootowl
Posted on Sunday, October 20, 2013 - 01:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, October 20, 2013 - 03:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well said Citizen Weiss.
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Blake
Posted on Monday, October 21, 2013 - 09:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A'men!

For those who wish to share...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lh1zornUVv8
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Fb1
Posted on Monday, October 21, 2013 - 10:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Amen.
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Fb1
Posted on Tuesday, October 22, 2013 - 05:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

War is currently being waged in Virginia. We lost the Commonwealth to 0bama in last November's pretend presidential election - when the dust settled, Dear Leader garnered 50.8% of the state's votes.

We'll be voting on a new governor here in several weeks. The democratic challenger is leading in the polls, which is a pisser.

A few moments ago I received this via e-mail from the Virginia Citizens Defense League:

quote:

Michael Bloomberg’s pro-gun-control super PAC will drop $1.1 million on ads for Democrat Terry McAuliffe in the final two weeks of the Virginia governor’s race.

The billionaire New York City mayor’s money will be siphoned through Independence USA PAC into broadcast television commercials in the D.C. market, according to two sources tracking the air war.

McAuliffe has courted and wooed Bloomberg, privately seeking his support on a trip to New York City Hall in August.

Bloomberg, who bills himself as an independent, has spent more than $15 million on various gun control initiatives. He just spent $1 million helping elect Newark Mayor Cory Booker to a U.S. Senate seat in last Wednesday’s New Jersey special election to replace the late Frank Lautenberg, long a champion of gun control measures.

McAuliffe is unapologetic about his support for stricter gun laws, including an assault weapons ban, universal background checks, limiting the size of magazines and preventing people from buying more than one gun a month. He would unquestionably be a close Bloomberg ally should he win.

The campaign of Republican Ken Cuccinelli, who supports a focus on mental health to reduce gun violence, slammed the ads as out-of-state interference.

“Terry McAuliffe and his allies are spending tens of millions of dollars in an attempt to buy Virginia’s governor’s mansion and impose an idealogical agenda that will severely restrict Virginian’s Second Amendment rights, hike energy prices for Virginia families and undermine our right-to-work laws,” said Cuccinelli communications director Richard T. Cullen.

Cuccinelli is trailing in the polls, partly because he is getting so massively outspent on television. Groups like Planned Parenthood, the National Education Association and billionaire environmentalist Tom Steyer have poured in millions.



I'm not originally from Virginia, but I've been here long enough that it feels like home.

I also now better understand the concept of Liberty - this land has been at the center of TWO wars for independence in this country, and the folks around here - at least the ones up here in the mountains - have NOT forgotten their roots. Our country's history is still very much real and alive in these parts.

It makes me sick that my state went to the Democrats last November. And now, with the help of the New York Nanny and his influence, we may have a Democrat "leading" our state, as well.

I just read that Shrillary formally endorsed McAuliffe yesterday; THAT'S how important Virginia is in the political scheme of things. (It was also the reporter's opinion that her endorsement also signaled the formal start to her bid for the presidency in 2016...)

I cannot imagine being "governed" by a man who would actively seek and willingly accept money from the Nanny. I cannot imagine being "governed" by a man who does not support the 2nd Amendment with every ounce of his being.

I cannot imagine, again, losing Virginia to the left, maybe this time forever...
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Rick_a
Posted on Sunday, October 27, 2013 - 11:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Now "large amounts" of weapons and ammunition are an indicator of terrorist activity.
Feds Say Possession of “Large Amounts” of Weapons May Indicate Terrorist Activity | Public Intelligence

Thankfully, I have yet to be pulled over on the way to the range



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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, November 06, 2013 - 11:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I see this as good news...

Gun Companies Leave New York Following SAFE Act
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D_adams
Posted on Friday, November 08, 2013 - 07:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.recoilweb.com/just-printed-solid-concep ts-3d-printed-metal-1911-35037.html

Just need to find me a printer now...
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Hootowl
Posted on Friday, November 08, 2013 - 09:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7ZYKMBDm4M

There's a video : )
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, November 10, 2013 - 12:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/03/24/1077374/- Yes-conservatives-we-want-to-take-away-your-guns#

Bottom line, as a person of principle, not an etch a sketch faux varmint hunter, let me be clear, you can keep a gun to hunt, you can keep a reasonable handgun to protect your property and person, and you can keep your goofy gun collections but you MAY NOT HAVE SICKO GUNS DESINGED TO DO NOTHING OTHER THAN KILL PEOPLE!!!! We liberals want to take THOSE GUNS away. We really do!

I suppose that leaves us .570 Nitro Elephant guns and the new .17 Winchester rimfire.

Can any one else see the lie?



Period.
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Blake
Posted on Sunday, November 10, 2013 - 08:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Patrick,

The complete and utter disconnection from reality never ceases to amaze. The Koz blog author thinks that law abiding gun owners are the threat to be feared, that emotional men will impulse purchase a gun in order to murder their wives.. He has not a clue to reality.

(Message edited by Blake on November 10, 2013)
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, November 10, 2013 - 11:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bill Whittle talks about the genetically defective that must impose their will on others. Just not happy unless they are interfering in other's lives.

Naturally these folk are attracted to politics, since that's how you get the power to run folk's lives, and the ones demanding new restrictions on others from those politicians also have that defect.

"It ought to be a law" comes out of even the most libertine of us, so I suspect that like all things human it's a bell curve.

Btw, there almost always already is a law. If you are bitching about someone else's bad behavior, they're probably already breaking a few.

There's been a major propaganda effort to criminalize guns, to blame all human behavior on firearms, just as before it was demons, ill humors, witches, rock and roll, comic books, video games, and let's not forget, porn!

The concept that "we shouldn't have" military/police etc. weapons is a recent thing, though anti-weapon laws banning possession of swords and other "military" weapons are common in authoritarian regimes for thousands of years.

Simply, the current push in the US against guns is partly Democrat Party/Klan racism, and more and more progressive neo-fascist authoritarianism. ( they want to rule you, and being able to shoot back scares them. For good reason. )

You'll note the sheer nastyness involved in the whole article above and the contempt shown for those different than the author, like....

If you are a freaky history buff who collects Civil War guns and knives...you may keep your stupid antique guns but there is a reason you are single pal

But he throws in an obvious lie, since the following is NEVER going to be allowed in his universe, if he gets his way.

If you are a single woman (for example) and you feel you need a gun for reasonable self defense...please take a good class on how to properly shoot and secure your weapon. We hope you never EVER have to use the weapon but we respect your wishes to protect yourself and would NEVER make a law preventing you from reasonably doing so.

See, absolute BS meant to calm the fears of "normal" folk, and split the opposition to their civil rights violations.

Like the "oh we don't mean hunters" Lie.
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, November 10, 2013 - 11:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

...some crazed gunman shooting a child because he was carrying a concealed bag of skittles?

Why is that familiar? Oh, yeah. Racism.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Wednesday, November 13, 2013 - 10:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

IF THEY CAN'T GET YOUR GUNS.. THEY HIT AMMUNITION...HARD..

While the nation is focused on the Obamacare disaster, a very serious situation is happening under the radar on the 2nd Amendment.
I told you about this last week....
If there is no lead smelter facility left in America, there will be no way to manufacture ammunition in this country without importing lead.
All the Obama administration has to do at that point is use the EPA to stop the import of lead from other countries.
This unprecedented attack by the EPA on our nation's last primary lead smelter is forcing it to close its doors in December.

via Jan Morgan - follow her on Facebook, Twitter and Politichicks

follow the bouncing ball....
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, November 14, 2013 - 09:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"...some crazed gunman shooting a child because he was carrying a concealed bag of skittles?"

That's either ignorance, or a blatant attempt to perpetuate a lie. I'm inclined to believe it is the latter.
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Glitch
Posted on Tuesday, November 26, 2013 - 06:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Philadelphia, Pennsylvania has become the first city in the United States to officially ban the use of 3D printers to manufacture firearms, only six months after a Texas-based company published digital blueprints for a homemade handgun.

The 10-member City Council announced last week that its members unanimously approved a first-of-its-kind measure that makes it illegal for anyone within the city to “use a three-dimensional printer to create any firearm, or any piece or part thereof, unless such person possesses a license to manufacture firearms under federal law.”

http://rt.com/usa/philly-gun-ban-johnson-280/
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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, November 26, 2013 - 07:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So if I lived in Philly and wanted to print grips for my 1911 I wouldn't be allowed to do that. Riiiiiight!
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Wednesday, November 27, 2013 - 12:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

say - where are all the white folk with guns ?

http://downtrend.com/travis/california-begins-conf iscating-legally-purchased-guns/

nod to blazing saddles - but make no mistake - guns will be removed - it is it not from the Crips and the Bloods
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, November 27, 2013 - 07:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sure, but once cleared of any crimes the guns will be returned, right?

Probably not...

http://gunsnfreedom.com/this-is-how-gun-confiscati on-is-happening-and-its-actually-legal/

quote:

The policy is to impound guns, in extreme cases, all guns that officers come across, whether involved in any crime or not, then to refuse to return the guns until a judge issues an order to return them. As the attorney fees needed to obtain a court order can easily be 10 times what the gun is worth, most people do not bother.


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Bob_thompson
Posted on Wednesday, November 27, 2013 - 11:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"As the attorney fees needed to obtain a court order can easily be 10 times what the gun is worth, most people do not bother."

That is true Tom, and I agree.

So for me its keep the good working, inexpensive firearms handy and readily available and all the others you value hidden.

I also believe if we can get a change in congress and especially the executive branch we can again change the gun policies to be more gun owner friendly. As I have stated many times before, vote wisely in the next two elections!
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Sifo
Posted on Wednesday, November 27, 2013 - 12:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've heard these stories going on in Cook county (Chicago area for those not familiar) for a long time. Get pulled over and asked if you have any weapons. Law abiding citizen gives an honest answer about legal guns being transported in the trunk. That's the last you ever see of them. I also know two people who lost all their guns during divorce proceedings. One word from the "terrified" wife, and the cops show up to gather up all the guns which you will never see again.
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