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     Reindog |
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| Fb1 |
From the "When you've lost the Huffington Post" file:
Source, more:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/30/obamacare -deadline-democrats_n_4179505.html | ||
| Fb1 |
Source, more: http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/188896-senate-d ems-vent-to-white-house-over-obamacare | ||
| Fb1 |
Source, more: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-18563_162-57610328/oba macare-enrollments-got-off-to-very-slow-start-docu ments-show/ | ||
| Oldog |
According to Fox news the first day signup total .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. .. was 6 | ||
| Oldog |
I can get on to the state site and found that depending on where I adjusted my income the premiums were all over the place, all but the very highest levels of coverage were poor in terms of service and with hospitals dropping their participation. ( there are only 2 or 3 close in to me ) this cant be good. I would love to get into the grill of the chump in charge and give him an ass chewing #@$^%@#%^#$@%^$@~$$@#^%........ | ||
| Fb1 |
Yeah, but you can't believe what they say on Faux News - they are lying, seditious, teabagging anarchists. CBS, on the other hand, always tells the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. THEY said the first day sign up nationwide total was... . . . . . . . . . . ... six: http://youtu.be/0FytyxnI7Xk | ||
| Oldog |
eah, but you can't believe what they say on Faux News - they are lying, seditious, teabagging anarchists. CBS, on the other hand, always tells the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. sure   } | ||
| Cityxslicker |
6! I had more people sign up under me for Amway when I was in college | ||
| Reindog |
"I just want the dumplings." ObamaCare's Authoritarian Problem By David Harsanyi · Nov. 1, 2013
source: http://patriotpost.us/opinion/21355 | ||
| Fb1 |
This is interesting:
Translation? It's Bush's fault, of course. | ||
| Reindog |
Liberals strangely silent as there is absolutely no defense to support the lying president and his Democrats. (Message edited by reindog on November 02, 2013) | ||
| Sifo |
So I understand that if you are lucky enough to actually get signed in (I still can't even register, and a quick web search makes it clear I'm not alone) and start "shopping" for insurance, it still falls far short. You aren't provided with necessary (or accurate) information that is necessary to make an informed decision. This leaves you having to contact the insurance companies to actually get the needed information. I knew this was true with the information provided when you aren't logged in, but it seems to be the case even after you have provided sensitive information about you and your family to an unsecure web site. Never mind for a second the debacle of none of this actually working as designed. The fact is that our government has spend three years and hundreds of millions of dollars on a design that is lacking in the first place. Then people wonder when some of us are distrustful of the government to run anything well. | ||
| Sifo |
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| Sifo |
Now I see why the lawyers put that statement in the website about having no expectation of privacy with the data you provide. Think they knew ahead of time it was this bad? They just send your information out to other random people. http://blog.heritage.org/2013/11/02/exclusive-heal thcare-gov-users-warn-of-security-risk-breach-of-p rivacy/
Oh, and the issue of the plans being offered being "grossly expensive". Things must really be going well, taking the site down numerous times for "extended maintenance". I thought "maintenance" was something that is done periodically to keep a system working well. What we have here is simply bug fixes (probably poorly tested if past history of these same developers is any indication). http://www.myfoxny.com/story/23861124/deep-sleep-o bamacare-site-goes-offline-for-extended-maintenanc e And, of course we have people who are finding that they can neither keep their insurance, their doctor, or their savings. http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_HEALTH_O VERHAUL_YOURE_CANCELED?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLA TE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2013-11-02-09-44-38 Never fear though, the Democrats have a plan to pass even more laws telling doctors that they are legally bound to treat patients on Medicare/Medicaid. Nothing says freedom like the government stepping in and telling you what you need to do in your private practice. http://masonconservative.typepad.com/the_mason_con servative/2013/11/virginia-democrat-calls-for-forc ing-doctors-to-accept-medicare-and-medicaid-patien ts.html I just can't wait to see what other laws are spawned by this steaming pile of liberal legislation. There really never is any end to it, is there? | ||
| Sifo |
Court battles on ObamaDontCare will come out of the wood work too. It's far from being found "Constitutional". http://washingtonexaminer.com/fed-appeal-panel-say s-citizens-united-might-end-obamacares-hhs-mandate /article/2538368 | ||
| Aesquire |
Since Euthanasia is a major part of the ACA's cost saving initiative, Applying it to the Politicians responsible is the only way to fix the Program. That statement may be in violation of Federal law, and is therefor declared to be a parody, and applies only to Latvian politicians. I admit to moments of inappropriate levity. For example, Nancy Pelosi getting a "vaccine" at the Clinic, and being told she'll find out what's in the injection after she's passed.  | ||
| Ducbsa |
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| Reindog |
Obama is not a liar.  | ||
| Jramsey |
Affordable Boat Act The U. S. government has just passed a new law called: "The Affordable Boat Act" declaring that every citizen MUST purchase a new boat, by April 2014. These "affordable" boats will cost an average of $54,000-$155, 000 each. This does not include taxes, trailers, towing fees, licensing,registration fees, fuel,docking and storage fees, maintenance or repair costs. This law has been passed, because until now, typically only wealthy and financially responsible people have been able to purchase boats. This new law ensures that every American can now have a affordableboat of their own, because everyone is "entitled" to a new boat. If you purchase your boat before the end of the year, you will receive 4"free"life jackets; not including monthly usage fees. In order to make sure everyone purchases an affordable boat, the costs of owning a boat will increase on average of250-400%peryear. This way,wealthy people will pay more for something that other people don't want or can't afford to maintain. But to be fair, people who can't afford to maintain their boat will be regularly fined and children (under the age of 26) can use their parents boats to party on until they turn 27, then must purchase their own boat. If you already have a boat, you can keep yours (just kidding, no you can't). If you don't want or don't need a boat, you are required to buy one anyhow. If you refuse to buy one or can't afford one, you will be regularly fined $800 until you purchase one or face imprisonment. Failure to use the boat will also result in fines. People living in the desert,ghettos, inner cities or areas with no access to lakes are not exempt. Age,motion sickness, experience, knowledge nor lack of desire are not acceptable excuses for not using your boat. A government review board (that doesn't know the difference between the port, starboard or stern of a boat) will decide everything, including; when,where, how often and for what purposes you can use your boat along with how many people can ride your boat and determine if one is too old or healthy enough to be able to use their boat. They will also decide if your boat has out lived its usefulness or if you must purchase specific accessories,(like a $500 compass) or a newer and more expensive boat. Those that can afford yachts will be required to do so,it's only fair. The government will also decide the name for each boat. Failure to comply with these rules will result in fines and possible imprisonment. Government officials are exempt from this new law. If they want a boat, they and their families can obtain boats free, at the expense of tax payers. Unions, bankers and mega companies with large political affiliations ($$$)are also exempt. If the government can force you to buy health care, they can force you to buy a boat....or ANYTHING else.. (Message edited by Jramsey on November 04, 2013) | ||
| Cityxslicker |
cash for clunkers dollars for geezers same same | ||
| Hootowl |
"Perhaps that's the point"  http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB100014240527 02304527504579171710423780446 | ||
| Cityxslicker |
From Kaiser.... a brief view of why they do not understand insurance. "Q. I’m healthy. Why do I have to pay for people who are sick? A. Except for a fortunate few, everyone is likely to develop some kind of health problem or face an accident sometime in their lives. Policy experts and regulators say insurance works best when it spreads risk across a large group of people. Your house may not burn down this year, but you pay for insurance coverage just in case. " Your house is an individual policy, not a group rated policy, nor is it based what your neighbors house is - unless they are a chemical plant ! Your risk is underwritten on the value of loss of replacement cost, upon tax assessed value, square footage, and premium risk exposure of the region for fires (ie - you live away from a fire district in some scenic retreat - expect your rates to be higher) | ||
| Reepicheep |
Dear policy experts and regulators and anyone else who defines "best" for me... •••• you. Thanks! | ||
| Court |
We've had a glimpse at the incompetence of some of these Policy experts and regulators in the past weeks. Sebelius, Lerner, Emanuel. We got a rare appearance from their boss today who has distinguished himself as a lying sack of shit. His personal (not job) approval rating has hit an all time low, fellow democrats are looking for the side of the ship to jump and the talk shows today are featuring snippets featuring . .
He was out today telling us "what I said was . . . " Experts my ass. | ||
| Aesquire |
It would be an interesting argument, if we argued about the desirability of the end product of the ACA, which is socialized medicine. Don't have any doubt, it is what Barack Obama says he wants, and he has said so repeatedly in the only venue in which he actually speaks the Truth. SEIU and Communist/leftist/neomarxist fund raisers. You may argue his motivation is pure greed evil and he lies to all people all the time.... but experience shows that what he says to groups of leftists, and on NPR, ( same thing ) are things he actually DOES. So either he's a committed and lousy leftist, ( lousy, both as a moral judgment on Obama, and to his understanding of things beyond the slogan level ) or he's satan with a suit, pretending to be.... and since there's no way to tell the difference, just assume a lifetime's of indoctrination in neo-marxist thought is in effect here. But enough about the guy who "didn't know" anything was possibly imperfect about his ACA dream. We know he was lying, so skip that crap for now. The ACA is meant to create the disaster ( that we see in progress ) that creates the demand for "single payer" aka Socialized Medicine ( SM for short ), aka Govt. bureaucrat administration of your life. Economists like Paul Krugman are convinced that SM is needed since the semi socialized nature of our system doesn't work, perfectly. IMHO it gets worse the MORE socialized it gets, the more expensive and broken it gets, but I'm not a Nobel Prize winning Economist, so all I understand is 2+2=4. My objection to tax paid "free" medicine, is the nature of the political beast is that they spend more than is possible until they crash everything, in the quest to buy votes. Because of that, with the possible exception of Canada's, most SM systems seem to be far worse than ours. OTOH, many people think it's a grand idea, Including my Father, who, were I King, would put in charge of our SM. As a retired Navy Corpsman ( pronounced core-man, Mr. Presidnet ) who worked for decades as a pharmaceutical detail man, he could probably do a good job. Of course when he retired, it'd go to hell, but it might work for a while. Opinions? Because the Admin. estimated 2+ years ago that this next year 193 million folk with insurance through their employer are going to lose it, and spaz the F*&^ out. I don't know if this will cause a political sea change, or if the desired result ( SM ) will take place, but it's not going to be pretty. So we'd better have an idea of how we want SM to work because odds are, we're either getting it. Or nothing. | ||
| Court |
I think there are other choices. I am seeing pools of wealthy folks forming groups and hiring doctors. 3,700,000 folks' insurance cancelled (with only half the states reporting) since October 1st. My fear is less to do with insurance as it is with the overall economy when suddenly 125,000,000 folks are spending 41% more on health care and this do not have that money to consume in other segments of the economy. Unless they stop paying their electric bill . . I'm fine. But if I were a car dealer, I'd be watching closely. | ||
| Reindog |
I hear you Court and have been wondering the same thing. However, now the "poor" will get free health care and can take out car loans that the government can subsidize with Clunkers II. Cool off, comrade, it's all good. Kinda smells like Atlas Shrugged is really starting to happen. My only goal here is to have one, I mean ONE, Liberal Badwebhead, wake up and admit that this path leads to ruin. |
