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Archive through October 25, 2013Reepicheep30 10-25-13  03:10 pm
         

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Froggy
Posted on Friday, October 25, 2013 - 04:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Reepi, get DRM free maps from OpenStreetMap

http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl/

There are others, and I haven't tried it yet but my maps are starting to get long in the tooth so I'll be doing it soon.
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Oldog
Posted on Friday, October 25, 2013 - 04:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I hope that the zumo users are happy with their units, I purchased a 1450 nuvi some time ago, big screen, semi sun light readable,
sorta works with gloves, not water proof or vibe resistant, but for the price of the zumo I can buy a number of them and a baggie works as a water proof case,
If I kill it get another one.

I can't justify 400$ difference between the car usage and bike usage.
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Ishai
Posted on Friday, October 25, 2013 - 05:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Reepicheep- yes, it has a wonderfull winding road function. What I do is once it plots a route to destination I check the "View Details " option, make sure its winding enough, and if not i press "find another" and check that. and it will take you onto some realy minor roads, at times hardpack dirt. I won't say it's flawless- but it is a lot of fun. I do not use the bluetooth, I went into the options and chose the sun light option, and its quite good in daylight- not excelent but good. Before using it make sure to get the latest maps and updates on line. As stated, I like it a lot.
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Sifo
Posted on Friday, October 25, 2013 - 05:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Nuvi 500 and 550 while they are not considered motorcycle units, are water proof. They work OK with gloves, but the zoom feature is almost impossible to use while on the move. You do have to get an accessory power cord for it to wire to the bike (or just run on the units battery). The cigarette light plus will not last long on a bike, especially a 45 degree v-twin. I confirmed that quite quickly. Otherwise, I probably have close to 40K miles of use on mine. The screen is getting scratched up from sliding a dirty glove across a dirty screen, the paint is worn off the corners, but it's still working reasonably well.

I don't see the ability to search for waterproof units on the Garmin site like they used to have. They really seem to nail bikers on price for some reason. They do, or at least did make waterproof units that weren't marketed to the bikers.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Friday, October 25, 2013 - 06:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Ishai, good info!
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Reepicheep
Posted on Monday, October 28, 2013 - 06:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Huh. Checked my local area, and OpenStreetMap has some things right that Garmin has wrong.

I think that might be the same data NavFree is using.

Wonder how hard it is to convert the data and actually live with it on an old Quest? Time to experiment I suppose... :/
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, October 29, 2013 - 09:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So far so good... isntalled it to the desktop and it works with MapSource.

I'll try feeding it to the quest.

If this works, people should be snapping up cheap quests on the used market. Not as a full fledged GPS, but as a "preplanned route director" device.
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Ratbuell
Posted on Tuesday, October 29, 2013 - 10:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If youre hacking quests...I have a west coast unit that I can't unlock and use on the east coast. Any ideas to unlock it? Garmin was, unfortunately, zero help.
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Cataract2
Posted on Tuesday, October 29, 2013 - 11:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Reep, here's a link for the Garmin OSM maps.

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OSM_Map_On_Garm in/Download

The download is at the bottom. I use the weekly or bi monthly updated ones.

If you have an SD card it's pretty easy to install. Just download the file and unzip it onto your SD Card. You will need to look up the info on your device to find out where on the card it needs to go, but once it's there it should find it and you can activate it.
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, October 29, 2013 - 12:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The Quest probably predates SD cards : D
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, October 29, 2013 - 12:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It doesn't technically predate SD cards, Garmin just chose not to support them. Ok, and I guess they were actually compact flash cards back in those days.. ; )

Rat, that is exactly what the site linked above does... you keep using Mapsource, but you ditch all the Garmin map data, you use that OpenMaps data instead. It looks routable and everything.

I haven't tried pushing it to the quest yet, but I got it as far as pulling it into mapsource, and it looks great so far.

So it's not even really hacking the quest, just using an alternate open source map set, which is fantastic if it works.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Thursday, October 31, 2013 - 09:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thank you Frank! I had no idea the open maps data made it to the point where it would work with an old quest, but it appears it very well might. I have a map and route now loaded to a Quest 1 from that OSM data, with no illegal hacks or cracks.

I'll try it on the way home and see if it gets wonky.

I used Mapsource and it worked perfectly. I tried basecamp, and it's a bit wonky, but I cant figure out if thats basecamp wonky or OSM wonky. Basecamp changed how you modify routes, and its whacked, so I may just have to learn how to use it.

Anyway, I'll start a new thread for this, but it is looking encouraging. DRM free updated map information for old Quests. Meaning that if you don't want a full navigation system, but you do want a weatherproof unit you can use to "help follow a complicated pre-planned route", there may be a $50 option now if you are willing to go the duck tape and bailing wire route (a used Quest).

I'll start a new thread with more detail after I get a bit more figured out.
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