| Author | Message | ||
     Rick_a |
Despite the current shooting being a prime example of gun control fail, it is still being used to push for further restrictions. | ||
| Aesquire |
The Prez's designated liar, Carney, announced Obama will take executive action. That's it. good luck. I've been paying attention a tiny bit and all the usual suspects are milking death to gain power. This all just reinforces my conviction that "gun free zones" are unsafe places, and I will avoid those where I am likely to be caught when I am armed. Hypothetically. Of course. Rick, since when does logic or reason have to do with desire? They desire unopposed power, and they deserve it, so why should your desires, or the law, or history, or truth, have anything to do with them? | ||
| Reindog |
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| Ducbsa |
I like this translation: '"assault weapon” means little more than “gun I want to ban”' http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/358734/cynica l-double-standard-charles-c-w-cooke Also, someone here said that they wanted to be able to buy the same weapons as the Regime let the Mexican drug gangs buy. That can be updated to "be able to buy almost as good as the Regime is sending to Al Qaeda in Syria." | ||
| Reindog |
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| Reindog |
Good editorial by Michael Reagan about how the anti-gun nuts jumped on their bandwagon to ban AR-15s when it was incorrectly reported that one was involved in the Washington Navy Yard massacre. It turned out to be a shotgun. Notice how the MSM didn't quickly blame it on the Tea Party like they did about Tucson? Any guesses why? http://patriotpost.us/opinion/20170 | ||
| Reindog |
This buffoon is drooling to be your next President.  | ||
| Sifo |
It is odd that the shooting at the Navy yard get national attention for days, but 13 people, many of them kids, getting shot in Chicago will probably go unnoticed by most media. They just hose off the basket ball court and continue as normal. It's hard for me to grasp this inconsistent attitude when it comes to inner city violence. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ chi-multiple-people-including-3yearold-shot-in-sou th-side-attack-20130919,0,4108485,full.story | ||
| Rick_a |
Doesn't fit the agenda. It's not about stopping crime or reducing violence. It's about disarming the general law abiding public. My bet is you won't see Obama on the evening news parading them around. | ||
| Ducbsa |
Rick, you nailed it. The gun grabbers don't have the guts to disarm the criminals, so they go for law abiding citizens' guns, hoping they will comply. | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/09/20/this-b- s-of-a-comedy-sketch-mocking-the-mainstream-media- really-isnt-as-far-from-reality-as-you-might-expec t/ I love the AR-15 chart. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/sep/20/ca lifornias-great-gun-grab-states-sweeping-gun-con/ The report itself is full of false information and outright lies. As is this. http://www.wvgazette.com/Opinion/OpEdCommentaries/ 201305300071 | ||
| Reepicheep |
That blaze video is GREAT. So true. It was like Wolf Blitzer trying to cover the Gore loss against Bush. | ||
| Rick_a |
That WV Gazette rant was just aweful. | ||
| Aesquire |
He got in some trouble about it. It's a good representation of the Mantra of the time. The hate just freaking drips off it, eh? This is WHY these people are bad. The point at which being wrong becomes evil is when you hate someone who disagrees with you, Because he disagrees with you. I'll grant that a magic spell that made all the guns in the world go away would reduce gun violence. What they won't grant is with no guns they would be taken as slaves or killed out of hand. I don't hate them for being wrong, but I fear them for their hate. A man who uses hate to gain power is evil. It's almost the definition. People who hate like this are full of fear, and are very dangerous because they don't even realize they could be violent because they deny their own feelings. | ||
| Rick_a |
Taking them all away still wouldn't end violence, which is where effort and focus should be directed if that's the actual intent. | ||
| Sifo |
Taking them all away still wouldn't end violence, which is where effort and focus should be directed if that's the actual intent. There is a strange thought process at work... It doesn't matter how many people are killed by guns, but killing with an AR-15 is intolerable. On a larger scale, it doesn't matter how many people Assad kills, but if he kills people with chemical weapons, we must step in. | ||
| Aesquire |
Yes, the same "thought process" that says it's fine to slaughter 10,000 people but not 100 with poison gas. http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/358817/chemic al-weapons-and-gun-control-jonah-goldberg But the "AR-15" business is not a "strange thought process". It's a deliberate, intentional pre planned attack on your civil rights. Handgun Control Inc. ( now the Brady Campaign to exploit a crippled guy ) wrote the freaking book. 1. Give an object a scary name. 2. Get scary name banned. 3. Next scary name. Simple, effective and based entirely, completely and deliberately on lies. Right now it's "scary name" "Assault Weapon" It a made up name for whatever you want It to be. Period. Popularization of the term "assault weapon" is attributed by many to the 1988 book "Assault Weapons and Accessories in America", written by gun-control activist Josh Sugarmann, and to subsequent public reaction to the January 1989 Cleveland School massacre in Stockton, CA.[29] Sugarmann wrote: Assault weapons—just like armor-piercing bullets, machine guns, and plastic firearms—are a new topic. The weapons' menacing looks, coupled with the public's confusion over fully automatic machine guns versus semi-automatic assault weapons—anything that looks like a machine gun is assumed to be a machine gun—can only increase the chance of public support for restrictions on these weapons.[30][31] The term is highly controversial especially amongst advocates of gun control and gun rights.[32] Gun rights activists consider it a misnomer intended to conflate civilian semi-automatic firearms with military assault rifles. Joseph P. Tartaro of the Second Amendment Foundation wrote in 1994, "One of the key elements of the anti-gun strategy to gull the public into supporting bans on the so-called 'assault weapons' is to foster confusion. As stated previously, the public does not know the difference between a full automatic and a semi-automatic firearm."  9] Robert Crook, executive director of the Coalition of Connecticut Sportsmen, said "the term 'assault weapon,' as used by the media, is a media invention."8] Civilian semi-automatic rifles identified as "assault weapons" are no more powerful than many other semiautomatic rifles legally used for hunting throughout the United States; they do not shoot faster or have greater range.[33] Assault weapons are also sometimes called "black guns" or "black rifles", due to the presence of black plastic parts in the place of wood for stocks and grips.[34] ( I note in passing that THIS wiki listing is a the subject of rapid change and propaganda efforts. It's at least 5 times the size it was a few months ago. Because it's about a LIE. ) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon Other names on the list to steal your civil rights are "Sniper Rifle", ( has a scope ) "Sawed off shotgun", ( any shotgun in a world with saws ) "assassination weapons", ( .22's - which you will be told is the preferred weapon of assassins. makes no difference if any of this is true, after all, so the .22 ban is near last, and by then all the idiots will believe anything we tell them in a Billion$ promotional campaign together with he Communist Party, the Klu Klux Klan, the DNC and the State Media ) etc. etc. Other buzzwords to look out for is "Saturday Night Special" ( used to make cheap guns inaccessible to Negros back in the 1960's ) "too easily concealed" ( smaller than a Checker Cab ) "No legitimate Sporting Purpose" ( might be used to resist ME ) etc. Remember, "Executive Action" is on the way. | ||
| Ducbsa |
Civilian semi-automatic rifles identified as "assault weapons" are no more powerful than many other semiautomatic rifles legally used for hunting throughout the United States The energy of the scary rifle bullet is ~1300 ft-lbs, a 30-.06 is ~2900, 2.23 X as much, but the MSM people aren't big on science. | ||
| Rick_a |
According to the current propaganda: This is a hunting rifle:  This is a deadly sniper rifle:  ...and this is an evil assault rifle:  Of course, if you use a "high capacity clip" in the first, install a flash hider, or use a "shoulder thingy that goes up," it instantly turns into a people killing machine. I know this is all old news, but I just like pics of guns  | ||
| Aesquire |
You have to remember this is from the same people who insisted that Negros ( aka Blacks, aka US Citizens ) just are not really human as a means of justifying owning & selling them as slaves. The FIRST gun control laws in this country were laws to keep those Negros from owning guns. ( because slaves with guns are not long slaves ) The next set of gun control laws was to keep Negros from owning guns, after a long and bloody war that ended the institution of slavery. With the beginning of the 20th century and the rise of "Progressive" movement, the use of racism actually went up, ( as the Progressives are very racist. It's one of the easy ways to cause hate, and hate is power. ) and the Jim Crow laws and other gun control laws went into effect in cities with large Urban black populations and Democrat leaders. ( see, Chicago, Detroit, LA, NYC, ) The facts don't matter. The Increase in crime does not matter, and the dead folk of those "lesser races" that other parts of the Progressive movement were actively practicing genocide on in the name of Eugenics certainly didn't matter, and as you can see, does not matter to this day. After all, "black on black" crime is just a justification for believing them inferior, and a handy means of getting rid of them. Double win for Progressives. Read the works of Sanger, and compare to Himmler. But, it hasn't been all racist motivation in the 20th century, that would be misleading. The need to disarm the peasants is vital when your goal is an authoritarian aristocracy with no spiritual connection to the law, the will of the people, or any Constitutional restraints. That's why Rick's pics of an "AR-15" above are symbols of hatred. Hatred for Our Glorious Leader. Hatred for the ignorant Rednecks that believe in laws, not men. It's a full court press propaganda effort that will not end until you, or they, are dead or in prison. Have no doubts. They have none. | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/345649/fact -free-gun-control-crusade-thomas-sowell | ||
| Fahren |
Thought-provoking op-ed: In the American ‘Bill of Rights’ the 2nd amendment gives Americans the right to bear arms, i.e carry a gun. Tragically, Americans are now in the process of systematically having every one of their other rights taken away from them by kleptocrats. They know that if anyone balks, they can just threaten to take away gun rights and the population will comply with any other rights confiscation. Until such time comes when all rights have been taken away, except the right to own a gun, and then that will be taken away too. The right to own a gun will be the last right the kleptocrats take. In this way, they can take all the rest with very little resistance MORE... | ||
| Rick_a |
Then you've got the NFA during the prohibition era that took advantage of gang violence to pass those series of laws on an ill informed public. The later GCA, while good in intent had way too much extra baggage accompanying it. We surely do not need additional laws governing the sale or manufacturing of firearms. Something should be done with the healthcare system that is apparently ignoring these troubled folks, without going to the ends the current federal government wants to take things. | ||
| Rick_a |
As it pertains to the AR-15: Kali legal "sporting rifle"   "Sniper" rifle  Evil "bullet spraying assault rifle"   This is considered a "sporting shotgun"  This one considered as "assault shotgun"  The latest in exploited news stories, the Remington 870 Hunting/sporting shotgun  Pure evil   All differ by accessories and cosmetic features, mostly. It seems, that to most who would seek to ban these weapons, if a configuration is so ugly few would want one, that makes it okay. They sure don't like those "conspicuously protruding" pistol grips. | ||
| Ducbsa |
Top recruiter: http://armsandthelaw.com/archives/ObamaNRAletter2. jpg | ||
| Aesquire |
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/09/24/kerry-t o-sign-un-arms-treaty-despite-senators-opposition/ The treaty is not quite as represented in this article. It has poison pills for civil rights, in that it controls arms sales and documentation. Your local gun dealer may have to ask the UN of it's ok to sell you a shotgun. ( so you can follow the insane felonious advice of "Just Joe" ) The UN will say no. | ||
| Sifo |
Liberal hypocrisy cracks me up. Almost anything in the hands of a civilian is an Assault Rifle. The same gun in the hands of a cop, is a semiautomatic rifle. It demonstrates that fact that they aren't as stupid as they sound most of the time. It's seems to be done on purpose to mislead folks who don't know better. Of course I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to find out that the semiautomatic rifles being used by the cops were actually fully automatic weapons that actually fit the definition of assault rifle. Orwell much? EDIT: Forgot the linky... NY Times Shows Its Hypocrisy in Calling Police Guns in DC “Semi-automatic Rifles” While Gun Owners Have “Assault Rifles” (Message edited by SIFO on October 09, 2013) | ||
| Aesquire |
It's seems to be done on purpose to mislead folks who don't know better. Yes, that's what I've been saying. It's in the manual from Handgun Control Inc. ( now the Brady Campaign to exploit a crippled guy ) Give it a scary name, get it banned. Next. "Assault Weapon" is a made up name. It's a deliberate lie. It's supposed to sound scary, it's supposed to mislead. It's supposed to make you think that a 100 year old gun is the latest murder/terrorist tool. The Assault is on YOUR civil rights. | ||
| Aesquire |
That is leaving aside the outright LIE that a Remington 740 deer rifle, ( from 1955 ) or a Legal, civilian Armalight copy/clone/variant is a machine gun. "Assault Rifle" has an actual factual definition. It's been discussed here before. It is a selective fire ( either one shot per trigger pull, semi-auto mode, AND a multiple shot per trigger pull Auto mode.) MACHINE GUN that uses a lower powered cartridge than a WW1-2 Battle Rifle. ( which ALSO has an actual definition. ) Unless you have a specific Federal Permit, since 1934 no citizen has legally owned an Assault rifle. ( though some police and most of the military use/carry them daily ) So yes, the NYT may be ignorant of the facts, may be ignorant of the law, but they did indeed deliberately lie to all of their customers. Why? Ideology. The NY Times is leftist, but more importantly, they are Aristocratic. The Peasants Must Not Be Armed. ( the boss? he has armed guards. Because He's Important. You are not. ) | ||
| Rick_a |
Yesterday afternoon a Bosnian man related the story of his countrymen who were told to turn in their weapons in exchange for peace and security...and were shot dead in turn. He believes Americans are too complacent and naive in thinking that such things could not happen here. He told me any time leaders mention safety and security as a reward for public disarmament that we should start to get very worried. |
