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86129squids
| | Posted on Friday, October 04, 2013 - 01:03 am: | 
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X, obtaining a license grants you a privilege to drive. The idea that it is a right is completely wrong. Remove your emotions from it and study the facts some more, friend.
Once you gain the privilege to drive via licensing, yes, you then pay for vehicle registration and insurance. As mentioned above, screw it up and your privilege is revoked.
Anyhoo, as to Joe's OP... 
I just installed a LOUD horn salvaged from a Yugo on my Beemer, and today bought a Stebel to wire up on my GF's Toyota.
I still REALLY want to do honest to GOD train horns on all our vehicles.
Asshats driving while futzing with their FRICKIN CEL PHONES are multiplying daily. Not long ago I was standing on a street corner waiting to cross, and saw an old lady turning right while yakking on her phone and eating a damn soft serve cone at the same time. I just stared at her. |
Blake
| | Posted on Friday, October 04, 2013 - 06:02 am: |
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Semantics?
No one is claiming that driving is a "fundamental" right.
Yet even fundamental rights may be revoked due to criminal conviction.
Driving is no different.
Definition informs:
priv·i·lege (noun)
1. a special right, advantage, or immunity granted or available only to a particular person or group of people. |
Aesquire
| | Posted on Friday, October 04, 2013 - 09:26 am: |
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Squids, a lady at work was "driving" her truck, drinking her coffee with one hand, talking on the cell phone with the other, and had her seat belt off and sliding door open. Lucky she was at slow speed on a city residential street when a knee twitch, lack of support, and fundamental ••••••• ejected her from her truck leaving it to slowly crash into a parked car.
No one was hurt, but even the Union just face palmed on that one.
Blake is right, as are several others.
Go before a judge and insist you have a "right" to drive. He may laugh, lecture, or ask you to leave. He won't agree, and you won't win.
Years of working late nights at the Kwik-E-Mart with a police scanner on ( gotta know if the Zombie Apocalypse is on ) taught me a couple of things.
1. people are stupid.
2. High speed chases don't end well.
3. half the folk on the highway after midnight are legally drunk.
4. An hour after last call, a substantial proportion of folk pulled over for suspicion of DWI don't have their license anymore.
Seriously. |
Xdigitalx
| | Posted on Friday, October 04, 2013 - 10:26 am: |
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Of course, I play along with the establishment as well as most every other upstanding citizen,... I still believe it is my right to drive as I see fit. My license grants me the right to drive. I am only going with the flow like the rest of us here in jersey. We have no choice. everyone wants a "Mr. Rogers Neighborhood" Those so-called privileges you speak of are different in every state. I despise the DMV, they have too may rules and should be abolished.
Obtaining a DL itself should carry liability ins automatically, more than liability Insurance should be an option. DL costs would quadruple or more but every licensed driver would have insurance. |
Torquehd
| | Posted on Friday, October 04, 2013 - 10:46 am: |
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the funny thing is, now that I live in washington where it's illegal to talk and drive, i just text and drive instead because no one can see me texing in my lap. which is more "dangerous", but easier to get away with.
if you're an average American male and you can't talk or text and drive at the same time, you might need to check and make sure it's still down there. unless you grew up before the cellphone age, and then you're grandfathered-in. |
Aesquire
| | Posted on Friday, October 04, 2013 - 12:27 pm: |
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I suppose I'm grandfathered, since The first time I used a "car" phone ( calling for an Ambulance at a martial arts tournament ) I had to deal with an operator and stand by the car for the cord to reach. Seriously.
So instead of breaking a stupid law that is based on the idea that you can't drive and have a conversation at the same time... ( and some people can't ) you drive even more distracted?
Consider yourself mocked, twice. Once for admitting to a crime on the internet ( assuming it's a crime in the Peoples Republic of Washington ) and second for questioning the manhood of people smarter than you.
There's a reason the anti-texting law in NY has a girls name attached to it. Whole car full of teens died in fiery crash. Dead cute teen girls are great propaganda.
While I tend libertarian on the issue, even I have to admit that the odds on you killing the folk in your way while texting are pretty good.
I also admit that some can get away with not paying attention, Sometimes for years! or the streets would run with blood all day. The same is true of drunks. It's actually rare that Drunks kill people. Depending on where you live it may even be below the daily murder rate. ( it's about even, locally )
In fact I'm constantly amazed how few people die every day, locally, considering my opinion of their common sense and driving skills, but I drive professionally.
And I'm sarcastic and cynical.
My buddy who trains, and rates, school bus drivers was astonished to give a guy a 100% on his driving test. I asked, and he rates ME at 75%.  Says I trust the equipment too much, and use too much of the available traction. Also claims that's a good score. ( he drives like a Little Old Lady in a van. Like the one from Pasadena on a bike. Go figure. )
So, yeah, I'm one to talk. |
Xdigitalx
| | Posted on Friday, October 04, 2013 - 01:47 pm: |
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I would love to carry paintball gun while riding... shoot the cars that have text offenders as I see them. (only the sides or rear, never the glass) with some bio-degradable ink that washes off with water... and doesn't damage the paint or dent to car. Embarrass them for a day or so. And would let others know who they are.... for future reference. Kinda like that sex offender map... but realtime. lol
I had the same idea for DUI offenders but in that case... I proposed a real DUI tattoo on their forehead. (for the multi-offenders or who caused a tragedy or death) |
Sifo
| | Posted on Friday, October 04, 2013 - 02:12 pm: |
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i just text and drive instead because no one can see me texing in my lap.
I pick up on texters a 1/4 mile away all the time. It's easy to confirm when you get close. Even easier at night with the glow on their faces. |
Sifo
| | Posted on Friday, October 04, 2013 - 02:16 pm: |
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BTW, I scored 99% on my school bus test. I lost one point backing into a parking space for being over 1 foot from the line. I could have backed up a couple more inches after getting out and looking, but I didn't need to stroke my ego with the possibility of going over the line and failing completely. |
Ratbuell
| | Posted on Friday, October 04, 2013 - 02:29 pm: |
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Maryland's law is not a no-phone law...its a no-handheld / no-text law.
Use an earbud.
Use Bluetooth.
Just don't hold it in your hand. And don't text. |
Torquehd
| | Posted on Friday, October 04, 2013 - 02:32 pm: |
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Yes, texting is more distracting, and that's my point. (but not nearly as distracting as texting while riding...)
I understand the concept. It's the same manner of thinking that prohibits soldiers in large FOB's in Afghanistan from having a round in the chamber unless the threat level is "FPCON red". I understand that there are complete idiots in this world who should neither be trusted with a gun or a car. However, there are also people who are competent at being human.
Ew, I just realized I'm getting engaged in an online disagreement. That's rather highschool-girlish of me. Sorry folks.
(Message edited by torquehd on October 04, 2013) |
86129squids
| | Posted on Friday, October 04, 2013 - 02:43 pm: |
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X, man, I'd LOVE to see paintballs with BRIGHT DAYGLO ink deployed on all these f@*cktards I see on the roads nowadays...
Now I kinda wish someone would do a Mad Max re-do... gotta jones for some good sci-fi dystopian cinema. Oh well. |
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