| Author | Message | ||
     Pdxs3t |
Back in March I was able to pickup a Ruger 10/22 Tactical. And over the last several month’s I’ve been slowly making it a rifle that is unique as possible but, be a well thought out functioning plinker. Here is where I am at now. This pic is mocked up with a Magpul AFG2 and a Check Riser. What do you think Yeh or Neh? Neither have actually been installed yet. The other things I have planned. Ruger RDS front/rear backup flip up sights. Primary Arms 3X magnifier. Burris 30mm flip to side magnifier mount. Burris 30mm cantilever mount. Lasermax Genesis red laser. And lastly, Nebo 5569 ProTec Elite HP190 rail mounted light  | ||
| Hybridmomentspass |
all that matters is is YOU like it | ||
| Reepicheep |
IHMO, it looks like it's trying too hard... a bit too much like a "glue something anywhere" build. I know those are fairly functional parts, but it just looks a little desperate. I'd ditch the cheek riser at a minimum. And personally, all the "sticky up parts" feel like they would forever be catching and dragging on things. So maybe get that scope more flush mounted, it's not like you still have iron sites backup you need to clear. But I like a sleeker more streamlined approach, and that's a personal preference. IMHO... | ||
| Mnrider |
I have that AFG on my 15-22,works great and looks cool. | ||
| Rick_a |
If you bed the stock it can really enhance accuracy. Mine had a great trigger and match barrel but did not shoot much better than stock, until I put it in a well bedded stock that free floated the barrel. It's tactical without trying to be tacticool, I think:  | ||
| Mnrider |
I'm no expert but the angled fore grip allows your elbow to rest in a natural position. If you can't move the sight down and back the cheek riser is a must. | ||
| Pdxs3t |
@Rick...That is a sweet stock! Good looking 10/22! I bet its a fun shooter. My sweetie confiscated the Tac I've been working on. I had it for about a month. Then I made the mistake of letting her hold it.  She gave her approval on the AFG2 and check Rest. Taped them both to the rifle for fitment and feel today. Both work well on the rifle. And when I can get the backup sights and the magnifier. I think things will balance out a little more looks wise on the rifle. There is some internal stuff I want to do to the rifle too. I want to get the outside squared away first. Then get it on the range and dialed in. .22 LR is still in very short supply in my area though. So what little .22 LR I have sit's until I can actually replenish it. I run AFG2's on my Mini Thirty and Mini-14. My left wrist only bends so far. And with the grip, I'm actually able to hold the rifles. Here's a link to a new AFG by Stark Equipment. I'd like to try one out one day. Stark Equipment SE-5 Express Grip (Message edited by pdxs3t on August 13, 2013) | ||
| Aesquire |
A couple questions, a couple comments. Is that the stock "Ruger tactical" stock? With the barrel band? Are the rails mounted? And how? Which scope is that? Zero-mag red dot? Comments. Ergo's are ergo's, fit is fit, we're all different..... go with the helmet that fits. Period. Same with grips. The point of contact between human and machine is the one you need to work. So... If you like the AFG2, and have one on your other guns, then major thumbs up! Makes me want to try one. If that's the barrel band stock, or not, the side rails & covers certainly offer some tacticool, and place to install cup holders. I'd usually forgo the side rails in the interest of slimness, figuring them unused in normal use, and add bulk & mass. Bottom rail a must, and as pictured has room for a bipod. A detachable one, of course, A basic bench model.... and I keep meaning to get one with legs tall enough for seated fire. I's also consider Saving the original stock for semi imaginary collectors value...if the rails aren't mounted yet. ( You DID save the Box? Right? ) You could pick a nice one with the right cheek height for optics, as many rails as you like, and folding, adjustable as you please & local customs allow. If you keep the existing stock, the cheek piece is perfect. You could lower the optic a lot, but I think your intention is to have AR height setup for maximum versatility, and availability of parts.......... which while geeky, makes total sense.  | ||
| Loki |
I like that Stark AFG! That would be perfect for my Archangel stocked mini14. Been tweaking my Ruger Charger as of late. Dropped a matched Power Custom trigger group into it. If ya breathe to hard on the trigger, it goes bang. Talk about crisp pull with no creep in it. Now looking to build a 10-22 from the ground up. | ||
| Thumper74 |
I'm not being critical... What's with the flash suppressor/muzzle breaks on .22 rifles? | ||
| Pdxs3t |
@Aesquire: I still have its original box. No perm mods have been made to the rifle. I'm using that factory stock that came with the little Tac. The Quad Rail is made by Leapers UTG. I've included a pic bellow. It replaces the barrel band. And is held in place with 4 hex screws at the front. Then its secured to the receiver with 4 slotted screws using the factory holes in the receiver.  Its actually a very well made rail system that mounted up with no mods at all to the stock (some stocks my require slight modification). Its also rock solid, with no movement what so ever. I could have gone with a chassis system (Nordic or Troy) but that is a big cost. $300+. I also wanted to try something different. The Red Dot is a Walther P 22 1x. Cost was $59. So far I'm impressed. No range time with it yet so, it could turn in to total junk. Almost all the reviews were very good. And since I'm doing this on a very slim budget. It will do for now. The height is needed on the optic because I'll be installing a set of Ruger RDS flip up sight's for backup along with a Primary Arm's 3x, flip to side magnifier. By the time I'm done. It will be a fun little shooter. I have my first, stainless 10/22 standard I bought back in 1987 that has a vintage Simmons Whitetail 3x9 40mm scope and Hogue Overmold stock. It will stay in conventional form. No need to mess with it really. Its proven to be accurate time and time again. (Message edited by pdxs3t on August 14, 2013) | ||
| Pdxs3t |
I should have said no perm mods made yet. I will have to drill a few holes for the AFG2 picatinny rail and the cheek rest. | ||
| Fb1 |
What, no props for the dude that found your Tac for you?!?  | ||
| Aesquire |
Cool, thanks, I like it! Let us know how you like the red dot, etc. The Box thing....... A buddy of mine had his father pass away, and brought a pile of stuff, including a couple of shotguns back to NY from CA. He was a little strapped for cash, so offered me his Dad's Browning 20ga. Side by side. ( Japanese manufacture, English style stock, single trigger, and sweet shooting ) I offered him $100 more than going rate with the proviso he could buy it back when he wanted it... but I did get to shoot it, meanwhile. So off we go the local guns shop, where the nice salesman looks in 3 different books, scratched his head, and asked, "Do you have the original box?". Answer, no. He'd dumped it to make room for furniture and such in his van. Salesman tells us it's a $500 gun by the book, in Very good condition, but if we had the Box, it'd be $900! We/re still ribbing each other about $400 cardboard boxes. Now the truth is usually the cardboard box on a 10+ year old gun is worth about $100, more or less, depending on rarity, usually less. A Ruger 10/22 box is probably worth at least $50 to a collector, if it's a model he didn't have. ( sold with gun, mind you, there's a whole different market for just boxes ) An original box for a Colt Lightning? I don't want to know. It's a collector thing, and almost never worth what the book says, but it's a real consideration when selling a gun, as it offers provenance and collector value. On an older gun with a wood presentation case, it can really crank up the value at auction. Especially with matched dueling pistols w/box, bullet mold & tools. On a new 10/22, it's not much, but in a few decades it makes a difference. Looks like a righteous plinker. My favorite shooting sport. I have this rationalization for this, as I believe a 12 oz pop can to be the perfect target in many ways. It's reactive, and can be set on a log, the ground, or hung by a string. Feedback makes training more fun. It costs 5 cents in NY. It's just the right size for a vital area on most larger game, or varmint. So, the range you can reliably hit a pop can is the proper range to limit yourself to when hunting. | ||
| Pdxs3t |
Shot of my 1987 Standard 10/22...Been a good little rifle. I've always hit what I've aimed at with it. I was really surprised, when I got back into shooting a little over a year ago. After being away from it for 16 years. All the things available for the 10/22 was mind blowing. Barrel, stocks, sights, etc. Awesome stuff! One of the reason's I've gone a little goofy with my Tactical 10/22 (its actually now my wife's but I'll still claim it). It has a Hogue Overmold Rubber Stock, vintage 1987, Simmons Wide View Whitetail 3x9 44mm (thought it was 40mm) Scope, Weaver Tip Off Rings, Federal Ordnance Flash Hider, Uncle Mike's QD Sling Loops and a Uncle Mike's Nylon Sling. And the BX-25 factory 25rd magazine. Gotta love those. Back in 1987, we only dreamed of a high cap factory magazine. At some point I'd like to put on the Williams Ace In The Hole Sight Set with Picatinny Base. And a 1/2 - 28 threaded barrel adapter, so I can install a better looking stainless bird cage flash hider.  | ||
| Pdxs3t |
Oh yeah, not only did Ferris and "D" help out with the Tactical. Its all Ferris's fault I even got back into shooting again! He had to take me to the range a little over a year ago, to let me try out a few toy's. | ||
| Fb1 |
Its all Ferris's fault... Yeah, well, this is all YOUR fault:   | ||
| Pdxs3t |
Yes my brother, it sure is. Consider it payback for 1996! Them be some good looking rifles. Will be cool to see where you take both build wise. And it will be even cooler, when we can meet up again with all the toys! | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
I'm sorry, I can't hear you over the sound of how classy I am. Taste the walnut classyness!  | ||
| Pdxs3t |
Ah, a Mannlicher stock 10/22....Nice! | ||
| Pdxs3t |
I just showed this to my wife. She is all for this cheek rest instead of the other one I mocked up in the pic. That makes me happy, happy, happy! Less work for me and it will still work well and look good.  Beartooth Products Comb Rasing Kit Black | ||
| Gregtonn |
As to the top pic. Crawl through the mud once with that thing and you'll be cleaning all the nooks and crannies for months. Just an observation. G | ||
| Pdxs3t |
@Gregtonn: What? If you crawl through the mud with any firearm, you'll be spending a good amount of time cleaning it afterwards. AR, AK, Mini, M1A, etc. I wondering how often you crawl through the mud with a firearm? I'm 48 years old, and have been shooting since I was 14. And as a civilian, I have yet to take a mud bath with any firearm I've owned or shot. And if I ever had to take a mud bath with the little stainless 10/22. I'd pull it apart, hose it off, clean and oil and put it back together. Cleaning time wouldn't be much more then normal. | ||
| Gregtonn |
Pdx3t, You call it a tactical weapon. Do you know what a tactical situation can entail? Mud is the least of it and hoses often aren't handy. After several days in the bush, mud can be hardened to the point where a power-washer may not get it all. My point is that a "tactical" weapon that doesn't function well in a tactical environment is nothing more than a show piece. Sorry if I've offended you. G | ||
| Gregtonn |
For the record; I was shooting before you were born and I'm not just speaking as a civilian. G | ||
| Pdxs3t |
Actually Ruger call's the little rifle a Tactical. Maybe you should take that up with Ruger instead of busting my balls over it? Ruger's Website 10/22 Tactical | ||
| Pdxs3t |
@gregtonn: Not too sure why you decided to jump into a thread and start a pissing match. Was it to show your expertise over another? Did you want to discredit someone today? Does that make you feel good? I have to speak as a civilian about my experience, since I never served in the Military. That is why I used the word, the way I did. I guess I was wrong for using that word too maybe? The thread was created to show off a little .22LR that I'm putting together. And as you can see in the thread. There are others that also own the little 10/22. At no time did I call the little rifle a battle rifle. Or say I could drag it through the yuck for weeks on end, without cleaning it. And expect it to function with no issue's. Will I ever drag it through the yuck for weeks on end. No, I won't. And as I stated. As a civilian, I have never done that with a firearm and probably never will. | ||
| Gregtonn |
Pdx3t, Not a pissing match. You asked for opinions and I gave mine. I just don't care for all the gee gaws. And yes I think the 10/22 is a fine rifle. It was the first rifle my brother and I owned. It was always kept clean as is the case with any weapon I have ever had. G | ||
| Aesquire |
Plinker. For informal target practice, often with improvised targets. Had a great time testing different ammo on a case of undrinkable Gennesse Cream Ale. So Skunky Buzzards fled when you opened it. Yes, Skeet has more glamour, Quail & Dove more tradition, and Waterfowl more opportunity to spend silly money. A Safari in a distant land is often a once in a lifetime dream, no matter if it's sheep in Iraq, Hippo in Africa, or Bear in Alaska. But practicing your skills on dirt clods and beer cans is far cheaper and hones the hand-eye coordination with as much fun as 1000 yard gong ringing with a .338 Lapua. And will help if that's your thing, too. While you could, in an emergency, hunt any criiter on the Continent up to Bear/Bison/nilgai size,( A .22 just doesn't have the penetration for those. I've seen 30-30 silvertips not have enough penetration for Grizzly. THAT was exciting. ) ........ I personally draw the line just around/below Coyote..... Although it's top choice for deer harvesting on the local Reservation. Head shots, of course. This is the next accessory I'm looking at. http://inteliscopes.com/ | ||
| Pdxs3t |
@gregtonn: Any firearm, that is drug through the mud for a day, will need extensive cleaning afterwards. But how many of us civilian’s actually crawl through the mud all day long with a weapon? Your comment was meant to be nothing more then a snide comment. Because you didn’t like my use of the word “Tactical” in the heading of the thread. And that is clarified in your 2nd post. You went on, to ask a question in a very condescending way, when you asked if I even knew what a tactical situation was. As if I was some sort of moron, want to be mall ninja. Oh yeah, then you went on to offer your definition of what “Tactical” is. Just an FYI here is what the dictionary has to say. So in reality, the little 10/22 could be used in a tactical situation. I don’t see your definition listed anywhere at all? Tac·ti·cal [tak-ti-kuhl] adjective 1.) of or pertaining to tactics, especially military or naval tactics. 2.) characterized by skillful tactics or adroit maneuvering or procedure: tactical movements. 3.) of or pertaining to a maneuver or plan of action designed as an expedient toward gaining a desired end or temporary advantage. 4.) expedient; calculated. 5.) prudent; politic. But you had to slam for the use of the word “Tactical”. Even though, that is what the little rifle is actually called by Ruger. Not something I just made up, all on my own because I thought it was cool. Then you had to toss in how you were shooting before I was born, not only as a civilian but in some sort of military capacity too? Well good for you! In my 48 years and 34 years of shooting as a civilian. I’ve never crawled through the mud all day long with any of my firearms. Whether they were hunting rifles, actual “Tactical” rifles, or plinking rifles. So I have no worry about my little mall ninja 10/22 performing well under normal situation’s. And if by chance I have to use it to help fight off the zombie horde’s. I’m sure it will do ok! (Message edited by pdxs3t on August 15, 2013) |
