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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Thursday, July 11, 2013 - 09:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.shinola.com/shop/therunwell47-leather-w atch-s0111.html
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Brumbear
Posted on Thursday, July 11, 2013 - 09:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Must be a union watch for that price
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Gbackus
Posted on Friday, July 12, 2013 - 09:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's a handmade luxury watch, cheaper than movados which is much lesser quality of a watch.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Friday, July 12, 2013 - 09:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sorry... those are ugly.
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Bbbob
Posted on Friday, July 12, 2013 - 09:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not as pricey as these...

http://www.rgmwatches.com
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Froggy
Posted on Friday, July 12, 2013 - 09:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Man those things are ugly and expensive. My current watch was made in Japan, and looks badass

http://www.tokyoflash.com/en/watches/kisai/polygon /

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Bluzm2
Posted on Friday, July 12, 2013 - 11:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Right from the back of the watch - " Built in Detroit U.S.A Movement with Swiss Made Parts"
A little slight of hand there?
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Gbackus
Posted on Friday, July 12, 2013 - 11:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Maybe no one here is really into watches, but there only two places that provide kinetic driven mechanical movements(unless you count cheap knockoff shit out of china). Japan and switzerland. And no one's shelling out $10k+ for movements coming out of japan.
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Gbackus
Posted on Friday, July 12, 2013 - 11:37 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

But I guess it's OK for an "american sportbike manufacturer" to have a frame made in italy and suspension coming from japan.
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Cataract2
Posted on Friday, July 12, 2013 - 11:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'll stick with.



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Thumpthump
Posted on Friday, July 12, 2013 - 11:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If its American made, why is it 47mm and not 1.8503937 inches? I guess it wouldn't sound as cool.
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1313
Posted on Friday, July 12, 2013 - 12:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Shit, even the first Buell accessory watch said Japan on the back... I know as I'm still wearing mine!

What good does bitching about country of origin of items on the internet do anyways?

If it truly bothers you that much, why not do something productive with that energy instead of bitching on the internet?
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Froggy
Posted on Friday, July 12, 2013 - 12:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

If its American made, why is it 47mm and not 1.8503937 inches?




That is because metric is the preferred standard


quote:

In 1988, Congress passed the Omnibus Trade and Competitiveness Act, which designates "the metric system of measurement as the preferred system of weights and measures for United States trade and commerce." Among many other things, the act requires federal agencies to use metric measurements in nearly all of their activities, although there are still exceptions allowing traditional units to be used in documents intended for consumers.




http://www.unc.edu/~rowlett/units/usmetric.html
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Slaughter
Posted on Friday, July 12, 2013 - 12:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

47mm = 0.000233635568 Furlongs
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Firstbuell
Posted on Friday, July 12, 2013 - 01:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

wait!

are those Kentucky or Imperial furlongs?
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Mnrider
Posted on Friday, July 12, 2013 - 01:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How can you say that watch is ugly,it doesn't have any rainbows or glitter on it, it's just handsome and functional.
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Buelliedan
Posted on Friday, July 12, 2013 - 02:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The name just sounds wrong to me. Shinola.

Isn't there some saying about Sh!t and Shoinola?
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Ducbsa
Posted on Friday, July 12, 2013 - 05:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I stopped wearing a watch after Capt America threw his away in Easy Rider.
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Azxb9r
Posted on Friday, July 12, 2013 - 05:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I like the retro aircraft gauge look...it is the name that I am having trouble with.
The only other time I have heard the word shinola used was in a reference of not knowing it from something else...
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Whisperstealth
Posted on Friday, July 12, 2013 - 06:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I too like the looks. I've seen much more expensive watches that I thought looked bad.
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Glitch
Posted on Friday, July 12, 2013 - 06:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I stopped wearing a watch after Capt America threw his away in Easy Rider.

Back when I worked for Hubbell, I was stressed out most of the time it seemed.
Ann had me go see a doctor, I agreed because, Ann.
When I was talking to the doctor, he noticed I had stopped to look at my watch several times during our talk.
I hadn't noticed until he said something.
He says to me, Dave, let's try an experiment.
Take off your watch, and give it to me, you can have it back in two weeks when you come back for your follow up.
Confused, I asked him why, he said it was just an experiment, and if I was too disoriented after a couple of days, I could come back and get my watch, no problem, but to please, not just put on another without letting him know.
After the first couple of days, I was kind of disoriented, and felt "naked".
But I stuck with it wanting to know more about this experiment.
After two weeks I went back, the doctor handed me back my watch, and asked Ann if she had seen any improvement in my stress levels.
She said yes, and what a difference! I had become more patient, and relaxed.
Then the doctor said some people get stressed out when too much of their lives are seemingly dependent on how much time has gone by, or how much time they have left before something is due etc...
I've not worn a watch since.
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Friday, July 12, 2013 - 09:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They also make bicycles with frames manufactured in Wisconsin
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Bandm
Posted on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 09:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Spiderman
Posted on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 09:29 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

and the Detroit Hate continues...

But sitting on the outside looking in is much more comfortable than actually doing something or coming here and seeing what is happening here for yourself.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 09:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My current watch was made in Japan, and looks badass

Geek gimmick much?

(Message edited by pwnzor on July 13, 2013)
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Saturday, July 13, 2013 - 01:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

and the Detroit Hate continues...

Not here Spidey, your "Detroit Sunrise" is my computer wallpaper & I'll be having a huge one to hang in the house when we get moved.
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, July 14, 2013 - 09:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

While the Kisai is certainly a gimmick watch, so were the first LED ones, that needed 2 hands to tell time.

Or 3 in the SNL ad.

I see Shinola sells make American Bikes, too.

Obviously a company founded by rebels with attitude. I like it. They seem to know the difference between Shinola..................... and want you to too.

Once upon a time, in bicycles it was the "english racers" that were supreme. Reynolds, the tubing maker, was making butted tubing, ( drawn thinner in the middle, thicker on the ends where it was to be brazed ) and the Brits had a bit of a head start on ( for it's day ) high tech. Then the French, and Italians held the top spots in light, fast machines. Japan after the war took great effort to improve quality, and by the 1990's was fully the equal of the finest Italian makers, but America.....

America for years had waterpipe frames and crudely welded joints. Schwinn made the big break through in tech with it's Paramount line built with butted tubes and hand brazed the classic European way.

Today, there are dozens of custom and semi-production American bike makers that equal, and often exceed the quality, precision, and lightness of the finest Italian bikes. American designs & techniques in mountain biking especially lead the world, and US makers with a tradition in Space Age and advanced military tech make bikes straighter, faster, and better than anyone in the world.

The Schwinn water pipe crap is long gone, and Chinese crap dominates the low end market. ( including at Schwinn, a few acquisitions down the road )

American Bikes Rule.

( Full disclosure, I own a Stowe Rhino, a hand made fillet brazed bicycle made in E. Rochester NY. It's actually one of the prototypes for a Vermont Paramedic bicycle squad ..... in appropriately enough, "Vermont Camo". It looks like a cow. ( White with black spots....... fading to pink at the BB ))

I see no reason that Detroit can't make watches the equal of anywhere else, and if it's Switzerland you have to go to to get little gears? Start a little gear company, and compete. Americans can do it.

I love RGM watches, but, alas, beyond my means. Interesting company history, deliberate continuation of a proud heritage, and fine craftsmanship.

I'm wearing a Timex Expedition.
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, July 14, 2013 - 09:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

P.S. the United States Officially went Metric in 1895.

We just never bothered.
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Bluzm2
Posted on Sunday, July 14, 2013 - 09:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Glitch, I did the same thing years ago.
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Slaughter
Posted on Sunday, July 14, 2013 - 10:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Set yourself free, get rid of your watches, but more importantly get rid of your televisions!
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Bandm
Posted on Sunday, July 14, 2013 - 03:07 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Aes your history of Schwinn and lightweight bikes in general is incorrect.

Some copy and paste:

Arnold, Schwinn & Company was incorporated in Chicago in 1895, during the boom in bicycle sales of the 1890's. At that time bicycles were a fashionable but expensive mode of transportation for adults. Arnold, Schwinn & Co. originally produced standard light adult models weighing 19 to 24 pounds, and priced from $100 to $150, a lot of money in those days.

In time bicycles became less expensive, but by the end of World War I automobiles had taken their place as the popular form of transportation. Bicycles began to serve more as vehicles for children, which led to the development of heavier and sturdier models. From the 1920's until 1938 Arnold, Schwinn & Co. became primarily a producer of heavy-duty juvenile bicycles.

In 1938, most likely in response to European competition, Arnold, Schwinn & Co. reintroduced fine, lightweight adult bicycles to its product line. The three new models were the Paramount, the Superior, and the New World.

http://sheldonbrown.com/schwinn-braze.html

Many baby boomers grew up on, or dreamed of owning a Schwinn bicycle. Shrewd marketing aimed at kids through Captain Kangaroo, Boys Life and various comic books left us craving a steady stream of Schwinn design breakthroughs including balloon tire 26" cruisers, 20" Sting Rays, and multi-speed 27" Varsities and Continentals. But instead of Schwinn's magic rolling on into the bike boom of the early seventies, their unique "electro-forged" (E/F) frames--the basis of our earlier favorites--were suddenly perceived as heavy, and fell from grace with maturing young riders. The steady infiltration of European and high-quality Japanese lightweight lugged frames doomed the E/F frames that made Schwinn famous. Never mind that some of the new "lightweight" lugged frames weighed as much as a Schwinn; it was trendy to own a bicycle with a foreign name and a lugged frame.

http://sheldonbrown.com/varsity.html

If you look at the Shinola website you will see that they are using "Schwinn" framesets.

The heart and soul of a Shinola bicycle begins in the legendary Waterford Precision Cycles factory in Wisconsin, where our frames and forks are individually handcrafted by experts using double-butted cro-moly steel

http://www.shinola.com/shop/bicycles/the-runwell-b icycle.html

The Schwinn Paramount represents the cultural roots of Waterford. For decades America’s leading competition and custom bike, the Paramount represented the ultimate aspiration of every young American racer and bike builder.

http://waterfordbikes.com/w/culture/paramount/

Waterford Precision Cycles is a small bicycle manufacturer based in Waterford, Wisconsin. The company is operated by Richard Schwinn, formerly of Schwinn Bicycle Company, and business partner Marc Muller. Schwinn (great-grandson of Ignaz Schwinn, who founded Schwinn Co. in 1896) was vice president of production for Schwinn Co., and Muller worked for Schwinn as a designer of the company's hand-crafted Paramount racing bikes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterford_Precision_ Cycles

I restore bicycles as a hobby and have a 1969 Schwinn Paramount that I bought used in 1972 and 10 other Schwinns from 1940 to 1974, as well as several bicycles of different brands, current, classic, and antique.
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, July 14, 2013 - 10:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I stand corrected.

I have unfairly dissed American industry in the 19th & 20th century.... I have no excuse, since I is part of that. Realized I was full of it on that on the re read a few minutes ago.

Yes, Every one wanted a Paramount. Schwinns were always the best, If I was going to pick on someone, I shoulda picked on Sears.... despite having several Sears bikes, and even adding rocket power & go-cart motors to them....
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K12pilot
Posted on Sunday, July 14, 2013 - 10:46 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I haven't worn a watch in 6 years.
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86129squids
Posted on Monday, July 15, 2013 - 12:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I still have the Texas Instruments LED digital watch from when I was 8ish years old...

Dang thing always seemed to run fast. Anyhoo, if I put new batteries in it and found a suitable band, I might wear it again.
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