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     Oldog |
Why am I reminded of the Heath Ledger line in the Dark Knight, "What this town needs is an enema" Lois Lerner needs to pursue another career One of my concerns is that the house is being plugged up with this crap, Her silence seems to indicate guilt. | ||
| Reindog |
John Gotti and Barack Milhouse Obama have similar management styles.  | ||
| Fb1 |
Well, she did both: She testified, and THEN pleaded the Fifth. Amazing. Oldog, she claimed in no uncertain terms (and with a whole BUTTLOAD of attitude) that she has done nothing wrong. And yet refuses to testify, on the grounds her testimony may be incriminating. Against WHAT, I wonder, considering she claims she is innocent of any wrongdoing. As I said last night: The current administration in the White House has crapped on the Constitution at every opportunity, and continues to do so. And yet, ironically, she invokes the Constitution this morning to protect herself (or someone else?) from an unpleasant truth. I hope our country survives 0bama's presidency. That sound you hear is a sucking chest wound. The NEXT sound you hear may be a death rattle... | ||
| Fb1 |
Reindog, that needs to be a Marine holding the umbrella, and a doobie instead of a cigarette... | ||
| Sifo |
I can kind of understand taking the 5th on these hearings. You do potentially open yourself up to a bogus charge of perjury if you have minor discrepancies in testimony under oath at various times. Just see what they did to Scooter Libby on a minor bit of testimony that was irreverent to the question at hand AFTER they had established that no crime had been committed. Of course that's the difference between a witch hunt and a real criminal investigation. This on is a real criminal investigation. | ||
| Fb1 |
But she testified via an opening statement, THEN invoked the 5th. Trey Gowdy, a former prosecutor, correctly pointed out that you don't get to tell your side of the story then simply go home (she and her attorneys were dismissed from the hearing after she refused to answer any questions). | ||
| Sifo |
Yep, that was "testimony" that was approved by legal counsel. The more you say from there, the more likely you are to get tripped up on some insignificant detail that can be used against you in a witch hunt. Scooter Libby paid dearly for cooperating with investigators. Remember, "anything you say can be used against you in a court of law". | ||
| Sifo |
BTW, I'm not meaning to give her a pass on being a POS. | ||
| Fb1 |
Roger that. | ||
| Fb1 |
Source, more: http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/05/22 /Issa-Lets-Lerner-Get-Away | ||
| Oldog |
The Fox headline, "Nothing Lerner-ed" is humorous The fact that the IRS department under her management broke the law is not. The facts are tangible, IF I am correct in stating that the department that carried it out was under her management ( and possibly white house direction ) she should be out. she may not have "Broken" any laws but some one under her authority did she and they need to be removed. (Lois because she failed to stop the actions) Face it this has been going on since 2010 | ||
| Oldog |
Even Better  "Some People will assume that you have done something wrong," The rest of us are certain you have (failed to do your job at the least, broke the law otherwise). If you had testified, we would know your side | ||
| Oldog |
An aside, The Illegal phone record scandal, its ironic that the ENTIRE media is not calling for holders head and possibly the presidents. the only shock is that how all of these professional well educated, smarter than me LEFTY Journos did not see this coming. The leftys certainly did look the other way on the IRS, Now in their turf and no more that a whine, If we fail to stop these people The leftys wont understand their failure until the men with guns show up in their offices/ | ||
| Hootowl |
They still won't understand their failure. They'll never tie their situation back to their own actions. | ||
| Oldog |
They still won't understand their failure. They'll never tie their situation back to their own actions. The responsibility thing again. Kathleen Sebeilus popped up again those pesky illegal contributions, Life in the Obamanation ..... This would be entertaining if I did not have to participate, These Keystone crooks give a lot of hard working public servants a black eye. | ||
| Fb1 |
Issa is on record this afternoon stating that Lerner did, indeed, revoke her right to not testify by testifying this morning, so he's recalling her. Excellent. Nicely done, Congressman Gowdy: http://youtu.be/_8WNgbRGcRQ (Message edited by fb1 on May 22, 2013) | ||
| Aesquire |
The low level guys who are going to be sacrificed on the alter of deniability had, I am betting, zero contact with any politician. Those lower level criminals in the IRS might rat out their bosses, but they might not, since they, of all people, KNOW how evil those bosses are, and how much raw power will be brought to bear to destroy their lives. Not one of the people who "gave the orders" to persecute and intimidate those considered enemies has been identified. I bet that none of THEM is going to testify as to who gave them orders. Why? Because THEY know that they will be destroyed if they do. Intimidation, voter fraud, criminal contempt, manipulation, lies, perjury, all are the tools of evil men. That's HOW evil men win. Good men don't use those tactics. ( it's HOW you tell the difference! ) Ms. Lerner is demonstrably evil. As is the person who ordered her to do these criminal and tyrannical acts. ( I'm fairly certain she not only willingly did evil, but was joyful about it. Until now. ) | ||
| Fb1 |
Re: Ms. Lerner, this is troubling, yet makes perfect sense: Weekly Standard: IRS's Lois Lerner Has History of Harassing Religious Groups http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/05/21 /Weekly-Standard-IRS-Lois-Lerner-Has-History-of-Ha rassing-Religious-Groups | ||
| Reindog |
"The work of two low level IRS employees acting on their own". Wake up, ProgLibs.  | ||
| Sifo |
 It really does amaze me how often our leader have claimed to know nothing about what is going on in the areas that they are supposed to be responsible for. It's like ignorance is a virtue. | ||
| Oldog |
“War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.” George Orwell, 1984 } | ||
| Oldog |
Now I will tell you the answer to my question. It is this. The Party seeks power entirely for its own sake. We are not interested in the good of others; we are interested solely in power, pure power. What pure power means you will understand presently. We are different from the oligarchies of the past in that we know what we are doing. All the others, even those who resembled ourselves, were cowards and hypocrites. The German Nazis and the Russian Communists came very close to us in their methods, but they never had the courage to recognize their own motives. They pretended, perhaps they even believed, that they had seized power unwillingly and for a limited time, and that just around the corner there lay a paradise where human beings would be free and equal. We are not like that. We know what no one ever seizes power with the intention of relinquishing it. Power is not a means; it is an end. One does not establish a dictatorship in order to safeguard a revolution; one makes the revolution in order to establish the dictatorship. The object of persecution is persecution. The object of torture is torture. The object of power is power. Now you begin to understand me.” George Orwell, 1984 Kinda fits today you think? | ||
| Aesquire |
It's just amazing how many people never read 1984, Brave New World, Animal Farm, etc. ( or saw the movies ) Does history repeat itself? Not exactly. But if you don't pay attention, it Rhymes. I think Dennis Miller said it best. “German reunification: I view this in much the same way I view a possible Dean Martin - Jerry Lewis reconciliation: I never really enjoyed their work, and I'm not sure I need to see any of their new stuff” The comment is off topic, perhaps, but the meaning is not. | ||
| Oldog |
'84 was required reading in HS... Add Atlas Shrugged to that list, for fiction it is eerily close to several possible near futures under the "progressives" Rand grew up in communist controlled eastern Europe IIRC. it seems like all hell has broken loose lately.. | ||
| Reindog |
The good news is that history has a habit of finding exceptional leaders who seemingly come out of no where during a crisis. Witness Rand Paul, Trey Gowdy, and Ted Cruz who are all pleasant surprises in this swamp of Republican mediocrity and Democrat malevolence. The MSM may finally realize that there is an audience for people who don't blindly follow Wonderful and Hitlery. Doubtful though as they have already sold their souls. My soles go towards Fox News as they have the cajones to push against this 1984ish monster government. | ||
| Iamike |
And Franklin Roosevelt was correct about public unions and their incetuous relationship. http://spectator.org/archives/2013/05/20/obama-and -the-irs-the-smoking | ||
| Fb1 |
Source, more: http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/05/first -conservative-group-files-suit-against-irs/ | ||
| Fb1 |
Wow! The Huffington Post?!?  Image source: http://legalinsurrection.com/ And NBC?!?
You mean THIS Eric Holder, the one who recused himself in the suppoena of AP phone and e-mail records but can't remember exactly when, and neglected to put it in writing (as required by DOJ regulations)? http://youtu.be/RKlCMIZ4PDw You mean he LIED under oath to Congress (again)?!? Say it isn't so. (Message edited by fb1 on May 23, 2013) | ||
| Sifo |
Have no fear. BO is asking that Holder thoroughly investigate the wrongdoing of Holder. I have complete faith in his ability to clear himself. http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/05/obama -orders-doj-review-of-leak-investigations/ | ||
| Fb1 |
From your link:
OMG, that's almost comical. Almost.  |
