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Alfau
Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 05:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Apparently speaking the truth will get you executed in Israel too. Ask Jesus.

If speaking the truth was the criteria of true religion then Santa Clause and Rudolf the red_nosed reindeer and the Easter Bunny would all have to get the axe.

All those lying paedophile priests would be imprisoned where they belong.

Religion is the drug of choice by most uneducated peoples and truth has little or nothing to do with beliefs.


When the lines of truth are blurred you can say anything in the name of religion and peoples will fight to the death to defend their particular version of truth.



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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 11:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The religion is the opiate of the masses bit never gets old.

Ok, maybe a little.

I'm all for tolerance of others religious beliefs. Unless they are jerks about it.

There are levels of jerk.

http://foxnewsinsider.com/2012/08/21/atheist-group -files-lawsuit-in-protest-against-911-cross/

http://www.hotstockmarket.com/t/109159/westboro-ba ptist-church-gets-owned

http://themerrypoppins.blogspot.com/2012/07/if-you -ever-disrespect-islam-ever-again.html
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Moxnix
Posted on Saturday, December 01, 2012 - 11:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Christianity just requires faith and acceptance, right?

Oh, I'd better stopped my ding-danged Bible banging before the Druids come out of the forest and start acting up.

So, uh, never mind.
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, December 02, 2012 - 12:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Don't think you have too much to worry about with the druids. I have nothing against them... the family is Reform Druid. ( we worship bushes )

I would like to avoid a new "burning times" for the other neopagans, if we could. ( got a few wicca friends )

I have no idea what Christianity requires. Which branch?

I know that it's quite expensive to get high enlightenment in some religions. ( Tom Cruze? ) With others, it's not out of pocket enlightenment, it's paying for it with work. ( though buddhist meditation and self restraint don't look like heavy lifting, it's not easy... until it is. )
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Geedee
Posted on Sunday, December 02, 2012 - 04:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Christianity just requires faith and acceptance, right?"

Yep, and no middle man required. That eliminates all the which 'brand' stuff and the politics.

Position number 2 to the creator is readily available to any who choose it. The Jesus vehicle for the journey suits me. The other brands weren't available or known to me when I was sent off to Sunday School.

Ultimately there can only be one creator, and I'm number two. You can be my equal, just don't tell me what to do, mister ; )
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, December 02, 2012 - 10:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"There's only one God mam and I'm pretty sure he doesn't dress like that." - Captain America
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, December 07, 2012 - 09:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/334921/isla mology-101-clifford-d-may

Geedee, "Thou Art God." "All that Groks is God." Right? ( Some would kill me for those Quotes )
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Geedee
Posted on Saturday, December 08, 2012 - 05:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Have I been promoted?

I don't want the responsibility. I was happy at number two.
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, December 08, 2012 - 08:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



I'm a fan of Penn. He's an atheist, I'm not. But he has a darn good argument. He's Libertarian. I'm not, perhaps as much as he is, but I respect his argument on the subject. He's funny, if you think watching people get called on their crap is funny. I do.

We both agree, strongly, that the people who exploit others by claiming to talk to their dead relatives are jerks, and con men.
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Geedee
Posted on Saturday, December 08, 2012 - 11:52 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"In the beginning there was nothing, which exploded."
Terry Pratchett

"The Penn is mightier than the sword if the sword is very short, and the Penn is very sharp."
Terry Pratchett modified
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Gregtonn
Posted on Sunday, December 09, 2012 - 09:52 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Kedar Joshi once said, “It is human to search for the theory of everything, and superhuman to find it.”

Geedee,
He was wrong. I have The Theory of Everything (Stephen W. Hawking, New Millennium Press) in front of me as I type this. I found it in a used bookstore in a small town in Arizona. I am not superhuman .

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Blake
Posted on Monday, December 10, 2012 - 05:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

More inconvenient truth for the hand-wringers...

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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, December 23, 2012 - 11:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://rt.com/news/egypt-referendum-approves-const itution-670/

The Real War on Women. Brought to you by the US President.

Pity, Egypt was a flickering light in a land of darkness. Not even close to perfect, but who is? What is to come is oppression, death and rape of the opposition.
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Aesquire
Posted on Wednesday, December 26, 2012 - 07:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/M/ML_EGYPT?SI TE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2012-12- 26-16-24-26
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, January 03, 2013 - 06:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.radicalislam.org/news/saudi-cleric-issu es-fatwa-allowing-gang-rape-syrian-women

Truth hurts.
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Aesquire
Posted on Thursday, January 03, 2013 - 07:05 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And a follow up.

http://www.jerrypournelle.com/chaosmanor/?p=11299

the whole, utterly expected thing may be a ploy by Asad's guys to make evil folk look bad, or it may be completely true and the mullah who allegedly said it was cool to rape women retracted that under pressure.

Or both. Would anyone actually be surprised IF the mullah called for his buddies to be allowed to rape, you know, just to keep the edge off?
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, January 08, 2013 - 01:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.investigativeproject.org/3869/egyptian- magazine-muslim-brotherhood-infiltrates (the Obama Administration)
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, February 11, 2013 - 10:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/340269/isla mist-censorship-charges-karen-lugo

After the recent “Innocence of Muslims” YouTube controversy and the resultant Muslim riots, I visited a Southern California mosque and had a conversation with the chairman of its board. When I inquired as to his position on free speech he replied that the criminal punishment for offending Muslims should be equal to that for burning a mosque.

I find that offensive.

I believe the punishment for that is..... death?
So, by their standards........
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Blake
Posted on Sunday, March 10, 2013 - 06:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Indeed...

http://www.france24.com/en/20130309-protesters-bur n-christian-homes-pakistan
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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2013 - 09:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://youtu.be/muMu0ay9xJM

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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, April 24, 2013 - 10:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Islamism is not mere religion, it is brutal oppressive racist misogynistic totalitarianism. It is arguably even worse than Naziism! Why do we allow it to exist in our nation?


Breitbart - One Voice Silenced, Millions Awakened

KNOW THINE ENEMY: HOW MUSLIMS ENTER TO DESTROY


Here's how Islam works:

Islam is not a religion, nor is it a cult. In it's fullest form, it is a complete, total, 100% system of life. Islam has religious, legal, political, economic, social, and military components. The religious component is a beard for all of the other components. Islamization begins when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their religious rights.

When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to Muslim demands for their religious rights, some of the other components tend to creep in as well. Here's how it works.

As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens.

This is the case in:
United States -- Muslim 0.6%
Australia -- Muslim 1.5%
Canada -- Muslim 1.9%
China -- Muslim 1.8%
Italy -- Muslim 1.5%
Norway -- Muslim 1.8%

At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs.
This is happening in:
Denmark -- Muslim 2%
Germany -- Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7%
Spain -- Muslim 4%
Thailand -- Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves -- along with threats for failure to comply.
This is occurring in:
France -- Muslim 8%
Philippines -- Muslim 5%
Sweden -- Muslim 5%
Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago -- Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris , we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam , with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam.

Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections, in:
Guyana -- Muslim 10%
India -- Muslim 13.4%
Israel -- Muslim 16%
Kenya -- Muslim 10%
Russia -- Muslim 15%

After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:
Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8%

At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:

Bosnia -- Muslim 40%
Chad -- Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7%

From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:

Albania -- Muslim 70%
Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4%
Qatar -- Muslim 77.5%
Sudan -- Muslim 70%

After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in:

Bangladesh -- Muslim 83%
Egypt -- Muslim 90%
Gaza -- Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1%
Iran -- Muslim 98%
Iraq -- Muslim 97%
Jordan -- Muslim 92%
Morocco -- Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan -- Muslim 97%
Palestine -- Muslim 99%
Syria -- Muslim 90%
Tajikistan -- Muslim 90%
Turkey -- Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of 'Dar-es-Salaam' -- the Islamic House of Peace. Here there's supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such as in:
Afghanistan -- Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100%
Somalia -- Muslim 100%
Yemen -- Muslim 100%

Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.
It is important to understand that in some countries, with well under 100% Muslim populations, such as France, the minority Muslim populations live in ghettos, within which they are 100% Muslim, and within which they live by Sharia Law. The national police do not even enter these ghettos. There are no national courts nor schools nor non-Muslim religious facilities. In such situations, Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. The children attend madrasses. They learn only the Koran. To even associate with an infidel is a crime punishable with death.

Therefore, in some areas of certain nations, Muslim Imams and extremists exercise more power than the national average would indicate.

Today's 1.5 billion Muslims make up 22% of the world's population. But their birth rates dwarf the birth rates of Christians, Hindus, Buddists, and Jews, and all other believers. Muslims will exceed 50% of the world's population by the end of this century.

In my opinion, Muslims should be expelled from all Western countries and isolated. It's the only way we can avoid the impending violence.

https://www.facebook.com/notes/john-gaultier/how-i slam-works-to-dominate-the-host-country-it-is-in-m ake-up-your-own-mind-/355161017917301
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, April 25, 2013 - 11:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"In my opinion, Muslims should be expelled from all Western countries and isolated. It's the only way we can avoid the impending violence."

Hmm. Replace "Muslims" with "Jews" in that statement, and then see how you like it. I don't know what the "final solution" is, but I'm pretty sure it isn't that.
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Thursday, April 25, 2013 - 12:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Islamism is not mere religion, it is brutal oppressive racist misogynistic totalitarianism. It is arguably even worse than Naziism! Why do we allow it to exist in our nation? "

the reason our forefathers came to America was to escape religious persecution.
For people who stand behind our constitution and bill of rights so much, youre quick to dismiss some of it that doesnt fit with YOUR opinions.
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Racerx
Posted on Thursday, April 25, 2013 - 02:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Islamism is not mere religion, it is brutal oppressive racist misogynistic totalitarianism. It is arguably even worse than Naziism! Why do we allow it to exist in our nation?

I'm sure the Muslims said that when the Christians came a Crusading...
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, April 25, 2013 - 04:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"I'm sure the Muslims said that when the Christians came a Crusading..."

You mean when the Christians tried to kick the invading Arabic muslims out of eastern europe? Those crusades?
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, April 25, 2013 - 05:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So if we call Naziism a "religion", it's all good?

Educate yourself.

If the clearly stated agenda of islamism is the overthrow of liberty and the subjugation of "infidels", then why should we allow it in America?

Because you are ignorant of how islamism works and its undeniable history including recent history and current events?

Instead of burping out the lies of those who aim to overthrow liberty, be responsible, educate yourself, learn what happens in every single nation that allows islamism to take hold.
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Blake
Posted on Thursday, April 25, 2013 - 05:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

RacerX,

>>>I'm sure the Muslims said that when the Christians came a Crusading...

And at that time, a thousand years ago, they would have been dead on accurate. So what? You feel guilty? Offer them your neck! Probably better to learn from history and focus on the threats and challenges facing us today. Your punitive liberalism self-loathing is your own business. It's not something you should impose on the rest of us. Really it's something you should try to shed.

So back to 2013:

Islamism wreaks havok, death, suffering, war, and destruction worldwide. Pick an Islamist nation. Any of them. Tell me how the rights of people there compare to nations with Christian heritage.

Islamism is not mere religion, it is brutal oppressive racist misogynistic totalitarianism. It is arguably even worse than Naziism! Why do we allow it to exist in our nation?

If Nazis were a growing influence in America, organizing, building schools, gaining seats in govt, you're all for it?

Islamism is even worse than Naziism.
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Buellinmke
Posted on Thursday, April 25, 2013 - 06:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I pledged an oath to uphold and defend, with my life if need be, the Constitution of the United States of America. Even for cowards and scoundrels like you, Blake Rudy.

When the Islamists, Nazis, Christianists, or any other ridiculous cultists bring an organized attack, this country will be well defended. You can sit on your fat, old butt and rest easy that someone will protect you.

Now stop threatening the Constitution of this great nation and go back to being afraid of a bunch of weak, idiotic, religious fanatics.
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Sifo
Posted on Thursday, April 25, 2013 - 07:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

When the Islamists, Nazis, Christianists, or any other ridiculous cultists bring an organized attack, this country will be well defended.

You say that like the Islamists aren't organized.
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Oldog
Posted on Thursday, April 25, 2013 - 07:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"In my opinion, Muslims should be expelled from all Western countries and isolated. It's the only way we can avoid the impending violence."

Hmm. Replace "Muslims" with "Jews" in that statement, and then see how you like it.


The Jews were not expelled they were enslaved and murdered,

The comments above about populations and countries seem to be borne out by the head lines.

Somalia, 90+% moslem 100% TWSH


When was the last time you heard of a radical christian shooting up or bombing an event?.
A radical Jew?, A radical Jehovas Witness?

Until the moslems learn tollerence for the OTHER beliefs on this planet, they are going to cause trouble, In most western countries, people who cause trouble and violate the laws wind up incarcerated,

Moving them to an area where they can live with other moslems and not have to deal with The infidel. May be the best way.

Its not forced labor, or mass internment, or murder.

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