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Two_seasons
| Posted on Tuesday, April 02, 2013 - 01:13 pm: |
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Co-worker restoring a 1972 Honda 125SL. Currently needs engine. Anybody know anybody with one? Thanks. |
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Teeps
| Posted on Tuesday, April 02, 2013 - 06:58 pm: |
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Is this bike lacking an engine, complete? Or, does it need rebuilding? |
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Two_seasons
| Posted on Tuesday, April 02, 2013 - 09:52 pm: |
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I'm not sure. All I asked was budget, travel to pick up. I'll get back and let you know. |
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Two_seasons
| Posted on Wednesday, April 03, 2013 - 08:11 am: |
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OK, he has an engine but, in the attempt of a friend of his rebuilding the engine that came with the bike, the piston did not fit etc etc. So, where he is at with this project is he would like to a.) get an engine that runs b.) get an engine that has been rebuilt If you know anybody that does this kind of stuff with older Asian bikes, I'd be happy to pass it on to him. Thank you. |
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Kenm123t
| Posted on Wednesday, April 03, 2013 - 08:19 am: |
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look up Walnecks cycle trader they have all types of vintage parts vendors etc |
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Hughlysses
| Posted on Wednesday, April 03, 2013 - 09:21 am: |
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The Chinese build dead-on copies of these engines that are available separately and (relatively) cheap. Here's one source: http://www.fasttrails.com/Category57/Engines.aspx If he's just looking to have a running bike, that might be worth looking into. (Message edited by Hughlysses on April 03, 2013) |
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99buellx1
| Posted on Wednesday, April 03, 2013 - 10:32 am: |
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I've read that Lifan made the motors for Honda. I can't confirm though. |
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Team_ruthless
| Posted on Wednesday, April 03, 2013 - 11:00 am: |
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I have a 200 Honda single out of an xr or Xl that should bolt up. I bought it years ago as a back up for a 125 I converted. I would be willing to let it go for a hi-five if he is interested in such a project. |
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86129squids
| Posted on Wednesday, April 03, 2013 - 11:07 am: |
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This guy seems to regularly post up some pretty nice old Jap bikes; bonus, he's down south of me on TN68, on the way to Suches and N. GA in general... http://knoxville.craigslist.org/mcy/3690710265.htm l He's got a collection there for sure- someday I'd love to head down there and see what he's got. Also, there's a local guy, been in biz for many years, helped me with a good rear wheel for the GL: Six Mile Cycle, # is 865-856-7278. Another Big outfit in Morristown TN, here's the search result for it: http://www.bing.com/local/Details.aspx?lid=YN814x1 3828694 Good luck! |
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Teeps
| Posted on Wednesday, April 03, 2013 - 01:06 pm: |
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I will see what I can find. I would be interested in doing a rebuild, for the guy. However, logistics may make that a nonstarter. |
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Two_seasons
| Posted on Wednesday, April 03, 2013 - 05:53 pm: |
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Thanks guys. I'm printing out this thread and giving it to him. Greg says you guys are "awesome" and quick with a response. He really appreciates your help and so do I. |
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Fast1075
| Posted on Thursday, April 04, 2013 - 06:17 am: |
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The Lifan motors are all horizontal cylinder like the 50-70 or 90 engines. The 100/125 is a vertical cylinder engine. If the camshaft and head in the old engine are in good condition the engine is a breeze to fix. These engines, like many older Hondas had no cam bearings other than machined bores in the head. Running one with low oil or a plugged up oil pump screen would kill the head and camshaft. Poweroll company used to do head repairs where thay machined the head out and used needle bearings to repair scored cam journals. They were actually pretty good motors for their time. I built a blue ton of 145cc big bore motors. |
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Hughlysses
| Posted on Thursday, April 04, 2013 - 07:45 am: |
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These engines, like many older Hondas had no cam bearings other than machined bores in the head. Quite a few cars use that setup too. A machinist told me they can often be fixed by milling the bearing caps (to reduce the bore) and then line-boring the journals to make them round. I also heard there are camshafts with oversized journals for these repairs. To use them, you just over-bore the cam journals in the head. Seems like it'd be possible to do something like this with the Honda if it isn't too badly toasted. (Message edited by Hughlysses on April 04, 2013) |
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Ljm
| Posted on Thursday, April 04, 2013 - 11:16 am: |
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Independent Cycle in Spokane has a lot of old honda stuff, at least sometimes. There is also a guy in Coeur d'Alene who restores old hondas but he is not listed. I will be visiting in 5 weeks or so, and will drive out and see if I can find him if you are still looking. He isn't on the web or yellow pages. Only advertising is the sign on the side of his shop. |
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Teeps
| Posted on Thursday, April 04, 2013 - 12:23 pm: |
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Two_seasons Sorry to report my 2 contacts did not have any engines in their collections. One suggested, your friend, try craig's list or ebay. |
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Fast1075
| Posted on Thursday, April 04, 2013 - 03:23 pm: |
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1975 and earlier have a one piece head. The off side has a small diameter cam journal. The cam chain side uses a larger journal. The journal is relieved to allow the cam lobes to be inserted. The 160/175/200/350/450 twins had replaceable cam towers. The earlier Laverda designed twins (125/250/305) used roller cam bearings. |
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