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Kenm123t
Posted on Saturday, March 23, 2013 - 08:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

AES I didn't think to include the Vigila Sorry
Most folks don't even know American history much less early Greek
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Saturday, March 23, 2013 - 10:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

in fairness - it is not taught; you would not want the livestock to know their fate - it would spook the herd.
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, March 24, 2013 - 01:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20130323/DA56UDC02 .html

It's usually best to avoid invoking Hitler in any political argument. It's said that the first side to cry "Hitler", loses.

That's only if you are not a leftist, since they get a pass on that rule. Hitler was, after all, a leftist, and most admired by the Progressives. ( the ones who were not swooning over Mussolini, or hated Hitler because they admired Stalin. ) Hitler is, of course, called a right wing loon, by the leftists as a propaganda ploy......

Socialist totalitarianism is leftist. Just a different flavor and fan base than Communist. ( and Hitler hated Communists. Competition. )

My history interests have big holes and I tend to focus on ancient tech, which has to have a context in use and manufacture.... Weapons like the Pennsylvania rifle, the militia rifles,

http://www.trackofthewolf.com/Categories/PartDetai l.aspx/488/2/AAL-723

the Remington Rolling Blocks, the M1903 Springfield, the M1 Carbine, the AR 15, are all the hunting, defense, target, and military weapons of the day.

All varied a bit from then current sporter rifle details in things like a bayonet mount, stripper clip guides, or specific sights, but not so you'd notice.

Often, the "sporter" version of a "military" rifle just has the stock modified for weight and style. Just as often the "military" version is the "Sporter" modified to contract.

Ancient tech? Other than Plastic instead of wood for the handles, Guns haven't really changed in about a century.

Yes, advances in optics & physics have given us holo sights, lasers, and night vision, but it's still a hunk of metal going between 1-4000 fps about a 1/4 inch across.
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Thumper1203
Posted on Sunday, March 24, 2013 - 03:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

HERE WE GO!.. is anyone listening and/or aware of what is coming? they're going to shove the whole agenda through in the form of amendments..

S649



Due diligence, everyone.. I'm not fond of being an alarmist
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Britchri10
Posted on Sunday, March 24, 2013 - 08:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Aesquire:

Are you familiar with Godwin's Law?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

Chris C
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Cowboy
Posted on Sunday, March 24, 2013 - 08:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think gun owners are never going to have any peace till they are used for thier intended purpose.
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, March 24, 2013 - 10:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Britchri10, I was, but why are you being a Nazi about it?

I'm not fond of being an alarmist

That sorta describes Winston Churchill, who was considered an alarmist and war monger about ........the Nazis!

It's not paranoia when you have read an organizations agenda and it says it's to screw you. In detail. Yes, you. ( the citizen )
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, March 24, 2013 - 10:16 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.bradycampaign.org/

From the Brady Campaign to exploit a crippled guy.

Q. What is the Brady Campaign and the Brady Center's goal?

A. Our goal is to protect you, your family and your community from gun deaths and injuries. In America, we make it too easy for dangerous people to get dangerous weapons. There are only a few federal gun control laws on the books, and even those have loopholes. This leads to senseless gun violence affecting tens of thousands.


Translation. We lie through our teeth.

There are enough Federal gun control laws on the books to sink a cruiser.

For more dishonesty, straw man arguments and a lovely undercurrent of nanny state totalitarianism... visit their site.

Remember.
Give it a scary name.

ban it.

Next.

http://www.cato.org/research/gun-control?gclid=CIm Nt9_ClbYCFYhQOgodv2oADg

http://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/gun-de bate-culture-debate

In a recent appearance on PBS’s “NewsHour,” Vice President Joe Biden admitted an assault weapons ban would do little to stop crime, but argued the weapons should still be banned if they don’t have “real utility either in terms of any sporting or self protection needs[.]”

Here, Biden forgets a founding American principle: we permit the government to have guns, not the other way around. Citizens don’t need to justify owning an “assault weapon,” the government needs to justify taking it.

Biden should be applauded for his honesty, but this begs the question: If honest gun-control advocates know that laws they support are ineffective, why fight for them? Because the gun debate is fundamentally a cultural debate.
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Sifo
Posted on Sunday, March 24, 2013 - 10:45 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A. Our goal is to protect you, your family and your community from gun deaths and injuries. In America, we make it too easy for dangerous people to get dangerous weapons.

I'm open to keeping guns out of the hands of "dangerous people", but why does every law they propose target the law abiding citizen. (Meant to be rhetorical, BTW)

It's not paranoia when you have read an organizations agenda and it says it's to screw you. In detail. Yes, you. ( the citizen )

It's a scary moment when one realizes that their extreme paranoia is completely justified. Its enough to make one paranoid!
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, March 24, 2013 - 10:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sifo, you are paranoid until they kick down your door wearing masks carrying machine guns.

Then they call you paranoid for thinking they would kick down your door wearing masks carrying machine guns.
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Britchri10
Posted on Sunday, March 24, 2013 - 11:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Me, a Nazi? IDTS.
Being a Nazi about it? Again, IDTS.
I just find it an interesting idea & wondered if you were familiar with the concept.
I'm not saying, "you lose" just 'cause you mentioned the Nazi's. In fact, I'm not saying, "you lose" at all!
I worry about 2nd Amendment rights, just the same as many others on this board.
I am in favor of gun ownership without restriction & I am not in favor of the current Governments stance on control.
(& just because they are out to get you doesn't make you paranoid) : )
Chris C
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Sifo
Posted on Sunday, March 24, 2013 - 11:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Actually, them being out to get me, DOES make me kind of paranoid.
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Britchri10
Posted on Sunday, March 24, 2013 - 01:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's not paranoia when it's the truth! : )
I had the quick S&S while driving my truck last week. License, registration & residency permission. The first two I understand, the last one was a new one though!
It's a requirement that I carry my "green card" so no problem there. The funniest thing was the officer didn't know what he was looking at & I had to explain it to him!
Chris C
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, March 24, 2013 - 09:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Britchri10, Not calling you a.......

it is said "you can't compare X to Hitler because Hitler was so bad it cheapens the experience if you compare X to Hitler"

I actually get that point, but it's a crybaby point sometimes..... And sometimes it's justified.

Damn, Hitler messed up so many things, Eugenics, the Swastika, jokes,......
( a good idea never done well, a multi religious symbol in both hemispheres, and "how many people fit in a VW?" )

And you can't compare some politician with anyone else, since the vast masses don't know anything about history.

For example it's unfair to call Obama "the new Tamerlane" But I doubt 1 in 10 know why.

You'd have better luck calling Obama a Goldfinger or Hans Gruber. I bet far more people get both movies before they get Tamerlane.

No wonder everyone goes straight to "the antiChrist".... there's no proportionality.

Obama's just doubled the debt, cost 23 million people their jobs, had a couple undeclared wars and beat Jimmy Carter in the Countries Down the Sharia Drain competition. Sure he's an autocrat with no use for the Constitution, law, or Congress... ( I told you I Agree with some things Obama believes ) He's claimed the power to imprison anyone without trial, lawyers, rights, or notification of family, and also the power to murder anyone, anywhere, anytime.

But he sure isn't Hitler. that's unfair.
( not even being sarcastic about that. )
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, March 24, 2013 - 09:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That said, an an apology for a joke not done well to Chris,

The article above on Nazi Gun Control has some serious stupid bits. The National Socialist Workers Party is excused for denying guns to the Jews, since they made it easier for their friends compared to the gun laws then existing? Bogus.

There's No observation that the attitude of a country that accept weapons restrictions is one that leads to totalitarian Nanny States.

Look at NYC. It already has the most draconian gun laws in the nation, and that sheepified population is what allows egomaniacs like Nanny Bloomberg to throw all common sense out the window on the Role of Government in F&*)^( with your life.
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, March 24, 2013 - 10:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.

Robert A. Heinlein

Political tags - such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth - are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire.

Robert A. Heinlein

You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever count on having both at once.

Robert A. Heinlein

"Nothing we're going to do is going to fundamentally alter or eliminate the possibility of another mass shooting or guarantee that we will bring gun deaths down to 1,000 a year from what it is now,"

Joe Biden
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Monday, March 25, 2013 - 01:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Who needs an Amendment to the bill - when you can just pen an Executive Directive Order from the desk of the White House ?....
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Cowboy
Posted on Monday, March 25, 2013 - 01:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It takes a 2/3 vote to repeal the amendment till then they can kiss ny ass
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Kenm123t
Posted on Monday, March 25, 2013 - 05:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

WE can get guns deaths down under a thounsand in two years or less.

Put a bounty on gang members street hoods etc. The real game starts when we get to shoot the defense attorneys who has a client break another law!

Demonrat lawyers will thin out into honest work like garbage collectors or lawn service.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, March 25, 2013 - 06:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2013/mar/25/ny c-mayor-bloomberg-government-has-right-infringe-/
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, March 25, 2013 - 08:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/343805/cuom o-s-shameful-safe-act-charles-c-w-cooke

The man who would be King.

We are now being told that the new budget will be passed on time, with no tax increases.

The first part is kinda nice. for over 21 years the NY State legislature didn't pass a budget on time, because, per NYPIRG, they got more bribes in the time between the legal deadline, and months later when it was passed, than the rest of the year.

The second part, no tax hike, is simply a lie. I suppose if you didn't have a job, use electricity or live in a house or apartment, or buy.....anything, you wouldn't get a tax increase, but the number of folk living in a tent secretly on State land trapping for food is tiny.

Everyone else is going to get a big tax hike. Or medium. Depends on how much you bribed the Legislature.

But skipping local and State politics, Andrew Cuomo wants to be President. He figures that by appealing to the folk who love Obama, he can beat Hillary, who will be older, and has been effectively removed from the political equation by her stint as Sec State.

If Andy gets the Job, he may make Barry look like a piker when it comes to trashing your rights.

Obama is Chicago. He fights dirty, breaks the law at whim, and takes bribes. Big bribes. No. Bigger than that. It costs half a million $$ to buy access. Wow.

Cuomo is New York. He fights dirty, doesn't think the law applies to him, because he IS the law. I don't know the bribe situation with Andy, but I suspect he'd just as soon steal your money and do as he pleases. He was NY AG. That's their MO.

He WILL confiscate guns. He just has to do it a bit smoother than this try. ( which, btw, DOES confiscate guns, just not right away. It's built into the Act )
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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2013 - 10:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



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Cityxslicker
Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2013 - 10:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

you know.... if it were powder coated white, had some stickers on it, and a 2liter soda bottle on the top (all the actual functional items of the AR Left Alone)
I bet you could convince these idiots it was a super soaker.
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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2013 - 10:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Some are thinking it's time to really get organized for action. I have to agree with much of what is said in this piece. The enemy has already organized and we are behind the curve. What do you folks think? BTW, I'm off to try to get a few words in at a local town hall meeting tonight. Our voice must be heard BEFORE it comes to open conflict. Our current course is heading us toward quietly accepting tyranny, or taking a stand against it.

From The Daily Sheeple...


quote:

Is It Time To Organize The Revolution?

About 45 days ago I wrote an article entitled “If They Come for Your Guns Do You Have a Responsibility to Fight?” At the time this article, from an obscure blogger, changed my world. Within days I had become part of something much bigger than I could have ever imagined. The post was featured on literally hundreds of websites, and to date has received millions of readers.

How did it happen? Well on January 3rd, people were still not saying what needed to be said and I suppose I was one of the first to say it. It is not about deer hunting and we are all covered by a second amendment which is about our rights to protect ourselves from tyranny. So I said it. If they come for your guns it is not only your right but your responsibility to fight. Yes, that includes firing upon them. It’s not about hunting deer. The second amendment is about hunting tyrants.

Since pushing the “publish” button, I have had literally hundreds of conversations with people who believe that tyranny is an unchecked virus within our own federal government. I get so many messages every day that I can literally not respond to all of them. So, today I want to talk about where we go from here.

It is a growing conception that we cannot wait. While we sit and wait, our government continues an all-out assault on our rights as free men and women of the United States of America. Many people believe that there is no peaceful alternative. Many people believe that we must organize and fight. Today I can offer no concrete set of actions but I do want to lay out some thoughts that I think need to be discussed.

First I need to tell you that I sincerely believe that the government is, in a twisted way, hoping that a small group of Patriots will organize and start a half-cocked rebellion. I think they realize that this can happen and also realize that it can strengthen their case for gun control. I would not put it past them to stage such an event.

I believe that a small, poorly planned rebellion will do us more harm than good. It will be easily suppressed and it will give the powers that be even more ammunition for a declaration of martial law. It is my belief that martial law, or a “police state,” is the end goal of this administration. You don’t have to look hard to see that they are preparing for it. As recently as two weeks ago the Reverend Jesse Jackson was even asking for it in his home town of Chicago.

We must understand that there are literally millions of people who have concluded that letters, petitions, peaceful demonstrations and elections are not working. They are in agreement that revolution is the only way to potentially fix this problem. But if a small group of 50 or even 500 people start the revolt, it is likely to go nowhere. We must develop a united front and we must go through proper channels. We cannot skirt the law to try to uphold it.

The problem I see, once again, is the same problem that I witnessed 45 days ago. Everyone is waiting for someone to take the lead. So today I am going to offer to do that. With that said, I want to tell you that I am nothing more than a blogger. I don’t have any grand visions of being elected to any office. I am not a skilled military strategist. I am not an advanced “prepper” or survival expert. I am nothing special. I suppose the only thing truly special about me is that I am not afraid to speak my mind. I still understand that this is my God-given right as an American citizen.

I know full well that the first amendment in this country is currently an illusion. I know that writing this could get me arrested or killed. If you were to ask me if I was afraid I would simply answer that yes I am afraid, but I am more afraid of what will happen to our country if people do not begin to speak up.

I understand and follow the methods our current administration and lawmakers are using to take away our most basic rights. They can detain me indefinitely. If they choose to see me as an enemy of the state they can do worse. There will be no due process. It will not matter how many people support me. I can be made to disappear and become a non-factor. So why am I speaking about this?

Once again, it’s because someone has to. Until someone starts to speak of these things we have zero chance to change anything. We can’t fight the destruction of America with splintered cells of people who are afraid to raise their voices. We must be united. This is not negotiable.

I will not endorse an open attack (violent or non-violent) upon the federal government unless and until I feel like we have given them one last chance to represent us.

The first thing that “We the People” must do is set forth a list of our demands. This is our country. We need to pinpoint every change that we wish to see made and we must deliver these to the lawmakers. I am offering today to be that messenger. That is one thing that I can do, but I cannot do it alone. I will need massive response. The only way that will happen is if this post goes viral like the post from 45 days ago. I cannot guarantee that will happen, but I can guarantee it will happen if millions of people are truly in support of this revolution. Time will tell.

If we get little response then I will assume that my theories are wrong. The people will decide. I’ve been wrong before. It would not be the first time.

Here is what I need. I need people to list executive orders and laws that are in violation of our constitutional rights (list everything in the comments below). We will be demanding that these laws and executive orders be repealed.

I need open discussion of what we need to do with the people currently in office. Do we call for new elections? Can we literally remove them all? We are talking about more than Obama here. We have to understand that many people have been compliant (Republicans and Democrats) with the policies and actions that we too easily credit to Obama. This is not a problem isolated to one person. My thought is that they should keep their jobs if they start to work within the framework of the constitution. But if they do not then we will have to forcibly remove them.

Make no mistake the constitution is the law of this land, not public opinion.

We need to discuss policies (foreign and domestic) and cabinet appointments as well. We need to literally make a list of everything that needs to change. We can’t expect everything to change
immediately but we must address the issues that are important to freedom. We must list things that are constitutionally based. In other words, I don’t like everything about my government but my major concerns are the things that blatantly violate the constitution. I have to focus on these things and not merely on my opinions. Unless we can constitutionally support our arguments we have no credibility.

What I would like to do is first gather volumes of ideas and then start putting them into a format that we can use. We can’t just start shooting politicians. That will get us nowhere but dead or in jail.

Let’s get our ideas out in the open. We will then gather again to vote on the constitutional relevancy of certain opinions before we submit them to the White House and both branches of our legislature. If they have our “constitutionally based” demands in print and choose not to respond in a manner that we feel conducive to change, then we will move forward to our only remaining option. It will be time bear arms against our government.

I feel like we have no grounds to call for the revolt until we first present our conditions to our elected officials.

I am simply offering to be the messenger but ultimately the success or failure depends on you. If this post falls dead in the water with 5 or even 50 comments then we are going nowhere.

This is the time for people of America to speak up if they really want to make changes in this government. Once we have all the terms and conditions ironed out we will formally petition our government. If that goes no where then we will look toward full use of our second amendment rights.

For now you must reject any new attempts to try to infringe on your second amendment rights and if you want to be involved in this “Think Tank” you must do three things for me:

1. By all means I need to your ideas and comments below. Keep them constitutionally based. If you have no ideas or comments, at least let us know that you support us.
2. I need you to join us on Facebook. Why is this important? Well did you notice that this is the first post on a brand new site? We have already been censored once and I need people to gather where we can inform them of developments.
3. If you believe in this cause then you need to help us spread the word. Share it on your social networks or however you possibly can.

I will be watching the development of this post in regards to traffic and comments. I’m all in. I have made the offer. But again, if this ends up being a group of 5 or 50 people trying to push a revolution, we have nothing. The only way this works is if people unite right here and now. On an average blog post, it takes about 150-200 readers to generate 1 comment. If people can’t open their mouths this time then they will simply get what they deserve. I am putting myself out on a limb here. I will not fight for people who will not fight for themselves.

If you agree that this is the only way then you have to come out of hiding and get really loud now. You are allowed to disagree as well. This is America and I support your right to free speech. We have to know where we stand before we can make a decision to move forward.

“Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed; as they are in almost every kingdom of Europe. The supreme power in America cannot enforce unjust laws by the sword; because the whole body of the people are armed, and constitute a force superior to any bands of regular troops that can be, on any pretense, raised in the United States.” -Noah Webster

I put myself out on a limb once before and people responded. Make no mistake, this is a frightening place to be. I have three beautiful girls and twins on the way. I am afraid for my safety and theirs, but my biggest fear is that they will have to live with the results of an American public resolved to cowardice. America must wake up. Apathetic no more! We must do something.

MOLON LABE!

Delivered by The Daily Sheeple


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Cityxslicker
Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2013 - 10:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No wife, no kids, no possessions, no f'kn care in the world - other than a hot anger and a need to launch it.

we all die. meh.
ps - it ain't the line cop you oughta be goin against; they are minions in the mix.
Command, Control, Communication.
hit em where it hurts.
do not stand line to line, toe to toe with them; and definitely do not go to any 'rally' or 'peace protest'
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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2013 - 11:30 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It seems that Mark Kelly's AR-15 purchase is getting spiked. Seems fitting when at the time of purchase you are claiming it to be for yourself, then publicly claim you are going to give it away to a third party. Good on the gun shop!

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2013/03/robert-fa rago/diamondback-police-supply-cancels-mark-kelley s-ar-15-purchase/
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Nukeblue
Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2013 - 11:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

sifo, thanks for the post on sheeple. forwarded on with great interest
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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2013 - 10:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Went to a town hall meeting with my state rep. tonight. Lots of pro-gun folks showed up, I would guess at least 80-85% of the room, that was standing room only. She quickly found herself on the defensive on the gun issue, dancing around giving direct answers. Then she started taking questions from the same couple of people who were obviously safe to take a question from, ignoring the many people, myself included who were politely standing with raised hands. She made the point that at the IGOLD (Illinois Gun Owners Lobby Day) in Springfield a couple weeks ago, not one person stopped in to talk to her. Immediately about 10 people jumped up saying that they tried, but were turned away by her secretary, saying that she was unavailable. Somehow I really don't feel well represented. Maybe I'll stop by her office tomorrow for a face to face with her, as she suggested we are free to do anytime. Anyway, it's worth seeing who is representing you once in a while. It's good to know who's friend or foe.
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, March 26, 2013 - 11:31 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The sheeple guy is WAY too much "I, I, I". Doesn't sound like a trustworthy or credible leader to me. Nor do his ideas. We are far from having our backs to the wall. The Dems may lose big in 2014.

Good to discuss issues and what we find unconstitutional though, just don't need the backdrop of threats of violence.

If another Lexington happens, we'll know it. Those who fire first are likely to be demonized. Who wants to be in front?
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HMM anti gun for profit Mark Kelly is a Straw purchaser Similar out come that of David Gregory's crime is most likely
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