| Author | Message | ||
     U4euh |
My father has a rifle with ammo he wants to ship to me. Anyone know what the best course of action would be, who to ship with, best method for packing, etc..... | ||
| Nukeblue |
when i has to ship a pistol back to smith i had to ship with fed-ex. any box will do just had to tell them it was a fire arm. ammo, i'm not sure.... cabela's ships it ups (or used to) | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
Ship them separately a few days apart. | ||
| Blackm2 |
UPS or Fed Ex ground. If it is possible I would partially disassemble the rifle for it to fit in a smaller box to make it less conspicuous, or maybe ship pieces separate. But that's just me. | ||
| Kenm123t |
Go and get it Check the Current Shipping Regs You could ship to a Gunsmith or the factory but not between individuals with out an FFL in the middle I have not shipped in years so check out the rules Be sure not to get in trouble with a shipping issue! | ||
| 99buellx1 |
Yep, from what I know it has to be shipping to a FFL, and the FFL has to sign paperwork for it. | ||
| Hootowl |
Isn't it ridiculous that we have to worry about running afoul of the law when shipping personal property from one person to another? I wonder whether I can ship a subversive book to my father without breaking any laws? Oh, that's right, I can. The First Amendment protects me. | ||
| Ulyranger |
Two parties are forbidden from transferring a firearm via common carrier w/o going through an FFL interstate. Within state last I knew was OK (ex. NY as of three days ago, but immediate family is still GTG). Now if your father was planning to come visit you for a range session/hunt/rifle match, decided to send firearm on ahead to himself to avoid the airline issues......... Or just find a convenient LGS near you to receive it for you and pay the transfer fee. It's not a bad thing to support local business and the piece of mind to avoid possible legal trouble. Fedex or UPS will ship firearms, just avoid the strip mall franchise stores as they have different policies, go to the main facility. Ammo has to go separate with Ormd labeling. Unless it is rare ammo or he is sending a decent amount, it may be more cost effective to purchase locally. | ||
| Sifo |
When I shipped a gun to Beretta it had to be done FedEx. UPS and USPS wouldn't allow you to ship firearms and you won't be able to insure it without declaring that it's a firearm. I would call the shipper of choice about ammo. Mail order doesn't' charge hazmat fees, so I don't think there's any issues with that, but I would play it straight with the shipper. I also don't believe that a FFL has to sight for it. I signed for my Beretta when it was shipped back. You DO need an FFL for interstate transfers. If that's what is going on then just be aware of the law when you make your choice. I don't know how they would ever enforce that in a situation like that. I may or may not know of cases where that detail may or may not have been ignored. | ||
| Nillaice |
as i understand it; a person can only ship a firearm (even it is dissasebmled state) to either an FFl or to teh manufacturer, but not to another person, even in the same state and the FFl will run a background check on you and charge you their fee when you go to pick it up from them | ||
| Nillaice |
as far as packaging, slip it in a rifle sock before you put it in a foam-lined box. the foam will hold moisture against the metal, even if the rifle is packed in new, dry foam. when the box is shipped, it will go in and out of where-houses, trucks, vans and might even go fo a plane ride. heaven for bid the box gets exposed to the elements and rained on. most of these will not be heated, so when it does; the rifle goes thru a temperatre change. it will collect condensation and be damp until it's un-packed. the gun sock will hold some moisture and keep it off the bluing for the time it is in transit. the ammos can be mailed person to person. all the stuff iv'e ordered from midway and such have been marked 'ORM-D' ORM-D is a marking for mail or shipping in the United States that identifies other regulated materials for domestic transport only. Packages bearing this mark contain hazardous material in a limited quantity that presents a limited hazard during transportation, due to its form, quantity, and packaging. Consumer commodity is a hazardous material that is packaged and distributed in a quantity and form intended or suitable for retail sale and designed for consumption by individuals for their personal care or household use purposes. This term can also include certain drugs or medicines. Examples of items classed ORM-D include: Aerosol cans Automotive batteries Perfumes Small arms ammunition (not shipped as Consumer Commodity) Some photographic chemicals Soldering flux Lighters Drain openers Nitro engine fuel | ||
| Sifo |
Here's a few of teh FAQ's from the ATF...
http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/unlicensed-persons .html#shipping-firearms-additional If it's a transfer of ownership, I think you would technically be in violation of the law, but being between family members, well use prudent judgement. | ||
| Nillaice |
thank you for correcting my understanding, Sifo | ||
| Pwnzor |
I'm in the expedited shipping business. I'm cleared by TSA for unrestricted access to all secured and bonded cargo areas at sea, air and rail terminals via Security Threat Assessment, my TWIC card, and HAZMAT certifications. There are literally volumes of rules regarding what can and cannot be shipped anywhere. That being said, while you are not supposed to ship certain things to certain places or by certain methods, you can ship almost anything to anywhere without being detected. For instance, you are not allowed to ship liquor via common carrier. What you can ship is "cooking oil in glass bottles". I receive "cooking oil in glass bottles" from Colorado to Georgia on a regular basis. Now, zoom out to a wider view. "Loose machine parts" can be shipped by anybody to anywhere. I'll let you all conclude what you like from that last statement. | ||
| Sifo |
thank you for correcting my understanding, Sifo Not intending to correct anyone with that, but clarify for everyone, myself included. There's a lot of claims about what you can and can't do with firearms. Much of that is incorrect, often stemming from local laws that only pertain to certain towns or counties. I find it very frustrating personally. I'm still not exactly sure what the laws are as I travel with firearms in my car. It can be as bad as doing your taxes. One thing to add on the packaging... If you can toss in a packet of desiccant, it will ensure against condensation. They can be dried in the microwave if you like. Whenever I get a package that has one, I take it and toss it in my tool chest just for good measure. When I need one for shipping I have it, meanwhile my tools get a small amount of protection. | ||
| Reepicheep |
No kidding. That is what made me finally decide to get a CCW permit. It isn't magic, but it gives me a lot more protection against poorly crafted legislation. | ||
| Sifo |
On a slightly related note, I got an email from a friend last night where she talked about her and her hubby just getting back from a trip through Canada. She said that they had over 4,000 rounds of various calibers and had no problems at all at customs. I'll have to get the full story on how they came to be traveling into Canada with that many rounds of ammo. Sometimes it's surprising what IS allowed. | ||
| Nillaice |
no harm. i should have cited a source instead of running off at the mouth |
