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Hughlysses
| Posted on Saturday, March 16, 2013 - 05:14 pm: |
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EBR wants to know what you think about sportbikes. Take the survey here: https://ccfdo.wufoo.com/forms/m7p7a7/ |
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Sifo
| Posted on Saturday, March 16, 2013 - 05:28 pm: |
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I wish there was a comments section. At least one question didn't have an answer that remotely matched my views. Great to have them asking though. ![](http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/clipart/thumbsup3.gif) |
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Doerman
| Posted on Saturday, March 16, 2013 - 06:12 pm: |
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If I read between the lines on that survey I'd interpret it as: How close to a Panigale can we price an American v-twin that is competitive on the track. |
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Brumbear
| Posted on Saturday, March 16, 2013 - 06:41 pm: |
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I answered it but couldn't be truthful as I don't want a SuperBike I want a sport tourer but whatever |
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Hughlysses
| Posted on Saturday, March 16, 2013 - 07:02 pm: |
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I'm wondering if the survey doesn't imply that the only new EBR model we'll see this year is the 1190RX? (i.e.- no SX or AX yet). IIRC, somebody posted here that was what they'd been told. |
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Slaughter
| Posted on Saturday, March 16, 2013 - 07:40 pm: |
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Correction - they want to know what we think about SUPERBIKES - not sportbikes. I will be getting a litrebike in the coming few years but it'll be for street use, not a superbike. |
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Kenm123t
| Posted on Sunday, March 17, 2013 - 12:05 am: |
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Erik Told us @ Daytona the Street bikes will be out in fall Impression I had was multiple models. |
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Hughlysses
| Posted on Sunday, March 17, 2013 - 08:33 am: |
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Correction - they want to know what we think about SUPERBIKES - not sportbikes. Umm, no, that's not what they said. Here's EBR's quote for the survey from Facebook: "The forthcoming EBR sportbikes are as unique as you. Help us by sharing what your thoughts are about sportbikes by taking our short survey. At EBR, we truly value our customers/fans input. Thank you in advance for helping us to help you. " |
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Reepicheep
| Posted on Sunday, March 17, 2013 - 09:16 am: |
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I saw that post, and abandoned my questionare half way through it when it became obvious they were asking for opinions on a true sportbike... which I would say is the 1125 or Firebolt. I'm a Lightning / Uly guy, and trying to design a sportbike for me would be just screwing up a perfectly good sportbike. I'm looking forward to a naked bike / adventure bike... but the poor elves at Buell have been jonsing to build a great consumer sportbike for 30+ years now, and finally have the chance. Fair is fair, I can wait. |
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Kenm123t
| Posted on Sunday, March 17, 2013 - 09:48 am: |
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Homogulation Is the word on super bikes. I think your going to be very happy in the future. Kids the Bikes are in the OVEN ! |
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Cityxslicker
| Posted on Sunday, March 17, 2013 - 10:40 am: |
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nope - more interested in a cross over / dual sport / super Moto; and those are all considerably less than 1000ccs |
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Hybridmomentspass
| Posted on Sunday, March 17, 2013 - 05:44 pm: |
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they do mention Duc, but also BMW I think they are trying to gauge people buying sportbikes and not looking for something from the big-4. I did it, thanks for posting the link! I really am anxious to see what comes out in the coming months, I wonder if it'll look like the RS (ala the 1125 and the firebolt models sharing so much in the looks department), or if they'll branch out more and new parts etc (Message edited by hybridmomentspass on March 17, 2013) |
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Dalton_gang
| Posted on Sunday, March 17, 2013 - 06:10 pm: |
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I'm with Brumbear and Reepicheep. Didn't take the questionnaire posted above since it is directed towards the future purchase of an R model, which I'm not planning to purchase since it seems as if EBR is going to produce some sort of an S model which I DO WANT. I tried to click on it and the "help us build your bike" links on the EBR website but the links were broken. |
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Cyclonedon
| Posted on Sunday, March 17, 2013 - 11:01 pm: |
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I didn't take the survey because all of the questions were towards a superbike and I don't want one of those. I'm interested in either a sport touring or a good-looking dual sport motorcycle. I really feel that the best motorcycle ever built by Buell Motorcycle Company was the Ulysses. I just don't understand why EBR doesn't to expand on that successful style of a motorcycle. If they really want to build a superbike, they had better give up on the V-Twin motors. |
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Rick_a
| Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 - 12:20 am: |
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For a future purchase my interests are supermoto, cafe, and street trackers. I've been trying for years to decide on something. I'm thinking the only right answer is one of each ![](http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/clipart/snicker.gif) |
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Fast1075
| Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 - 08:29 am: |
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I didn't take the survey either. Not long ago I would have given my left nut for something like EBR is building. I love my Lightning with it's comfy ergos and "real world" power delivery. But the world has changed. There are fewer and fewer places to ride it like it wants to be ridden and enjoy the superb handling. Traffic is becoming nightmarish around here, and the Lightning spends more and more time in the garage. I come from an era where a 500 was a large displacement engine, I bought the lightning after riding my Blast with the local Buell group because I was hard pressed to keep up. The group is no more, and I realize I am not really a herd animal anyway. The meetup group I have been riding with has gotten a lot of newer/younger members that seem to lack the self preservation mechanism that more mature people have. I can still ride hard, but primarily, don't need any more tickets, or to lose my license keeping up with them. EBR survey? Untill there are questions on a survey that fit the direction I am going, I will have to pass. |
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Reepicheep
| Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 - 08:31 am: |
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Cyclone Dan... I want another Uly also, and I'm sure EBR will get there. But they have been handcuffed by Harley for 20 years, and are finally free. They earned the right to produce a world class superbike first, and most of what they learn every race will help make that future Uly that much better. Let them get a superbike sorted. Then that engine, detuned, will be powerful, economical, and insanely reliable. |
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Tpoppa
| Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 - 11:18 am: |
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If they really want to build a superbike, they had better give up on the V-Twin motors. Worth reposting. |
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Reepicheep
| Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 - 12:27 pm: |
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quote: If they really want to build a superbike, they had better give up on the V-Twin motors. Worth reposting.
What if the rules change? Are bikes great because they best exploit the AMA Superbike rules as of 2013-03-18? Or are great superbikes great superbikes, and the rules will come and go, generally always conferring some subtle advantage to some niche before changing to some other niche. |
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Rick_a
| Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 - 12:34 pm: |
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quote:If they really want to build a superbike, they had better give up on the V-Twin motors.
Better tell these guys. They've been doing it wrong for a while now...
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Gentleman_jon
| Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 - 02:23 pm: |
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I started the survey, but quit about half way through. The last thing in the world that I need is a 1000 cc, 170mph sport bike. How do I know? Because I am getting rid of the one I already have: a Ducati 999S. Right now I have a Triumph Street Triple R, and I haven't been happier with a bike in a long time. This bike is light, fast, great handling, not to expensive, easy to maintain, and more fun to ride than anything I've ever owned. The 675cc triple is just a great engine, and it pulls from 2000 to 12000 in any gear. Not bad looking either.
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Hughlysses
| Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 - 02:31 pm: |
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Speaking of triples, the Cycle World article on Buell's closure mentioned that they had a 3-cylinder mid-weight pretty much completely designed at the time of the closure announcement. I wonder if EBR will eventually bring that out? |
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Slaughter
| Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 - 03:11 pm: |
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The very first question was when do you plan to buy your Superbike. I'd love to help them with the market research but I have no plans to buy a superbike. Survey wording needs subtle changes. I can try again see if it'll let me leave the first question unanswered. |
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Hughlysses
| Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 - 03:32 pm: |
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Slaughter- I stand corrected on that point. Hopefully we'll see similar surveys for naked bikes and adventure bikes shortly. ![](http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/clipart/biggriney.gif) |
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Bluzm2
| Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 - 03:52 pm: |
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I too didn't make it past the first question. No interest in a superbike. Fun to ride one once in a while to scare the crap out of oneself. They are cool as all heck but not for me. Too old and I break too easy now. However like Bill and Cyclonedon above, I'd be all over a new adventure touring type bike. |
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Reindog
| Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 - 04:16 pm: |
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I would also be interested in an adventure touring bike. |
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Jaimec
| Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 - 04:42 pm: |
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I'd be more interested in a do-it-all bike like the new BMW F800GT. Comfortable riding position just "sporty enough." Detachable lockable hard bags. Canyon racing and cross country all easily do-able. In other words... a modern Thunderbolt. |
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Crusty
| Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 - 04:57 pm: |
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I'd jump at a Sport - Tourer. |
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Bob_thompson
| Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 - 05:01 pm: |
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"If they really want to build a superbike, they had better give up on the V-Twin motors." If they really want to build a (race only, winning) superbike they had better give up on the V-twin motors. There, I fixed it for you guys. (tongue in cheek of course). Buell continued with the other offerings after bringing out the 1125R via HD orders I'm sure, so maybe they will consider keeping the 1190's for street use, where it would excel, with ST (sport touring), RT (touring) etc. models and consider what I believe is the future, a nice V4. The V4's already running have been fairly competitive and if anyone can make them work and win its Erik & the Elves. Time & money baby! I would love to peek at Erik's drawing board/CAD program. |
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Blake
| Posted on Monday, March 18, 2013 - 08:53 pm: |
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>>> If they really want to build a superbike, they had better give up on the V-Twin motors. Only if you are a lame, follow the crowd kinda sport bike company. Not one that leads innovation like Ducati or EBR. |