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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, February 02, 2013 - 06:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Heard about Sgt. Haddad a week ago, I hadn't found a news report, Thank you.

They plan to make an example out of him.

Not behind the Iron Curtain, yet. But it would be wise to know the playbook.

In shortest form. Lie. Lie all the time, get the "news" people to lie for you, lie about what you want to do, lie about what you do, lie about what you did.

Above all, Lie about the enemies words, lie about the enemies actions, lie about the enemies motivations, lie about the enemies sanity.

For details, read the Bible of the Left, "Rules for Radicals" by Alinsky. ( Hilary's thesis is a pretty good review, if you are too lazy to read a whole book )

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/17388372/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hillary_Rodham_senior _thesis

http://www.hillaryclintonquarterly.com/hillaryclin tonsthesis.htm

http://www.hillaryclintonquarterly.com/documents/H illaryClintonThesis.pdf

Keep in mind that this very successful religion/philosophy has murdered hundreds of millions of people.

Why do I say Successful? Because it does what it intends to do, allow a small group of evil people to rule vast numbers of others. ( That collectivist/marxist ideology is good for anything else, or is intended for anything else, is, you guessed, it, The Big Lie. )
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, February 03, 2013 - 10:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://dailycaller.com/2013/02/02/nra-president-da vid-keene-gun-control-laws-are-historically-racist -video/
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Blake
Posted on Sunday, February 03, 2013 - 11:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Go Yankee patriots!

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Cityxslicker
Posted on Monday, February 04, 2013 - 01:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

isn't it funny (ironic - not ha ha) that the generation that was all about peace, free love, dope and don't trust anyone over 35 is all about control, compliance, and submission once they got into power ?.....

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Cityxslicker
Posted on Monday, February 04, 2013 - 01:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

chaos looms:

http://youtu.be/K33TX-vthUI
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Rick_a
Posted on Monday, February 04, 2013 - 08:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

chaos looms:




What chaos? Dumb kids thinking it's true or the ATF doing as the ATF does?
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Monday, February 04, 2013 - 11:22 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the ATF confisgating 'toy' guns.
random searches looking for unregistered operational toy guns
and of course the resultants of trying to make an EAG operational

much better off with the 80% paper weight from the other thread.

They came for my Nerf - but I only had a Super Soaker - ......
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Fdl3
Posted on Monday, February 04, 2013 - 12:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It is pretty alarming to me how much talk there is of keeping "guns" out of the hands of people with a history of "mental illness". I mean, who decides who is "mentally ill"?!

No law can prevent someone who really wants a gun from obtaining one. Laws can only deal out consequences, not prevention.
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Monday, February 04, 2013 - 03:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I stopped by Gander Mtn today
I was shocked to see how they are carrying less and less 'tactical' gear
and there was NO .22LR ammo at all
they had some short 223 ammo, it was 35 bucks for 20 rnd

And I happened to notice some .380 on the shelves - 50rnd for 45 dollars!!!! W T F
crazy times we're in (to quote blake or court, one of them)
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Crackhead
Posted on Monday, February 04, 2013 - 03:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

They don't have any .22lr ammo bc they sell it straight off the pallet.

A friend was a Bass Pro and watched the worker attempt to wheel out the .22lr ammo and he make it 100 yds to the shelf but only had 1 box left to restock. Everyone was grabbing 2 or 3 boxes off the pallet.

The same thing happened with .223

The worker joked and said next time he will not even both trying to get to the shelf and just sick the pallet on the other side of the stock room door. The worker said there is less tack gear bc they can't keep it in stock.

One of the local shops tactical/police shops is only open on Thursdays when the new shipments of ar-15 lowers or completes comes in. The guy has a box that you drop your phone number in and he calls you when you come up on the list to schedule your paper work to purchase what is left by the time he gets to your appointment.
You look at the shop and you swear he is going out of business because it is 1/2 empty.

He says the Democrats finally put together a small business/ made in the USA stimulus plan that works.
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Rick_a
Posted on Monday, February 04, 2013 - 10:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Today the wife mentioned that the doctor recommended a referral for the kid to a behavioral specialist as he might have ADHD. He's a six years old. No way he's going down that road. He's a kid. He likes to play, has a big imagination, and a limited attention span. That's no reason to put someone through a longterm regiment of needless, harmful medication.

When I was a boy you were a "busy body." Later it was called hyperactivity. Now ADHD is the common term.
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Rick_a
Posted on Monday, February 04, 2013 - 10:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think kids and young adults that spend their most important years medicated leaves them severely emotionally impaired.
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Blake
Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 08:51 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I agree Rick. Good call. The dr. is the "busybody" in my book. I'd be looking for a new one.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 09:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

who will say that you are 'insane' .....

have you READ the new health care bill ?
The MSWs, Councelors, PhsyShrinks are all but pushing for a Bonapaire solution ; ie - you are insane unless we deem you otherwise.

The new DSM 5 is chock full of a swarm of waiting diagnosis for you to be proven such.
Hell this administration is ready to carte blanche white wash every returning vet with PTSD and brandish them as radical enemies of the state because of their service.

You think you will get a fair shake in this kangaroo court ? oooh - and the annual 'assessment' is part of the bill too - refuse the treatment and hello 'Oppositional Disorder'

Refuse the treatment and get an IRS fine, audit, visit , etc

we are one notch away from the Handicapper General

oh, and the f@cking nitwits have moved to push a ban on energy drinks too.
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Bob_thompson
Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 11:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The only liberal Democratic president I have ever liked. He was my Commander in Chief when I was in service and brought us through one of the most harrowing times in our countries history. The Cuban missile crisis. He did not back down from any body or any country. He had big balls and was a special kind of Democrat. As you can see in this speech he DID believe in the 2nd Amendment for exactly why it was written. I did not agree with all his policies, especially Vietnam, as I have learned through history but I felt a loss in Nov. 1963 with his quick passing. I will not feel bad when Obama is gone.



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J2blue
Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 12:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If JFK's collective writings and sayings were intentionally stripped of his name, and they were attributed to a new Republican candidate whose identity was unknown, then Colin Powell was asked to elaborate on the direction this new candidate seemed to be taking the Republican party, what do you think Mr. Powell would say?
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 12:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

Today the wife mentioned that the doctor recommended a referral for the kid to a behavioral specialist as he might have ADHD. He's a six years old. No way he's going down that road. He's a kid. He likes to play, has a big imagination, and a limited attention span. That's no reason to put someone through a longterm regiment of needless, harmful medication.

When I was a boy you were a "busy body." Later it was called hyperactivity. Now ADHD is the common term.




Yea you show those doctors! They don't know anything, they spend a decade going to school, and then spend the rest of their lives dedicating themselves to helping others. They don't know your kid like you do, so disregard that recommendation to see a specialist about what may or may not be an issue, you don't want to go through the BS with your insurance company to get him treated if he really does have an issue anyway. Dodge that bullet and hope that your kid grows up normal and doesn't turn into a serial killer or something by not treating something major that will affect them for the rest of their life. That medicine is a crock anyway, the drug companies spend billions of dollars on their garbage just to turn your kid into a lifelong customer of their FDA approved placebos.

rolleyes
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Boltrider
Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 01:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Well Froggy, I have an older brother that fits that description. Those brilliant docs wanted to sedate him all day long, but thankfully mom wouldn't listen. He's fine now, and wouldn't you know, he has a kid of his own who's also very hyper. The kid ain't getting drugs either, you can count in that.

Doctors are schooled in sickness, but not in health. Maybe one day there will be more of a balance.
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Boltrider
Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 01:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

To believe your post would mean my family somehow dodged a bullet. Problem is, there was never a bullet to be dodged. Hyperactivity is not a mental illness, nor is an unmedicated "problem" child fated to be the next Adam Lanza.

(Message edited by boltrider on February 05, 2013)
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Reepicheep
Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 02:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

A few kids seem to badly need some interventions (which likely include medications) and don't have it.

But a bunch of other kids seem to be in a grey area. And there is to me an anectodatal but profoundly depressing correlation between if the parents are dual income and stressed and without much margin for their kids, and the likelyhood of that kid to be medicated. This isn't a formal study, so it may be my bias. And even if the correlation is there, it may not be causal, maybe ADHD is both genetic, and likely to result in highly busy parents.

But it bums me out whenever I can't keep myself from noticing it.

Its the really pathalogical kid in the neighborhood that scares the crap out of me... and I don't have a lot of hope that meds will fix it. I'm afraid he will either get better or get worse and there isn't much anyone can do about it... I feel for his parents, what do you do?
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 02:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have a brother that was fed at intervals loraziapam, thorazine, lithium and most recently zoloft.

State mental health is not your friend. NOT in the least.

and yes, I have little to no respect for doctors with god complexs just because they went to school for a decade. They are easy propaganda shills and culpable in this last idiocy of national 'health care'
they hand out pshy drugs like they are Pez.
Its not just the 'gun' that is the unifying element in mass shootings - it is a pharma drug and a shrink; in EVERY instance that is open records ( and the few that are sealed - I suspect as well)

The only reason we have binders of new pharma drugs is because we have new binders of mental nervous diagnosis.... that push new drugs - it is a self feeding cycle.

If you are looking for a dependent cause to ban due to gun violence; - you are missing a big tree due to the splinter in your eye if you do not also register, track, publish, and restrict the Rx, Psy Pharma, and recipients of it.
(and register the f'n ex cons - not just the sex offenders) Something like facebook with their photo, and their crime, their location, and their Modus Operendi
(this Link Analysis works in the forward deployed regions - it should be here too)
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Racerx
Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 03:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Are you posting this from Russian yet Comrade City?
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Kenm123t
Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 03:26 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bob you must not be from So Fla

remember the Bay of Pigs JFK had no balls he left those men and our guys on the beach to die!

The cuban missle crisis was a direct response to that back down on the Bay of Pigs. I have met a couple of the survivors that finally made it to So Fla
JFK was the first pres talked up as a hero because his command was sunk. He was drunk and let a Japanese tin can run his PT boat down. A movie with Cliff Robertson is why he was elected that and my Grandfather paying off the midlantic states to vote for him.
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Strokizator
Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 03:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Give it rest, Ken. Why do you insist on holding the democrat's feet to the fires of integrity? Don't you know yet that it's not what you do that counts, it's what you say (well as long as it's the liberal mantra anyway)? And when that fails you can always attack Cityx to divert attention away from the real issue.
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Cataract2
Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 03:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Racer, of course he is. He's with those women from the Ukraine he talked so much about that were just waaaaiting with anticipation for him to get there...

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Pwnzor
Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 04:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

the drug companies spend billions of dollars on their garbage just to turn your kid into a lifelong customer of their FDA approved placebos.

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Bob_thompson
Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 05:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ken (Kenm123+),

"JFK was the first pres talked up as a hero because his command was sunk."

Incorrect; what about McArthurs retreat in the Phillipines in WWII, and his firing by Truman for trying to go across the Yalu river into China during the Korean conflict? There are others I'm sure.

And I do remember that and after reading much history of the Bay of Pigs invasion, JFK new it was doomed to failure from the git go and would cost many American soldiers their lives and he tried to convey that to the anti Castro invasion personnel because his intelligence stated they knew Castro had the details ahead of time, but to no use. They went ahead anyways and it did cost many of those lives. Had Kruchev pushed the matter on the missiles he would have relented and kept us from having a nuclear disaster. Don't put much faith in the liberal movie industry on getting history correct and your Cuban friends had a different agenda.

On another note and to be fair, I do remember history on a book not many people read that stated that we went into Vietnam solely on a promise Jack made to Jackie to keep Jackies family (the Bouviers) rubber tree holdings (via Michelin tire) in tact). A totally wrong reason to start a war. I believe he would have left there had he lived but Johnson escalated it into a travesty. Fighting Communism in a country where it has proven to be somewhat better. Those Vietnamese people just wanted to be left alone to live their humble lives with NO intervention from anyone as proven by the history of the Montanyards (native Vietnamese). One of JFK's total mistakes that he never had a chance to correct.

His 2nd Amendment stance still applies today unlike our current POS idealogical president who will not even begin to correct any one of HIS mistakes. Respectfully, Bob
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Sifo
Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 06:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 07:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

To believe your post would mean my family somehow dodged a bullet. Problem is, there was never a bullet to be dodged.




No, I was simply stating that I feel it is absolutely stupid of Rick_a to just blow off a doctor. All the doctor did was recommend that the child get evaluated a specialist, to see if the child is just a regular run of mill boy, or if he indeed has an issue that may need addressing. Rick's son may be fine, but if he is not, it can make life significantly rougher for him later on if not treated.

Unfortunately ADHD tends to be overdiagnosed due to pressure from bad parents (Fix my kid, he/she won't listen and won't stop running!), which gives the disease a negative stigma and ends up hurting the individuals with it due to not getting proper care. Like Reepi said, "A few kids seem to badly need some interventions (which likely include medications) and don't have it"


quote:

Doctors are schooled in sickness, but not in health. Maybe one day there will be more of a balance.




Good doctors are schooled in both, and can give the proper treatments to stop and illness and prevent others in the future.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Tuesday, February 05, 2013 - 08:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

working on it, you don't just walk across the border into Russia/Ukraine.
It is not like the porous border and entitlement Mecca that the US is.

http://www.harley-davidson-kiev.com.ua/
http://www.h-dmoscow.ru/
http://www.hd-spb.ru/
http://hd-ekb.ru/index.php
http://www.h-dkrasnodar.ru/

Applications out; spring looms.
pictures as it happens, but yes - working on it
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