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     Fb1 |
Straight from the source: "Summary of 2013 Feinstein Assault Weapons Legislation" http://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/f iles/serve/?File_id=10993387-5d4d-4680-a872-ac8ca4 359119 | ||
| Cityxslicker |
I would love to see the gun manufactures get together with a class action law suit for libel and slander of the products and issue a punitive damage to the government *seeing as how they love lawsuits more than reality PS Feinstein and her cronies can piss the hell off. | ||
| Fdl3 |
I see a bunch of guns that will soon be getting new names!  | ||
| Fran_dog |
"You can go to www.ruger.com and with just a couple of click's, have letters sent to your Federal and State reps. "It just takes a moment, people..." Done. A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed. | ||
| Macbuell |
Proof they have no idea what they are talking about ... a 22LR Rifle is banned and the Ruger Mini-14 Tactical Rifle is banned but there is no mention of the Ruger Mini-14 Ranch Rifle. The same exact rifle that shoots the same exact ammo but just with a different looking stock. | ||
| Fb1 |
We're only three days into Obama's second term. This is just the opening salvo, amigo... | ||
| Thumper1203 |
"Awareness is key, knowledge is power" turn OFF the "TV" America.. search for the truth, it's right under our/your noses.. We can only hope discussions such as these here on Badweb are taking place all over our nation.. | ||
| Reindog |
Consider contributing to or joining the NRA, as they have political clout, even in Blue states. Progressives are fundamentally un-American and need to be tossed out of office where they are not gerrymandered in. | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
I just saw a wonderful headline: Biden says if you want to defend yourself, get a shotgun. Also, apparently if you're hungry, you can eat cake.  | ||
| J2blue |
My letter to Senator Feinstein's office: Per your presentation in the senate today to ban guns of a certain kind; I am one of millions who more than merely disagree with your thesis that some guns can be banned without infringing the second amendment. As such, your actions today deserve our full force to have you withdrawn from the office you hold for the constituencies that elected you. I will provide funds, time and effort toward this end. Your appalling incompetence to discuss the technical details of guns, how they work, and what they do is your first disqualification. Your second is your utter contempt for the thoroughly reasoned addition of the second amendment and it's contemporary application to American society and the government the people have instituted. Alongside my complete objection to any efforts you have made or will make as an elected official I will work to belittle the support the citizens of California who elected you have given. It is to their disgrace that they have tolerated your utter contempt for the wishes of the nation that has brought you to the point, now, that you contemptuously sweep away the rights of law abiding citizens to keep and bear arms of their own choosing. I will make every effort first, to defeat the bill you propose, and then, should that fail, I will work to undermine the intents of the bill to the extent that it interferes with the rights of ordinary law abiding citizens. And I will stand guard to call to attention the evidence of failure to "protect" the safety of citizens whenever such tragic incidences occur. Do you really wish to protect the public from violent and inexcusable gun deaths? There is a path that you could still take where a middle ground does exist. Much of your reputation might be salvaged should you simply abandon the plans of any kind to ban certain types of guns and gun accessories. There are many other actions, outlined by the President last week, which do not involve such bans. There is much broader support among the American people for those steps, I urge you to redirect your time and attention to those steps rather than fight in vain against myself and my fellow Americans. The choice is now yours. | ||
| Pdxs3t |
Now is the time to write your representatives, let them hear you loud and clear. There will be backroom dealings, to get this Bill passed. Let them know you will not stand for that. The anti-gun movement is very strong and their main support, the President, will do whatever it takes, to push this Bill through, even if its watered down. He want’s it passed and he has clearly said so. All firearm owners of this country, should be very concerned. These people, that wish to strip the citizens of this country their right to legally own a firearm(s), have been laying in wait for many years. They wait no longer and are acting now. And they will take whatever they can get and slowly, chip away at the 2nd Amendment. If they can be pushed back, and this Bill die’s, before it even get’s to Congress, that will give a little room to breath and ready for the next salvo. They will attack again. There is not too many way’s for us to fight. 1). Write to your reps, 2). Talk to anyone and everyone that will listen, educate people. 3). Join the NRA 4). If a rep votes for gun control, cast your vote against them, and hopefully there is enough, to remove them from office. Hold on to your hat's, its going to be a wild ride! | ||
| Swampy |
"But Biden warned it would be a "terrible mistake" to arm school staff. "The last thing we need to do is be arming schoolteachers and administrators" who may not have firearm training, he said." I can't believe how stupid this idiot is! I don't know about you but the last generation would get called out when misbehaving in school not put on drugs! The only drugs we got was asprin, and antibiotics when needed, I almost forgot about Chocks Vitamins! I still remember kids getting their hands smacked with a ruler when their penmanship was a little off. I remember a kid getting the ping pong paddle broken on his ass when he brought a snowball in to the classroom and melted it on the radiator. When asked he said "I wanted to see what would happen" You got your ass smacked for being a dumb ass, he didn't get any kind of meds just a good smack on the ass with a paddle. Joe Biden needs a good smack on the ass, what a dumb ass! He definitely didn't come from the last generation he must be from some parallel universe. | ||
| Malott442 |
I just emailed Feinstein: Senator Feinstein, I am contacting you concerning your proposed gun ban, and the disagreements that I have with it. 1. "Requires that grandfathered assault weapons be stored safely using a secure gun storage or safety device in order to keep them away from prohibited person". How is this not going to interfere with my 2nd amendment and 4th amendment rights? To ensure they are securely stored, you would have to commence unwarranted searches of law abiding citizens' homes. 2. "First, the bill prohibits the sale, manufacture, transfer and importation of 157 of the most commonly-owned military-style assault weapons. It also bans an additional group of assault weapons that can accept a detachable ammunition magazine and have one or more military characteristics". How is this going to lower gun violence? Wouldn't making purchasing methods and punishments for circumnavigating mandatory FFL background checks prior to purchase be more effective? An analogy would be using a magnifying glass to kill a nest of ants. Criminals are not going to come forward and hand you their guns. Criminals are going to keep using guns regardless of their legal standing. Is that not common sense? 3."Any weapon that is lawfully possessed at the date of the bill’s enactment;Any firearm manually operated by a bolt, pump, lever or slide action; Assault weapons used by military, law enforcement, and retired law enforcement" How are retired law enforcement entitled to more rights than an average citizen? What about retired military? What about the millions of responsible gun owners that have not committed any crimes? Retired law enforcement personnel are entitled to no more rights than a standard US citizen, and in this point I am highly offended that you think a civilian retiree is entitled to more rights than I am. In closing, I believe that the key to lowering gun violence and mass shootings is going to lie in control of the purchase process, especially private transactions. That is a path that everyone I know can at least partially agree upon. Your gun ban is a great sign of your true intent: To make the world a better place. But do you think that something so highly opposed is the right answer? Have you given a thought to redirecting your energy into making private purchases regulated? Or into stiff punishments for gun crime offenders? I look forward to hearing your response to my concerns, and I wish you luck in your work. Respectfully, Matthew Malott US Navy Veteran. | ||
| Prior |
Proof they have no idea what they are talking about ... a 22LR Rifle is banned and the Ruger Mini-14 Tactical Rifle is banned but there is no mention of the Ruger Mini-14 Ranch Rifle. The same exact rifle that shoots the same exact ammo but just with a different looking stock. Perhaps they just used Google Image search to find anything Tactical or menacing... At least there's some rigor to that approach rather than just totally grasping at straws. The reactionary nature of our current 'leadership' astonishes me. Ban guns. Make laws, or in this case, 23 executive orders, that are not well thought out and are likely illegal per the constitution. Why not be pro-active and increase fire arm education, raise awareness of mental health issues and put in place professionals whom can advocate and help those with mental disorders? If these guys ran a business they'd be bankrupt and in court after the first few days. | ||
| Sifo |
Perhaps they just used Google Image search to find anything Tactical or menacing... At least there's some rigor to that approach rather than just totally grasping at straws. The problem is that to an untrained eye, an AR-15 tactical gun looks almost exactly like an AR-15 that is completely decked out to be a good hunting or target rifle. It's not unlike how the public looks at motorcycles and can't tell the difference between an entry level bike...  and a very potent sport bike...  The reactionary nature of our current 'leadership' astonishes me. Ban guns. Make laws, or in this case, 23 executive orders, that are not well thought out and are likely illegal per the constitution. Why not be pro-active and increase fire arm education, raise awareness of mental health issues and put in place professionals whom can advocate and help those with mental disorders? You are probably confused by thinking that our leaders actually want to do what is best for the people that they represent. That's a common mistake to make. Once you learn not to make that mistake, their actions begin to make more sense. What so many of our leaders are really in office to do is protect their positions of power. Look at what they do through that prism, and I'm sure you will find their actions to be well thought out. These people are the evil power grabbers that our founders were so concerned about when they intentionally made our form of democracy so difficult to grab power from. After close to 250 years of power grabbers chipping away at our protections, they have done serious damage. | ||
| Sifo |
Interesting story where someone chased off armed intruders with an unloaded AR-15. This will never make the 24/7 news circuit, and will never be compiled into any statistics. That's what makes it so hard to protect the second amendment. http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/01/24/no-shot s-fired-home-intruders-decide-not-to-stick-around- after-seeing-their-victim-holding-an-ar-15/ | ||
| Kilroy |
Sifo - you have, unfortunately, hit the nail on the head with your last paragraph. Our great nation is past the tipping point. You young'uns are going to see the worst of it. I pray for my (step) grandson. | ||
| Sifo |
I'm curious what folks think about writing their congress critters. Do you think it does any good? Do you think that these folks who in all seriousness, don't bother to read the bills they vote on, will ever read, much less give serious consideration to any of your thoughts. I hate to admit this, but I'm pretty solidly in the camp that it doesn't matter one bit with 99% of our elected representatives. They will pay some attention to polling to see if they will be helped or hurt politically by their stance. The bottom line that I see though, is that if the polling shows they can get away with something, they wont give a rodents back end about what's wright or wrong. I can only assume that these people have at some time read the Constitution, where there is only a single right that the founders found it important enough to add language to explicitly state that this right "shall not be infringed". I just don't have a clue what more can be said, or needs to be said. These people clearly do not believe what they read in the Constitution of the United States. Can they really be swayed by a simple letter written by a lowly subject? I really want to be wrong about this, but the evidence before my eyes is far too great to ignore. Am I too jaded, or do I have this about right? If I'm right, where do we go from here? I really don't like where these questions lead me. | ||
| J2blue |
Sadly, Sifo, the individual rep probably won't read or listen to feedback from the people. They do listen to staffers, and that is who will likely read the letters we send. As to how much an impact a single letter will have, I'd say so little that it is always humbling to the writer. But that doesn't mean you shouldn't write. The collective force of the many and meek is much more forceful. And it is just a start, really. I believe the next course of peaceful action is to assemble in protest. That means we have to shut the computer off and travel to where the seats of power are. We are in a situation with proposed gun bans that it is equally necessary to make an impression on our fellow citizens who go along with the scheme as it is to convince elected officials of anything. Whether it is true or not, the proponents of gun bans believe they have the American public behind them in overwhelming numbers! In a retort to a person posting a comment on a local new site I attempted vainly to call their attention to the fallacy of what they thought was reality. Did not go very well. It is such citizens that the President and Senator are counting on. Take the fire out of the hysterical public who support the bad legislation and it changes the game. In some cases it may mean humiliating them in public discourse. If I had any public influence at all I would be calling for peaceful marches on state capitals to begin immediately. Following that a march on Washington D.C. It will take a much more significant sacrifice on our part to really change minds. Even in the face of near unanimous rejection of gun bans among law enforcement agencies the Demokrats are hell bent on taking guns away from law abiding citizens. They feel emboldened to do as they please now, so a large sacrifice on our part is likely the only thing that will get their attention. | ||
| J2blue |
Target number one for public humiliation: http://www.koaa.com/news/elway-questions-need-for- military-style-rifles/ | ||
| Sifo |
There is a part of me that is beginning to feel that a march on D.C. is necessary. An armed march. Simply defy them to stop thousands of armed citizens doing exactly what the first and second amendments tell us we have a right to do. | ||
| Kilroy |
It does not take much thought to read the Constitution and gather from it what the Federal Government is supposed to look like. To see how all government officials have bastardized it for no purpose other than maintaining their own political power base is criminal. The 2nd Amendment is just the latest one to be targeted. Based on the success they have had with the rest of the document, odds are NOT in our favor. Even the Supreme Court is complicit. | ||
| Rick_a |
They are bankrupting America and may end up there with these proposed unconstitutional measures. | ||
| Reepicheep |
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| Garryb |
Great money saving idea! We can get rid of the federal judges and the Supreme court and let some local law makers/sheriffs interpret the constitution and the legality of laws. (Kidding) But you might like this one: First in the Nation: Beaufort County, NC Passes Gun Law Nullification Resolution First in the Nation: Beaufort County, NC Passes Gun Law Nullification Resolution Posted by TAC Daily Updates EmailShare Share on Tumblr inShare While a number of states are currently considering legislation to nullify federal gun laws, rules, acts, orders and regulations, and various sheriffs around the country are issuing notice that they will not enforce any such federal laws, a new grassroots undercurrent could be building to support those efforts. Local governments nullifying unconstitutional federal acts. Today, Beaufort County, North Carolina became the first in the country to do so. The board of commissioners passed a nullification resolution in support of the 2nd Amendment. The vote was unanimous. The resolution reads, in part: The Beaufort County Board of Commissioners calls upon the Governor and General Assembly of the State of North Carolina to immediately pass an act to nullify the implementation within the State of North Carolina of any Federal law, executive order or regulations restricting the right to keep and bear arms It continues, and makes clear that the County will play no supporting role to the federal government in attacks on the 2nd Amendment: BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, the County Manager be directed to see that no county paid staff participate in nor allow any county resources be used in the implementation of any Federal law, executive order or executive directive that infringe on the right to keep and bear arms Enthusiasm from the community was high. Representatives from the North Carolina Tenth Amendment Center reported that the “room was packed” to the point that the crowd was “overflowing out into the hall.” Two local tv stations were on hand to report as well. All politics is local? Correction. All successful politics are local. LEGISLATION AND TRACKING: Get model legislation for introduction in your state or local community here: http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2ndamendmentpreservation Track the status of 2nd Amendment preservation legislation here: http://tracking.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2ndamendment If you enjoyed this post: Click Here to Get the Free Tenth Amendment Center Newsletter, Or make a donation to help keep this site active. Original article from:http://blog.tenthamendmentcenter.com/2013/01/first-in-the-nation-be... Or this one: Texas Proposal: JAIL Any Federal Officials Trying to Enforce New Gun Restrictions in the State measure would make any federal firearms legislation passed by Congress or approved by Presidential order unenforceable in Texas Jim Forsyth A Texas lawmaker says he plans to file the Firearms Protection Act, which would make any federal laws that may be passed by Congress or imposed by Presidential order which would ban or restrict ownership of semi-automatic firearms or limit the size of gun magazines illegal in the state, 1200 WOAI news reports. Republican Rep. Steve Toth says his measure also calls for felony criminal charges to be filed against any federal official who tries to enforce the rule in the state. "If a federal official comes into the state of Texas to enforce the federal executive order, that person is subject to criminal prosecution," Toth told 1200 WOAI's Joe Pags Tuesday. He says his bill would make attempting to enforce a federal gun ban in Texas punishable by a $50,000 fine and up to five years in prison. Toth says he will file his measure after speaking with the state's Republican Attorney General, Greg Abbott, who has already vowed to fight any federal measures which call for restrictions on weapons possession. Toth concedes that he would welcome a legal fight over his proposals. "At some point there needs to be a showdown between the states and the federal government over the Supremacy Clause," he said. The Supremacy Clause is the portion of the Constitution which declares that federal laws and statutes are 'the supreme law of the land.' "It is our responsibility to push back when those laws are infringed by King Obama," Toth said. Texas is the second state to propose a measure to shield the state from the impact of any gun possession restrictions imposed by Congress or by Presidential order. A similar measure was introduced in Wyoming last week. (Message edited by garryb on January 25, 2013) | ||
| Garryb |
I do think gun laws in general are a local issue, not a federal issue. | ||
| Ducbsa |
The great Compromise that we can surely all agree on: http://www.theblaze.com/blog/2013/01/25/dem-rep-wo men-should-serve-in-combat-but-shouldnt-use-assaul t-weapons/ Yep, hand 'em all M-1's, instead of those icky M-4's!! To quote the great B. Bunny, "What a maroon." | ||
| Rick_a |
Since when is an AR15 not a rifle? Idiots... | ||
| Ferris_von_bueller |
Oh my God....we are being governed by complete and utter morons. I can't believe Rep. Carolyn McCarthy actually made that comment. We really are in deep deep trouble. | ||
| Aesquire |
Know the enemy, know the facts. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brady_Campaign This org, once titled "Handgun Control Inc," is the group that came up with this... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_weapon With a book from this guy. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josh_Sugarmann Here's one of the "bibles" of the anti-constitutional movement. It is often used as a text book. http://www.amazon.com/The-Politics-Gun-Control-Edi tion/dp/1594519870/ref=ntt_at_ep_dpi_2 Ferris, at this point it is increasing hard to tell if utter incompetency or evil intent is true of much that comes from the Capital. Take nearly any subject, the lies about guns, the foreign policy that has led to islamofascist governments, ( with more on the way... can you say Syria? ) the Fast & Furious gun control ploy, ( ok, that one is definite evil intent. The Executive Privilege Order makes THAT clear ) the Trillions in increased debt with zero interest in even passing a budget, The admission that there is no plan to reduce spending, except for Defense...... etc. etc. Now, while Rep McCarthy IS indeed an utter moron when it comes to reality, she is an expert at lying to you and getting her way. Write your Congress critter. Make it plain that you will contribute all you can afford, and more, in time and money to defeat them if they vote for these Unconstitutional laws. Also make it clear that you will support THEM if they stand by their oath to defend and protect the Constitution. Do NOT threaten anyone. Ever. Period. Especially don't lose your temper in any missive to government officials. Of any Kind. The mental health aspects of this are going to be massive. Soviet massive. One "you'd better Frrring not vote for this ^(*^% bill or I'll come up there...." letter and you may just lose your rights, your freedom, and everything you own. You may get as a consolation prize some of the same psychiatric drugs that have been a factor in most of the murder suicides that are being used as an excuse to screw you over, so if you are really into irony......... |
