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Sifo
Posted on Friday, January 11, 2013 - 01:15 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You know, the one that lives down the street and has too much weaponry?

No, I don't know who that guy is.
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Macbuell
Posted on Friday, January 11, 2013 - 01:19 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How do you define too much? And WHO defines too much?
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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Friday, January 11, 2013 - 01:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Biden will be telling you shortly.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Friday, January 11, 2013 - 01:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

how many bullets/magazines/guns/ do you 'need'?..... always one more.
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Sifo
Posted on Friday, January 11, 2013 - 01:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How do you define too much? And WHO defines too much?

Any motorcycle over 250 cc.
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Fb1
Posted on Friday, January 11, 2013 - 02:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Any motorcycle over 250 cc.

But, in our infinite kindness, we'll "allow" you to keep such motorcycle/s that you already own, under the grandfather clause, but it will cost you a $250 fee per motorcycle, you'll have to be fingerprinted and complete (and pass) a psychological profile, and you'll also have to tell us exactly where in your home such motorcycle/s will be kept.

Oh yeah, almost forgot: You'll have to secure our permission in advance to cross any state lines with such motorcycle/s.

Dayum, almost forgot another one! Upon your demise your motorcycle/s MUST be forfeited to the federal government. What? Sell them in advance, you ask? Will them to your heirs?? Donate them to the Wheels Through Time museum??? You must be joking!!

Thank you, citizen. Move along.
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Macbuell
Posted on Friday, January 11, 2013 - 03:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

how many bullets/magazines/guns/ do you 'need'?..... always one more.}

That's what my wife is learning now.
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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Friday, January 11, 2013 - 03:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

For every dude by me wanting an AR, there's 6 that want ammo.

We had 6 30 gallon drums of 5.56, roughly 12,500 rounds. 5500.00. They sold in less than 6 hours. One dude bought two.

Yesterday we got 6 more 30 gallon drums of .308. 7000.00., we sold 3 so far.
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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Friday, January 11, 2013 - 04:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Holy crap, I just ordered an extra mag and a cleaning kit for a Barrett 82A1 50 cal....150.00 for the 10 round mag and 73.00 for the kit.

I suppose, when to you pay 13,000.00 for a gun, what's another 200.00?
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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, January 11, 2013 - 08:44 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Even though a 1000.00+ 6-12x56mm scope fits on an AR, is there really a need for it?

Rule of thumb for serious hunters is spend about as much on the scope as the gun. So, yeah, that $1k scope makes sense.

Now by serious hunters I'm talking guys that hunt out of state, out of country, travel to get that sheep or goat or Kudu. I can see the logic. You want a scope that won't lose zero because it was in the unpressurized baggage compartment of the plane. One that can take a few knocks when the gorillas at the airport toss it under the American Tourister pile.

As to the power & size, I'd use such a scope for target shooting, varmint hunting, etc. 12 power is excessive for a lot of stuff, but for Prairie dogs? Hit a pop can sized target on the far end of 5 football fields, from a sandbag rest, 12x works.

Also for checking out the inside of a room down the street. ( one of the lesser known uses for a high power variable scope in urban combat is the ability to narrow the view so the bright, sun drenched wall doesn't blot out the fellow in the room with a RPK. That, plus the accuracy at range are 2 of the reasons the US Army went to the Designated marksman system. )

For close quarters, clearing the house or plinking pop cans at 50 yards, a 6-12x is more magnification than you need, and edges into not useful, but it's not a crazy thing to use from a rest. If I hadn't given away all my guns..... I prefer 4x or even 2.5x as a low, or fixed for most purposes. I tried a 24x scope and THAT was stupid, for me ( why do the cross hairs move so much?? Why is it so dim? Why can't I find the target? ) YMMV.
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Jramsey
Posted on Friday, January 11, 2013 - 09:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Now by serious hunters I'm talking guys that hunt out of state, out of country, travel to get that sheep or goat or Kudu. I can see the logic. You want a scope that won't lose zero because it was in the unpressurized baggage compartment of the plane. One that can take a few knocks when the gorillas at the airport toss it under the American Tourister pile.


Most guides for these type of hunts require the the hunter to prove their marksmanship skills in camp before they ever head to the bush.}}
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Kenm123t
Posted on Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 12:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How much ammo do I need? Enough to Insure my ablity to defend my Constitution and Country from all enemies
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Buellinmke
Posted on Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 03:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

The government is afraid of the guns people have because they have to have control of the people at all times. Once you take away the guns, you can do anything to the people. You give them an inch and they take a mile. I believe we are slowly turning into a socialist government. The government is continually growing bigger and more powerful and the people need to prepare to defend themselves against government control.
- Timothy McVeigh




quote:

If you see something, say something.
- George W. Bush




(Message edited by buellinmke on January 12, 2013)
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Sifo
Posted on Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 09:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Seems like Tim McVeigh was 100% correct in that statement. While I don't agree with the action he ultimately took, since that time it's become even more apparent that he was correct in the above assessment.
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Rick_a
Posted on Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 10:55 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You only have too much ammo if your house is on fire.

Our shop got cleaned out of reloading components. People are trying to hoard everything.

Primers and Pmags could become a new currency after the collapse.
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Blake
Posted on Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 11:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Joe (Buellinmke),

What do you actually "see" Joe?

Don't care much for our unalienable rights to free speech and assembly, unless you agree with those speaking or assembling? Hitler, Stalin, Pol Pot, Mao, Castro, Saddam Hussein, Bin Laden, the Taliban and Ahmedinejad approve.

"See something say something."?

President Bush was referring to suspected terrorist activity, not people who are concerned about infringements of our unalienable rights.

Maybe you'd like us all to wear a special mark, so we can be easily identified?

McVeigh also believed that racism and rape were evil. You and he must be cut from the same cloth then.

Fascism sucks.

"If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun,” Barack Hussein Obama speaking of his political opposition.
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 11:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was talking with my dad the other day about guns, and he pulled out my old ruger 22, the first gun that was ever mine. I was about 10 or 11 I guess, like 5th grade.
Just a rifle, nothing crazy or fancy about it.
Something that caught my attention, that i'd forgotten about (havent shot it in almost two decades), was that it has a 30 round clip.
Its funny to me that these people think "more than ten rounds - assault rifle!" when there are many many guns with more than ten that are nothing like the AR15s/M4/'tactical' guns out there.

all this nonsense is just that - nonsense.
our government is messing up
they are wasting time on a non-issue.
like in the other thread, where someone quoted West - the user is the gun control.
Millions of Americans shoot their guns daily/weekly/monthly, yet there arent many shootings (outside of gang violence etc, but im thinking 'normal' gun owners, not criminals).
The issue is not how many bullets it holds, how long it takes to reload, or what it looks like - its the user.
And our leaders have their heads so far up their rear ends they fail to see this
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 01:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I 'need' another long fire stick.
the 30-06 doesn't seem to be getting the hysteria and escalation in prices and ammo; and still gives me the reach out and touch somebody song that I 'need'

new stick to me; any one got a preference or leading to a liking ?
thanks for the help
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Cowboy
Posted on Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 05:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If I want a very long shot I go to the coset and get my pld 1963 winchester mod 70----winchester 264 mag amo is hard to come by but it will still make a 500 yd. shot with some hand loads. in it day it was the flatest rifle on the market.
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Kenm123t
Posted on Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 08:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

City the word is GARAND


See Gen Pattons opinion
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Blake
Posted on Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 08:47 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

7mm Mag or .338 Lapua. Any decent brand rifle.

Check the TiborasaurusRex YouTube channel for some interesting long range shooting info.

I'm planning for a Wapiti hunt this fall.
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Nukeblue
Posted on Saturday, January 12, 2013 - 09:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

amen ken! the m1 is one of the best. just refinished the stock on mine. it was one of those 'orange' ones from cmp. now it's nice & dark. fyi anyone looking to finish a stock i highly recommend toms 1/3 mix military stock wax!
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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 12:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just an update, my shitbag boss got suspended by corporate for his little "accessories mandatory" stunt.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 01:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

problem with the Garand is that it was an 'issued' gun. I don't need to give these f'rs any new reason to see my name on a registry anywhere.

I think I can get by with them fully believing a Remi 742 is for deer hunting.
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 07:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Huntings not the point.
Sporting purposes is not the point.
Those are straw man arguments. lies to distract from the point.

The point is that authoritarians ( no matter the flavor, neo-marxist, royalist, tin pot dictator ) want to disarm the peasants.

It's obvious in the distaste they have for being near the "common" folk. They KNOW we are ignorant rubes and THEY are the elite of the Universe.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/sweeping-ne w-gun-laws-proposed-by-influential-liberal-think-t ank/2013/01/12/65192d26-5c2a-11e2-9fa9-5fbdc9530eb 9_print.html
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 10:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/335844/assaul t-weapons-paradox-robert-verbruggen

I have some nit-picking complaints on this article, but he essentially has it right.

My complaints are of the geek variety. As I have said elsewhere, geeks are geeks.
A computer or a gun geek can argue endlessly about differences in thousands of hertz/thousands of an inch, architectural differences and where the switches are and how they work. All of this is actually important to reality, but boring to the non-enthusiast.

The real point is What you are left with is a gun that was designed as a machine gun, and still looks like a machine gun, but functions like an ordinary rifle.

On that subject, Kahr arms now has Auto-Ordnance as part of it's family and you can buy semi-auto legal versions of the famous Tommy Gun. http://www.auto-ordnance.com/

Heavy, silly, and not actually suggested by anyone as a home defense weapon, a Thompson has the advantage of excellent close range power, easy of use, and classic looks that inspire a wardrobe change just to match.
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Rick_a
Posted on Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 10:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've said it before and I'll say it again, the agenda is ultimately to make all firearms illegal to own. Demonizing certain types of firearms is just a ploy to get the masses on board in order to get things started.

None of it is OK. Don't give up sh**t. Give the grabbers an inch, and they'll take it to the levels recently implemented in the UK, Australia, Canada, ETC.

This agenda preys on people's emotions to further an illogical cause. The end is always the same.

Want to be left with .22LR "target rifles" and "sporting" shotguns? Here's your future "black rifle."


I find the defeatist attitudes irritating. People act like buying firearms now somehow protects them from future legislation.
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Kenm123t
Posted on Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rick they are buying them since gun control has lead to Genocide in most cases Gun control is just one action of those moving toward a dictatorship.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 12:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Oh I understand it is pure gun grab, pure Masquerovka Leninist Leftist propaganda.

If this nation has any back bone left, the underground market and transport for these things that go bang, pop, whizz and kaboom is going to make Prohibition look like afternoon Tea.

There is great precedence at how capitalism works when resources are 'banned' - it will play the same. The general public will abide; large sections of the population will be culled - the rest will be labelled rebels, criminals, marauders, profiteers etc.

and of course there will indeed be skirmishes.
F&ck I had wanted to be overseas before this happened. saw this shiate coming 5 years ago - fricken shadows of Lenin. oh well.
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Just_ziptab
Posted on Sunday, January 13, 2013 - 01:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This thing hit $42,025.00 in bid price today!
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