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D_adams
Posted on Wednesday, December 19, 2012 - 07:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


quote:

You would almost think someone was predicting the world was coming this week.






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Ulyranger
Posted on Wednesday, December 19, 2012 - 08:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I was going to post this earlier......if you haven't purchased or stocked up by now.....SOL.

You are either going to find end of the world pricing or NLA. Many suppliers are sitting on stock it seems and web based retailers are suspending sales (i.e. Cheaper Than Dirt, which should actually be More Expensive Than Gold with their post weekend speech price increases...)

The only thing on my "needs" list at this point is a Kel Tec KSG, which hopefully will slide under the radar is this new, hasty White House gun grab, and availability approaches reasonable.
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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Thursday, December 20, 2012 - 01:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here's our sales numbers for the last three days....

Monday...131k
Tuesday...155k
Today......218k

We are totally sold out of new Ar/aks. The only stuff we have left is the .308 Ars and Varmiters.

Personally, I sold over 10k in my 5 hour shift tonight.

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D_adams
Posted on Thursday, December 20, 2012 - 04:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Last one left is a .22 in pink. It was nothing but AR's on Friday.

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Macbuell
Posted on Thursday, December 20, 2012 - 12:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm still waiting on a Kel Tec Sub 2000 I ordered about a month ago. For some reason it is really hard to get those.
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Nukeblue
Posted on Thursday, December 20, 2012 - 12:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

any one need parts? it appears dsarms has uppers & stuff in stock. i ordered another upper last night & it did not say back ordered. sweet!
i know it's no colt or bcm, but hey, they have stuff!!

http://www.dsarms.com/products.asp?dept=59
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Mnrider
Posted on Thursday, December 20, 2012 - 04:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How many small gun makers will have to shut the doors if there is a gun ban coming up.
I just mention that because if your buying an AR will the maker still be around to service the gun if need be.
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Nukeblue
Posted on Thursday, December 20, 2012 - 04:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

heard a stat of 108,000 jobs
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D_adams
Posted on Thursday, December 20, 2012 - 05:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Mmmmm, she sure shoots nice. Freestanding, no support, less than a 2.5" group at 25 yards with iron sights.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Friday, December 21, 2012 - 01:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The PINK AR is the one to get - look how FRIENDLY it is !

my two local stores are out of any AR/AK variant; and stubby shotties are going fast, mostly what is left - 22 inch Barrels and 22 caliber plinkers
the Hand guns are going quick - but the revolvers were in good supply
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D_adams
Posted on Friday, December 21, 2012 - 05:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

One guy at the range told me to put a for sale sign on the AR I picked up last night. He said it _might_ take 10 minutes to double my $$ on it.

I put a few rounds downrange, 2" - 2.5" group at 25 yards, free standing with iron sights. I took it home with me.
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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Friday, December 21, 2012 - 09:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

We haven't seen the run on the AR style .22's yet. We still have that pink M&P too.
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Seanp
Posted on Friday, December 21, 2012 - 11:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So how often do stores like Cabela's get restocked? And I'd buy that pink M&P if it were available here!
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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Friday, December 21, 2012 - 03:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There's four main ways retailers get guns.....

1) Through PIC (Purchasing and Inventory Control). A lot of times orders are generated when an item becomes out of stock or there's 1 left on the shelf.

2) Through management special orders (Management asks the corporate office to order directly from the factory)

3) Order directly through a wholesaler. We've done so many special orders through our wholesaler that our Corporate office in MN slapped our pepes.

4)Having a sales person find one at another store. For GM, there's a 25.00 shipping fee between stores.

#3 is the quickest (firearms are shipped priority next day), but offers the store the smallest amount of margin.

If a gun runs out of stock by us and the MFG has them, it takes about 2-3 weeks to go through our system and distribution center.
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Seanp
Posted on Friday, December 21, 2012 - 06:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Okay, that's good to know. So I can expect a couple of weeks until I should call back and actually expect a re-stock of the ARs, right? That leaves some time to gather funds and do some more research.
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Ninefortheroad
Posted on Monday, December 24, 2012 - 11:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Back to the OP:

I just completed my 1st "panic buy" AR assembly starting with a S&W stripped lower, the concept: light and clean

It took about a month to get all the parts. at a cost of right at $1,000 and about 3 hrs and about the same # beers utilizing no special purchased tools. I know I should have "just got a Colt 6920" but I wanted certain components and was willing to pay for them.

Here is the basic parts I used:
S&W lower with PSA enhanced LPK/Magpul MOE furniture, G+R H buffer
ALG ACT FCG
PSA Pencil 16" Middy.
BCM BCG
BCM Mod 4 Charge handle
Magpul BUIS rear

Shot 20rnds 556 federal and 20 Tula just a little while ago and it functioned fine. Has a bit of muzzle jump but only weighs 6 lbs 5 oz. unloaded.
I'm well satisfied with it initially, but...
the handguard that came with the upper is ugly and too fat for me. I have a tapered one for $20 coming from RRA. I will also go with a BCM brand Comp/FS when or if they get back in stock.

No pics because I gave my dig. camera away to my step d. because her's to a shit and did not have $,s for another right now.

Now to the next panic build....
...starting with a Spike's stripped lower. I got a rifle stock and parts with a PSA LPK Magpul MOE grip and buttstock, and ALG QMS trigger on the way.
If I can swing it $'s wise (and can find it) I am thinking a Stag 18" rifle gased "3 gunners" light barreled upper.

It's OK to dream isn't it?

Merry Christmas Y'all!

(Message edited by Ninefortheroad on December 25, 2012)

(Message edited by Ninefortheroad on December 25, 2012)
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Nukeblue
Posted on Tuesday, December 25, 2012 - 09:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

where in the world did you score a bcm bcg??! (i'm on the waiting list)

just started my second panic build. picked up stripped m&p, got it ready. ordered 20" dsarms fluted flat top upper. waiting on that. ordered a2 butt stock (in the mail). waiting to hear from bcm now... full size rifle this time!

in the mean time all the mags i ordered last week keep trickling in, sweet!

merry christmas!
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Ninefortheroad
Posted on Tuesday, December 25, 2012 - 10:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

NukeB...
"where in the world did you score a bcm bcg??!"

By the time you get the email that they are in stock, it is too late.
I had to camp out on their site and refresh several times a minute.

Don't tell everyone but it seems they are releasing a few during normal working days from about 4:45 to 5:05 PM CST...

I am trying not to get too far into "panic mode" because if this gets real, real bad and the worst case in strict regulations gets passed w/o a real "grandfather", we all will get screwed out of our investment
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Thumper74
Posted on Tuesday, December 25, 2012 - 12:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

LWRC stripped lower for $100.00. DPMS lower parts kit for $59.00. Milspec buffer tube, weight and M4 stock for $20.00 from BIL. Have a stripped upper I got for $79.00. Still working on the rest.
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Ninefortheroad
Posted on Tuesday, December 25, 2012 - 01:36 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thumper74,
Looks like you got some very good bargains and are on your way!
Hope someone gets you some more parts for Christmas!
What basic type are you trying to put together, Target/varmint, Std M4, "3 gun", HD ect???

I should have picked up lowers several months ago, but I really didn't care about putting one together until recently.

I could get my "foot on the door" on 3 AR's for the cost of 3 lowers or about $380.

Merry Christmas!
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Tuesday, December 25, 2012 - 02:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

would not the .22 plinkers just take a new upper receiver and mag to change the caliber - or am I missing something ?


ps, that Goliath 50 cal upper is the bee's knees
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Ninefortheroad
Posted on Tuesday, December 25, 2012 - 04:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Cityxslicker...

If I was to go 22lr AR style I would prefer dedicated like the S+W.
Mostly because of the major clean-up going back to centerfire.

But on a budget this kit has a pretty good rep. I might just have to have one anyway.

http://www.botachtactical.com/cmmg10235.html
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Nukeblue
Posted on Tuesday, December 25, 2012 - 05:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

careful buying from botach, got burned last year. check reviews. smoking deals on the tac boots ect but never got the bipod (atlas) i ordered & was charged for. luckily disputed it & all ended well

+2 on the dedicated 22 ar complete, or at least an upper pkg from cmmg
http://www.cmmginc.com/product_p/22b1c50.htm

city, runnin .22lr through a standard ar is known to foul up/clog the gas tube from lead

(Message edited by nuke-blue on December 25, 2012)
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Ninefortheroad
Posted on Tuesday, December 25, 2012 - 06:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have heard some trash talk about Botach, and I did have a little trouble with one of about 12 of my orders now. They are not top notch CS but so far I can deal with it (them).
Had to dog them pretty good on one order, they end up upgrading the item when they did finally send it.

Price and free delivery keep me coming back.
Like 3 PMAG 30rd mags for $37 order 12/18 got 12/22.

Risk and reward!

Another 120 rds of mixed ammo thru the new, "panic buy stripper lower" lite franken Ar.
Ran great!
I hate the fat handguard.

Merry Christmas!
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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Tuesday, December 25, 2012 - 06:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Mossberg 500 is supposed to be the way to go. Standard issue for Marines ... of course they use a 12 gauge though."

I thought the Benelli M-1014 Joint Service Combat Shotgun was the standard issue shotgun.
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Nukeblue
Posted on Tuesday, December 25, 2012 - 09:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

nine, thanks for the tip! i'll watch bcm closely..

what kind of "fat" hand guard you got? i happen to have a small round carbine hand guard you might want.. nice small and round not oval : )
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Ninefortheroad
Posted on Tuesday, December 25, 2012 - 10:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

NukeB:
My Fat handguard is a triangle shape holder on the muzzle end, mid gas type.
http://palmettostatearmory.com/index.php/ar-15-05/ complete-uppers/psa-16-mid-length-pencil-profile-c l-mp-premium-upper.html
The carbine won't fit it, it's round.

What I think I got coming from RRA, a slime tapered round one like the slim carbine you have but with the triangle mount.
http://www.rockriverarms.com/index.cfm?fuseaction= category.display&category_id=306

Many thanks for the offer!
Merry Christmas!
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Wednesday, December 26, 2012 - 01:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thoughts on NIB Armalite AR-10 . 308/7.62x51?
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Kenm123t
Posted on Wednesday, December 26, 2012 - 09:01 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Good one Fatty they work well.
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Buellinachinashop
Posted on Wednesday, December 26, 2012 - 09:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jeremy, wait on a 5.56 if you can. The .308's are nice, and Armalite makes a good gun, but the .308 is 2x-3x the price as far as ammo goes. If you really want a AR-10, I wouldn't talk you out of it, quality wise.

That said, I just ordered my Sage EBR for my M1-A. I figured now is a good time.

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