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Babired
Posted on Monday, December 17, 2012 - 10:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks for giving me some positive feedback it makes me feel good thank you all. The friend that I have has a lot of negative vibes going on right now. I tried to offer some food advice and she said,
"so you are a doctor now!" I'm so done being her friend. Too much negativity for me. You all are AWESOME! You guys and Gals have a very Merry Christmas! : )
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Xodot
Posted on Monday, December 17, 2012 - 11:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I tried to offer some food advice .....

Me too - and now I've grown tired of doing that as a 56 yr old fit, healthy eating/working out dude. Few people are willing to consider changing anything about themselves. They are as willing to accepting a religious viewpoint as they are dietary insight.

People these days eh?
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Kilroy
Posted on Monday, December 17, 2012 - 11:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Don't EVER give free food or health advice. No one will listen. Now, if you charge for it........
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Kyrocket
Posted on Monday, December 17, 2012 - 02:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"I tried to offer some food advice"

Got any good recipes? Food has replaced sex in my life, now I can't even get into my own pants.: )
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Oldog
Posted on Monday, December 17, 2012 - 02:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Food has replaced sex in my life, now I can't even get into my own pants




I'm So big I make 2 trips to haul arse

I'm so big my butt has its own zip code

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Babired
Posted on Monday, December 17, 2012 - 04:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You just cracked me up!
I have lots of good recipes I have used to lose weight and gain muscle. Funny!
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Bob_thompson
Posted on Monday, December 17, 2012 - 05:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Totally agree Kathleen, and at 71 and riding well, even somewhat aggressively in these Utah canyons, I attribute my great health to eating the right foods, exercising regularly to stay fit, keeping my weight down and keeping a good positive attitude and absolutely not getting lazy. Improvise, adjust and overcome. Always looking forward to the next ride. Bob
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99savage
Posted on Monday, December 17, 2012 - 05:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Not to get too eggheady here but the term is near ancient.

The Scots-Irish had been kicked out of near everyplace. By the time they got to the US they had the squats of King and High Church.
The English residents looked down on them and their Presbyterian ways and used it as a derogatory term

In Scotland in the 1640s, the Covenanters rejected rule by bishops, often signing manifestos using their own blood. Some wore red cloth around their neck to signify their position, and were called rednecks by the Scottish ruling class to denote that they were the rebels in what came to be known as The Bishop's War that preceded the rise of Cromwell. Eventually, the term began to mean simply "Presbyterian", especially in communities along the Scottish border. Because of the large number of Scottish immigrants in the pre-revolutionary American south, some historians have suggested that this may be the origin of the term in the United States.
Dictionaries document the earliest American citation of the term's use for Presbyterians in 1830, as "a name bestowed upon the Presbyterians of Fayetteville [North Carolina]".


when you get a few minutes read "Born Fighting"
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Babired
Posted on Tuesday, December 18, 2012 - 08:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

99 that's cool Born Fighting I'll have to check that one out.
Bob,
it feels so much better being fit and getting on the motor now compared to when I was heavy, I feel so much better about myself. K
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Kenm123t
Posted on Tuesday, December 18, 2012 - 06:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

99 so you know a little about my ancestors
Mountaineers do love a good fight!
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99savage
Posted on Tuesday, December 18, 2012 - 07:09 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Redneck - Hell yeh. - We are the only ethnic group that takes volunteers. Friendship outweighs blood.

The Scots-Irish (sometimes called the Scotch-Irish) are all around you, even though you probably don’t know it. They are a force that shapes our culture, more in the abstract power of emotion than through the argumentative force of law. In their insistent individualism, they are not likely to put an ethnic label on themselves when they debate societal issues. Some of them don’t even know their ethnic label, and some who do don’t particularly care. They don’t go for group-identity politics any more than they like to join a union. Two hundred years ago the mountains built a fierce and uncomplaining self-reliance into an already hardened people. To them, joining a group and putting themselves at the mercy of someone else’s collective judgment makes as much sense as letting the government take their guns. And nobody is going to get their guns.

These are the “red state” voters. They are family-oriented, take morality seriously, go to church, join the US military, support America’s wars, and listen to country music. They strongly believe that no man is obligated to obey the edicts of a government that violates his moral conscience. They once formed the bedrock of the Democratic Party—from the time of Andrew Jackson until the Vietnam era.

But for many Americans, these people and the culture they have sustained are either invisible or objects of derision When they are noticed at all, they are liable to be ridiculed by the coastal elites, the chattering classes who dominate academia, the mainstream media, and Hollywood, who call them hillbillies; ignorant, racist, violence-prone rednecks . . .

http://ashbrook.org/publications/oped-owens-04-web b/

p.s.: Personally I prefer the drags for my motor sports and baroque for my music but I volunteered to be one and they took me in
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Kenm123t
Posted on Tuesday, December 18, 2012 - 09:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Now you understand why Va split into Wva and Va I m from the Wva side There is a reason why the North or South didnt stay long in what became Wva. The Mountain men decimated both sides as they were viewed to be invaders. WVa is where the last Civil War started Under the O admin its looking like it will again. O is doing his best to shut the state down and economically kill it. After being Rebuffed in the 2008 election he insulted them and is actively trying to kill Wva

Sen Manchin will be recalled shortly over his gun control flip flop!
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Aesquire
Posted on Tuesday, December 18, 2012 - 10:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There are direct parallels between the mountain folk.... pretty much anywhere.

New Hampshire and the Kurds. WV & the Pathan mountain tribes of the 'stans.

Read a wonderful description of the Kurds. A mountain people who would raid the low lands until an Empire rose up high enough to almost wipe them out. Then the Kurds would be the fiercest fighters for the Empire. When the Empire fell, the Kurds went right back to the old habits. There's a reason Saddam's clan hates the Kurds. It goes back.... way back. The term "parting shot" is actually "Parthian shot" the arrow shot over the shoulder as the horse runs away. They also fired coming towards, & running past. A swirling form of combat. Destroyed Crasus' Legion. That's the Kurds. ( Heard of Saladin? conquered Jerusalem? Kurd. )

Here in the US, the mountain clans don't tend to raid the lowlands... just supply them with the things needed by society. Jacksonians. The people who run small businesses, supply the bulk of the Armed Forces, and the best moonshine.
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99savage
Posted on Tuesday, December 18, 2012 - 11:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

We are not limited to the mountains or even to the US.
My "redneck" blood is only 1/4 of me and originates in the deepest forests of Ontario. - Places where sunlight is delivered by Railroad ExPress - but these are the people who took me in.
Not really prepared to get into a real academic discussion but can make the case, without pausing that "redneck" is an attitude - not a geographic location - not a Scots-Irish blood line.
Fully 1/3 of the Hessian military who came to the US did not go home.
Am sure some died due battle & disease, but not 1/3 of them.
The conclusion seems inescapable; lots of Germans deserted and were taken in by the rednecks. - Witness the ultimate "redneck" , Chuck Yeager. - Sure ain't a Scots surname.
We are an attitude, not a blood line, not a location.
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Kenm123t
Posted on Tuesday, December 18, 2012 - 11:40 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Do you know what Chuck can do in Wva that no one else can by law ?

I m from the other side of the Charleston airport from Chuck. Look up Mallory Field on Springhill Mountain The family airport where a 100ft over run is vertical !
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