| Author | Message | ||
     Fb1 |
Finally, the GOOD people in Illinois can conceal carry just like the BAD people already do:
I can't imagine this will sit very well with our Pres. Executive order in 3.....2.....1........ | ||
| Buellinachinashop |
Love the irony of the story being generated out of "Springfield". | ||
| Oldog |
he's all ready sold us out to the UN, the real joke is all of the High and mighty know better for us types discover what the crap means ........ because they will be dealt with first, I wonder what Al is going to do when his mansion and plane are taken AND he is placed in the grass hut so that more can have too. | ||
| Sifo |
I assume this will make it's way up to the IL Supreme court. Personally, I've never understood how this was supposed to be Constitutional, along with many of the other gun laws that infringe upon a right that "shall not be infringed". We have yet to see how restrictive the CC law will be too. Still, great news for the last hold out state. | ||
| Fb1 |
More from the link:
The SCOTUS decision was only a 5-4 majority; think about the implications of THAT for a second, considering who gets to nominate potential new Supremes for (at least) the next four years... I wonder how long before we simply shitcan the Constitution and Bill of Rights in favor of something more, um, progressive... | ||
| Oldog |
I wonder how long before we simply shitcan the Constitution and Bill of Rights in favor of something more, um, progressive... Keep watching it wont be too long Me thinks.. Wreck the currency Disarm the populace.. } | ||
| 99savage |
Oh No! - Next thing you know people in Chicago will be killing each other in wholesale lots! | ||
| Littlebuggles |
Good news for the people of IL. Too bad it was such a close contest, it seems to be pretty straight forward when the "right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed" is stated. ...but in this new age, when a lot depends on just what the meaning of the word "is" is. Well who knows where it will all end up... Here's a clip from an email I received on this, rational thinking from Judge Posner: In today’s decision, Judge Richard Posner ruled that Illinois’ ban on carriage is unconstitutional. The Judge went on to say, “One doesn’t have to be a historian to realize that a right to keep and bear arms for personal self-defense in the eighteenth century could not rationally have been limited to the home. . . . Twenty-first century Illinois has no hostile Indians. But a Chicagoan is a good deal more likely to be attacked on a sidewalk than in his apartment on the 35th floor.” | ||
| F22raptor |
I want to buy a AR-15 off the grid..The time is near.. | ||
| Ourdee |
I'll believe it when I can carry it loaded "legally". I can transport it in most of Illinois now. But, not loaded or outside of a case. Makes my knife faster for now.  Don't worry mates, I'll replace the camo with civy looking clothes for public carry of fire arms. | ||
| Kenm123t |
On a side walk you ll stand out like the Jolly Green Giant in your Camo dirty grey and white work best | ||
| Ourdee |
Best non threatening urban camo I've found is, kakis, penny loafers, and polo shirts in earth tones. Back to the Illinois systems. I bought to new boats in June of this year. I went to title and register them a day later. Two months ago I received a title and registration for one of the boats. I applied for both boats at the same time. Today a title for the second craft arrived in the mail. I'm still waiting for the registration for it. How fast is this permit process going to be? Welcome to Illinois. | ||
| Bob_thompson |
If I remember, been 20 years since I applied for mine, you have to have the application signed off by your county sheriff. Good luck on that one, especially if your in Cook county. Maybe DuPage or Lake county and many downstate. Two of my old Chicago friends have had CC permits from Florida, while they lived in Cook county, for traveling purposes, for some time and now live out of state. Pretty easy to get one from there. I also doubt if Illinois would recognize it. Also glad to see the last holdout state has come on board. | ||
| Ducbsa |
They aren't on board yet. Look at the new restrictive ordinances the Chicago city council passed right after the Supreme Court decision against the old law. | ||
| Sifo |
Two of my old Chicago friends have had CC permits from Florida, while they lived in Cook county, for traveling purposes, for some time and now live out of state. Pretty easy to get one from there. I also doubt if Illinois would recognize it. Up to this point, IL would not recognize a permit from another state. I will be interesting to see what they do in the future. I still expect some of the most restrictive laws of all 50 states. Chicago politicians just don't like armed citizens, except for their own bodyguards of course. | ||
| Cyclonedon |
I'm not to excited to see more idiots out on the streets carrying guns, there is already too many shootings taking place now. | ||
| Darth_villar |
Yes, idiots are generally the type that go to a CCW class. Also, the CCW people are always involved in murders/shootings. Right. Facts be damned. | ||
| Reepicheep |
Just in case you aren't trolling Dan, you ought to go take a CCW class. Here in Ohio you can find them for $75, either a long Saturday or a couple of half day weekends. Regardless of if you are pro or anti second amendment, the information will be valuable to you. I enjoyed the class, not so much for the content (most of which I knew as well as the instructor already), but more for people watching the others in the class. It had it's share of rednecks (and I use that term with great respect for hard working rural people who live in my area), but it also had urban youths, housewives, and a smattering of fat cubicle farmed pasty white professionals such as myself. All got along really well, all were polite, and enjoyed spending the day with each other. Guns (some very valuable) were passed around freely between students during the range time for everyone to try, and those with more experience were helpful to those with less. If you are trolling, well, I guess if you find trolling entertaining, that's your business. Just know statements such as you made just make somebody sound like an uninformed bigot (where I would define bigot as somebody with a high degree of both intolerance and ignorance about a particular demographic or belief system). Look at the percentage of violent crime committed by CCW holders, and compare it to other demographics. While correlations do not demonstrate causation, the data shows that CCW holders are currently an extraordinarily safe group of people to be around. | ||
| D_adams |
And most of us try to pass that mindset along to others as well. I haven't gotten my wife totally on board with guns as of yet, but she's a lot farther along than she was at the beginning of this year. She's gone shooting with the kids and I, she's agreed to go to the range with me for some one-on-one training and maybe even a ladies night with her sister at the local range. I doubt I'll ever get her to the point of having a CCW for herself, but at least she knows how to handle a gun now. I'm still in the "buy more guns" stage, so eventually everyone in the house will have at least one, then stock the vehicles with lock boxes and something to go in them. | ||
| Tootal |
All got along really well, all were polite, and enjoyed spending the day with each other. An armed society is a polite society! Anybody in Illinois please ask your congressman and senator to support HB148 with no changes. This is supported by the Illinois State Rifle Association. They are afraid that Madigan will support right to carry along with an "assault weapons ban" along with huge fees and more red tape. |
