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Team_ruthless
Posted on Saturday, November 17, 2012 - 04:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.popularmechanics.com/_mobile/cars/news/ auto-blog/fords-1-liter-fits-in-your-carry-on-1474 1912?click=pm_latest
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Gixxer86g
Posted on Saturday, November 17, 2012 - 04:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It only makes 125hp?
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Sifo
Posted on Saturday, November 17, 2012 - 05:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The EcoBoost engines are all about torque, not top end HP. Put that in a bike chassis and you would have a 125 HP XB12 kind of engine, only better. It's a triple!
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Team_ruthless
Posted on Saturday, November 17, 2012 - 05:00 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This is the car version. The motorcycle version will have minimum of 165 hp and be made of aluminum
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Team_ruthless
Posted on Saturday, November 17, 2012 - 05:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I've heard that block is capable of 1.5 l displacement and around 200hp
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Gixxer86g
Posted on Saturday, November 17, 2012 - 06:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Very nice.
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Panhead_dan
Posted on Saturday, November 17, 2012 - 07:45 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wonder if this engine could be run without much in the way of electronics?
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Sunday, November 18, 2012 - 06:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I wonder if this engine could be run without much in the way of electronics?

I expect it could but you'd never get the efficiency or power out of it that you're looking for.

A 1.0 triple is nothing new in a car Daihatsu were doing it 30 years ago.
Mid 80s there was a turbo diesel version too, I know of a few Minis that had the diesel drivetrain from a wrecked Charade shoehorned in.

The Ford engine would be a useful base for a touring bike I'd think, but you'd need to design the bike around the lump.

The problem with using a car engine in a bike is that the car engine is usually designed to have the transmission on one end & that creates space & weight problems.

In the 80s BFG in France made a bike based around the Citroen GS engine 1300cc flat 4 air cooled, shaft drive, fuel tank under the seat.

They were pretty advanced for their day but ugly as sin, dash from a Renault 5 TS or Alpine depending on Model, headlamp from a Renault 16.

You see one now & again at bike shows here but they're pretty rare, only about 650 made.
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Cataract2
Posted on Sunday, November 18, 2012 - 07:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Grump, hence why I find the diesel concepts interesting that have been made thus far, but they are based on a car engine so it doesn't look like the whole package works. I would love a bike designed diesel engine at some point. Thinking ADv touring rig.
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Chauly
Posted on Sunday, November 18, 2012 - 11:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My Smart has a 1000 cc triple made by Mitsubishi, and it makes 68 hp. I wonder if the Ecoboost would fit?
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Sunday, November 18, 2012 - 12:29 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Maybe not but a Gixxer lump will.

http://www.smartuki.com/

Most Smarts here have the Mercedes 3 pot diesel.
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Chauly
Posted on Sunday, November 18, 2012 - 08:54 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And for that, I'm envious. Mr. Penske thought that that wasn't worth it, hence the Mitsubishi
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Reepicheep
Posted on Monday, November 19, 2012 - 09:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It's a shame that Harley lacked the cajones to let Buell build the turbo XB9.

Air cooled short stroke 989cc motor with a nice small turbo and clever electronics package... dang would that bike have looked, sounded, and ridden nicely.

I was a lifelong turbo sceptic until I got my Saab 9-3. Now I don't want a car without one.
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Zenbiker
Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2012 - 07:24 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No, you could not realistically do it without good electronics, think about boost and the transition between gears on a street bike. And yes, Reep Project Diablo was really something. I was really bummed when it got the axe because the numbers on some of the test powertrains would have been class leading, Just like NOVA, a great powertrain that got shelved.
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