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Birdy
Posted on Sunday, November 11, 2012 - 12:23 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No ones seems to know how it really happened.

http://www.news4jax.com/news/9-motorcycles-in-chai n-reaction-crash-on-I-95/-/475880/17356602/-/1549q 0k/-/index.html
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Kilroy
Posted on Sunday, November 11, 2012 - 12:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Anyone that has ever ridden in a group ride knows exactly how this kind of crap can happen
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Sifo
Posted on Sunday, November 11, 2012 - 12:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And this was a memorial ride for one of their riders that died in a crash a week earlier. Then people wonder why I pass on group rides.
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Hughlysses
Posted on Sunday, November 11, 2012 - 01:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Bikes in a group ride work like a big slinky and sometimes this happens.
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Glitch
Posted on Sunday, November 11, 2012 - 01:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No ones seems to know how it really happened.
No one? Really?
Then people wonder why I pass on group rides.
I don't wonder, I'm the same way.

These were Ruff Ryders. the epitome of safe riding, especially in groups.


For the life of me I figure how in the wide world that could have happened...
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Ratbuell
Posted on Sunday, November 11, 2012 - 03:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sounds to me like three in the group mixed it up...traffic stopped to avoid them...more traffic hit THAT traffic...and so on.

Easy to do in a group, in traffic, riding too closely together. Squirrel or no squirrel, if you don't know how to ride in a pack properly it can happen before you know it.
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Whatever
Posted on Sunday, November 11, 2012 - 04:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think this could all be easily avoided if every person with a patch on had a giant number on the center patch with their IQ LEVEL on it.
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Teeps
Posted on Sunday, November 11, 2012 - 05:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Just watch a bicycle race and it's easy to extrapolate how this could happen.

And yes, it's why I rarely ride with a group; both motorcycle and bicycle.
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Sunday, November 11, 2012 - 08:25 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I love those clowns on the public street riding through red lights on one wheel.
Nothing bad could possibly happen.

My friend and I caught up to a group of clowns like this in Newport, RI.
Doing idiot stunts for no reason right next to us.
We caught up to them of course because we were just riding at the speed limit.

Morons.
We ended up just pulling off into an IHOP to get pancakes just to avoid being "persecuted by the man" while next to the circus.
Potential guilt by association, you know?
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Whatever
Posted on Sunday, November 11, 2012 - 09:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There is no hope for the human race. 9/10 of the comments on you tube approve of the sheer idiocy on those videos. Hopefully Darwin will prevail...

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Saxon59
Posted on Sunday, November 11, 2012 - 09:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't like riding in large groups,but,if I do go on a group ride I always volunteer to ride sweep,that way you can stay way behind the pack and sweep up the aftermath.
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Pwnzor
Posted on Monday, November 12, 2012 - 05:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Wow.... that reporter really did her homework.

What a joke.
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6gears
Posted on Monday, November 12, 2012 - 08:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I can honestly say if I came upon this group closing down the interstate in front of me and I was in the Peterbilt...... I would make my way right on through. What a way to promote the motorcycle lifestyle.
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Gohot
Posted on Sunday, November 18, 2012 - 08:20 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Florida...... might have a lot to do with it.
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Jaimec
Posted on Sunday, November 18, 2012 - 09:09 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

On Long Island, my club likes to differentiate between a "Group Ride" and a "Parade Ride."

A "Group Ride" consists of a group of people familiar with one another, who've ridden together MANY times and trust each other to give each other the proper space. We may or may not have one or two unfamiliar riders in our group... but that's it (and someone from the regular group would have to vouch for that rider or riders).

A "Parade Ride" (the type most common here on Long Island) can consist of HUNDREDS of motorcyclists, most of whom are almost complete strangers (except for your own circle of friends). They tend to have a lead rider or riders and several trail riders. It may or may not have a police escort to block off intersections and close off roadways along the route.

Having seen MANY close calls on these parade runs, usually caused by some IDIOT trying to show off to the spectators on overpasses or along the side of the road, we've sworn off these kinds of events. Still, for some odd reason, they are the most popular kind of biking events on Long Island.

Upstate NY, "Group Rides" are far more popular.
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Brumbear
Posted on Sunday, November 18, 2012 - 09:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The group rides we do it is normally 5 bikes in a group staggered a few minutes apart more spirited groups leaving first NO SQUIDS and gear required. We have accidents just like everyone but they are much less when groups are kept small we have had as many as 6 groups in one ride for us it really works and the most important thing is follow the PACE. Ride spirited don't ride stupid!!! I love WolfPack riding the most with 3/4 bikes just road hunting at a spirited pace but when done right the big rides are fantastic.
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Mr_grumpy
Posted on Sunday, November 18, 2012 - 12:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I love WolfPack riding the most with 3/4 bikes just road hunting at a spirited pace

Me too, I've tried to explain it to the wife but she just can't get it.
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Sunday, November 18, 2012 - 11:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

big group rides like those shown above are terrible.
I went on two charity rides in the last two years - one was for a rider who'd gotten killed (not sure how, some sportbike kid) - I was about mid-pack and ended up cutting out of the ride early cause I felt uncomfortable.
The other was a toy ride last december (maybe it was late november, unsure) and it was horrble too. Between the slow pace (over 100 bikes), and random stuff like the two "nubian queen" (their patches said it) in front of me that had their cameras in their right hand and insisted on taking pictures during the ride, so they kept on slowing way down cause throttle was on.

I prefer small groups, less than 10, this sort of thing posted above (the huge group ride) is something i'd never consider at all.
Nine dudes wrecking at one time, yeah, I see how it could happen
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6gears
Posted on Sunday, November 18, 2012 - 11:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I usually ride with 5-6 guys that I have ridden with MANY times. If we do go on a ride with some other people I have never ridden with (usually super-slab) I always ride "clean up" so I can keep an eye on the whole group. My main fear is inattention from behind, not what is in front of me when in a group. We often ride in small groups of 2 or 3 when we are in really heavy traffic just to flow better with traffic as it is hard to keep a bigger group together in traffic with lights and etc. Seems to work better for us anyway.
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Ourdee
Posted on Monday, November 19, 2012 - 12:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I don't like group riding. If someone is squiding, I'm parking. I don't mind riding with Loose1 or Whatever, they are predictable and safety minded. I also prefer sweep.

Funny story time: During HomeComing Matt and I were going to meet up with some BadWebbers for a most enjoyable afternoon. On the way I was running GPS through an earbud. I had a jammer in the tailbag and didn't realize it was getting turned on and off when the bike hit bumps. Thing kept telling me to turn late or nothing at all.
point#1: know where your going and how.
point#2: secure any onboard jamming equipment.
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Cataract2
Posted on Monday, November 19, 2012 - 08:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ourdee, side question. When you mention jamming, are you talking about a laser jammer? How well does it work?
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Ourdee
Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2012 - 02:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No, I don't jam laser. That stuff has a long range.
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Cataract2
Posted on Tuesday, November 20, 2012 - 09:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Jammer then as in mp3 player?
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Rick_a
Posted on Wednesday, November 21, 2012 - 02:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Could've been something like this:
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