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Bobhorse
Posted on Saturday, October 27, 2012 - 08:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm through with paying $25-60 every time i want new meat on my rim. i can spoon tubeless radials onto a rim with ease. getting the tire off the rim is a different story...only because breaking the bead is tough stuff without the right tools. from there i can get it off and on easy. but the question today is...has anyone ever used one of these???

looks like the perfect tool for the job...light easy to operate and not bad on cost.
whatchall think??

http://www.amazon.com/Venom-Motorcycle-Portable-Da vidson-Kawasaki/dp/B0077T37GQ/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&q id=1351341672&sr=8-1&keywords=MOTORCYCLE+BEAD+BREA KER
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Hughlysses
Posted on Saturday, October 27, 2012 - 09:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It looks like a nice tool, but you can accomplish the same thing with a couple of 2x4 scraps. Cut one about 3 fee long for a "lever" and the other about 1 foot long for a "piston". Hook the lever under your car, or an exposed 2x4 inside your garage, or your workbench. Here's a video to explain better:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grunCumm8go

Total cost? Free hopefully or ~$10 for a couple of 2x4's.
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Glitch
Posted on Saturday, October 27, 2012 - 09:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The reviews of said machine sound pretty bad.

Here's our set up, similar anyway
http://www.clarity.net/adam/tire-changing.html
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Bobhorse
Posted on Saturday, October 27, 2012 - 10:04 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

hmmm...yeah I saw the lumber method on youtube. I even thought about adding a hinge on the 2x6 to make a more secure, easy operation.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Saturday, October 27, 2012 - 10:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I never had much luck with the 2x4 setup. I use the neighbors harbor freight changer, which has a bead breaker in the base. It works pretty well in most cases, though the occasional quad or trailer tire can be quite a challenge.

Hey! That's Don Casto in the Amazon review!

Basically, we just us the base of this thing:
http://www.harborfreight.com/portable-tire-changer -69686.html

$39. So if you just use it as a bead breaker, you are good to go. You don't even need to bolt it down to anything to use it.

You can do the rest of the change with a 5 gallon paint bucket as a support, but it may turn into quite the wrestling match for some tires. Probably not awful if you can get another set of hands to help. And get everything good and hot, and good and soapy.
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Kenm123t
Posted on Saturday, October 27, 2012 - 10:18 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I modified a log splitter to change go kart tires and to break beads
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Sifo
Posted on Saturday, October 27, 2012 - 10:23 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Glitch, I was looking at that exact link a few weeks ago trying to figure out if I want to start doing my own. How does the powder coat hold up using this technique? If I'm going to chip the powder coat off every tire change I'd rather pay to get it done.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Saturday, October 27, 2012 - 10:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sure! I'll chip your powder coat for $5 per wheel. I'm really good at it!

On the 9sx, the first time the dealer changed a tire and took off about 1" I was muttering all sorts of disparaging things about them.

The second time, I changed the wheel, being as careful as was humanly possible, and I peeled off another 1". I disparaged myself just to be fair. : )
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Sifo
Posted on Saturday, October 27, 2012 - 11:47 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The dealer that does all my tire changes has never chipped powder coat off of a wheel that I've heard of. I know a lot of folks that deal with them too. They take great pride in their service though.
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Ducbsa
Posted on Saturday, October 27, 2012 - 12:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

No Mar http://www.nomartirechanger.com/ was mentioned on BW a few years ago
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Glitch
Posted on Saturday, October 27, 2012 - 12:18 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

How does the powder coat hold up using this technique?
I haven't any scratches, I have the original XB wheels, no powder coating.
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Reepicheep
Posted on Saturday, October 27, 2012 - 01:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think some wheels have powdercoat that sticks better than others. The 9sx black powder coat probably could have been removed (literally) with a fingernail in a few places.
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Etennuly
Posted on Saturday, October 27, 2012 - 06:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I had my first rear tire change done by my local dealership on the City-X I bought from them. They not only chipped a few spots on the edges, they found a way to make a 3" gouge up over the edge towards the center of the rim. After spending a half hour telling me that my first time changed out rear tire was on a rim was brought into them that way, they replaced the rim for me. Well, once the manager realized they did the whole job, including removing the wheel.


I lay heavy quilted moving blankets on the back side of my rims before breaking them down with my Harbor Freight POS tire machine. That back side breaker block will gouge them if it is allowed to.

The rim clamp works well on the rotor. Clamping to the edge of the rim is just not gonna happen. I have found that my No Mar Bar works best with their original lube stuff. Much better than with dish soap.
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