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Blake
Posted on Saturday, October 20, 2012 - 12:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)



Geez!  I used to think Stewart was well-informed.  Apparently he's just another really ignorant entertainer.  He appeared to actually think that the annual budget "deficit" or "surplus" was the same as our total outstanding "debt."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LC42FpDVUas&feature =youtube_gdata_player

Is it just me, or was O'Reilly excessively whiny?  I hate whininess. No matter the facts, whiny loses a debate every time. McCain was the queen of whiny. Obama is the opposite of whiny, confident and assertive.
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Hootowl
Posted on Saturday, October 20, 2012 - 02:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I suspect there are quite a few folks operating under that misconception.
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Kenm123t
Posted on Saturday, October 20, 2012 - 03:01 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Stewart is an idiot Remember he is Wieners college room mate.
O Rielly is is Whiney
Obama is a bs artist street hustler
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Sifo
Posted on Saturday, October 20, 2012 - 03:16 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes Stewart is that ignorant.

Yes O'Reilly is that whiny.

Keeps me from watching either of them.
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86129squids
Posted on Sunday, October 21, 2012 - 03:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm in.
I've known something was up with the "Republican" party since Rush Limbaugh was the keynote speaker way back when, say, about around the year 2000.

He said himself back then he is an "entertainer", not a political guy.

Rush is a GIANT fktard, as are most of the popular talk fu*cks... hope youn's can find your way forward (pun intended), and help lead our way past this election.

J'ah love you all.
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Moxnix
Posted on Sunday, October 21, 2012 - 09:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

And that nut Beck called his radio show the mixer of entertainment and enlightenment, then rang up gas station attendants around the country to ask political questions of people w/o a GED & making minimal wage & laugh at them. Holding him in low regard still . . .
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, October 21, 2012 - 10:03 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This makes him different than late night talk show tv hosts that ask people on the streets questions? Like Letterman or Leno?

I'm not going to argue with squidlies opinion of Rush, I'm not even going to disagree with his opinion of the Republican Party.

I'm of the opinion that a R Party with more fiscal conservation ( like the Tea Party ) less medieval morality ( like the Tea Party ) and more Libertarian, ( like some D's USED to be ) platform would be far better than the old farts we have now.

I wonder if my fact based opinion of the Party of the Klan, the Jim Crow laws, the Vietnam War etc. is much different that his?
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, October 21, 2012 - 10:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Maxnix, I've done that job when times were tough... most dangerous job in America.

Is your contempt for people universal? Or just those you think you can look down on?

I've noticed that you usually get dumb answers from "random" people on the street.

You can do that a few ways, the dishonest one is to edit out the smart people, the sneaky way is to pick your time, place and approach.

for example, smart, busy people don't do man in the street interviews. They have better things to do. The time you do the questions matters, as is the place. NYU vs. Times Square. During or after working hours. ( Anyone on the street after 11pm may be less likely to know who the sec state is for example )

I know that asking political questions at an Obama Rally gets you utter ignorance.

I wonder what doing so at a Tea Party rally would get?

Grab your camera and go find out for me, will you?
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Johnnymceldoo
Posted on Sunday, October 21, 2012 - 10:19 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hey squids, why do you dislike rush so much? Just curious.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Sunday, October 21, 2012 - 10:33 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I haven't ever really liked the Beck Jiffy Mart Football game.

It makes me uncomfortable to hear people embarrassing themselves.

If you want expert political analysis, I prefer Andrew Wilkow.





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Kenm123t
Posted on Sunday, October 21, 2012 - 10:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The left hates themselves and every one they cant control Notice they love the Islamic agenda till it applies to them.
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Ft_bstrd
Posted on Sunday, October 21, 2012 - 10:44 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yes, Chris Matthews is THIS stupid.

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Xdigitalx
Posted on Sunday, October 21, 2012 - 12:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Chris Mathews is a duchebag!

Oh.. and so is that Ricky Maddow dude,... he spends like 10 mins on a dumb a$$ subject that means nothing. For instance, if Romney is speaking about Bengazi, then shifts to a lighter subject, and mentions he hates spinach,... that will be the talking point for his show for the first 15 min. "Romney says he hates spinach?... yet in 1987 he bought a spinach farm and sold it to make a huge profit..., what a HYPOCRITE!!"

Oh, That Lawrence guy is also an A**hat... Come to think of it, I think almost everyone on the OBAMACHANNEL (msnbc) is an A**hat.

These are some of the faces I want to see when Romney takes the lead on November 6th, 2012.
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86129squids
Posted on Sunday, October 21, 2012 - 01:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"I'm of the opinion that a R Party with more fiscal conservation ( like the Tea Party ) less medieval morality ( like the Tea Party ) and more Libertarian, ( like some D's USED to be ) platform would be far better than the old farts we have now."



You all have your opinions of Ron Paul, but I'd be much more interested in the R side of things if he were running. As things stand today... naaah.

And... you may now commence to my tarring and feathering.
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Moxnix
Posted on Sunday, October 21, 2012 - 02:02 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My contempt is for that national radio host going out of his way to humiliate plain folk, making big money himself, at their expense. I rather like the people at my local gas station, stop and rob, etc.
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, October 21, 2012 - 03:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Isn't that exactly what all the other talk show hosts do, when they do the man on the street bit?

I'm not even sure it's a partisan thing... dumb is funny. Scary, when you interview the young college kids that have to be good enough to keep the system going, and it's obvious that they have zero clue. But I've seen that bit done late night, daytime, etc. Certainly Letterman does it and he's not a righty.

Squid, at this time, with Paul out of the running, you have to vote for ABO. ( anybody but Obama ) If you don't you get more of the same, and no hope of Paul getting influence. Because the next cycle the R's will. again, pick another person they HOPE has a chance... OR as they have before, some fart who's "turn it is". Like Dole, or McCain.

I'll join you next January in mocking the Republicans, and perhaps, if we're lucky, the Tea Party folk and the Paul fans can get some change. But you can only get that change with a R in power, because that's the time for subversive action.

The Best thing about a R President, is that you can count on the "press" to jump on anything he does wrong or they disagree with. YOU actually have more power when you can get the press on your side.

You could have witnesses that Obama slaughtered a bus load of nuns & orphans and they wouldn't report it today. ( not saying he ever has.... but we don't know for sure... I bet those records are sealed, too. Like his grades, how he paid for college, and the truth behind his Body Servants... )
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Kenm123t
Posted on Sunday, October 21, 2012 - 04:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ron Paul had some good Ideas But had several areas where he was just plain nuts.
Riding herd on fiscal policy Ron Paul would be great.
No party will ever have a canidate the entire party wants or the entire country but we need to elect the best for our country.
Your comment about medieval morality we have aborted over 40 million childen and you consider opposing that medieval I suggest a rethink on that one!
Squids you do quite well applying your own tar and feathers we do not need to help you.
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Sifo
Posted on Sunday, October 21, 2012 - 05:57 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I think the best man on the street political interview was during the 2004 RNC. Sean Hannity interviewed a bunch of the people protesting Bush. So these aren't just random people on the street, these are politically active protesters engaged enough to protest at the RNC. They should be slightly knowledgeable, right? This was done live too, so there was not editing, or searching for those that just looked ignorant, what ever that look may be. He did a long bit discussing with these people what they liked about the Jim Kerney/Stu Ped ticket that the Democrats had running against Bush. Amazingly, not a single person had the wits to say John Kerry was the candidate. They were just as gullible about Jim and Stu's political positions.

I can pretty much guarantee you that you won't find that sort of thing at a group of Tea Party folks.
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Aesquire
Posted on Sunday, October 21, 2012 - 11:38 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

...consider opposing that medieval I suggest a rethink on that one!

You are making a false assumption. I assume that is your hot button issue.

I admit blue laws ( selling booze on sunday ) are not in the same category as imposing Sharia..... but they are not the only medieval idiocies that political parties inherit from some of their base.

Just think about it. Where religion & government work hand in hand.... You will find many laws that the Bishop wants, to end "sin" and the gangster loves, because it is his profit. The Politician gets influenced by both.

Sifo, just saw a video ( here, I think ) where bussed in and paid SEIU members were protesting a Romney event. Ignorance on a cosmic scale. ( and yes, on video, some telling the reporter how much they were paid. $11 hour. )

If you edit out the majority of folk who are not stupid, you could compile an idiot video at a tea party group, ( I bet you could at a Mensa meeting, too. You just have to be picky enough to get that one sound bite. )
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Kenm123t
Posted on Sunday, October 21, 2012 - 11:50 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Aes When the preservation of the unborn is called medieval thats a sick mind.
Principles and values are what civilized men Infanticide is not a sign of civilization its the sign of the barbarian.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, October 22, 2012 - 08:26 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

If you really want to discuss the history of abortion and abortificants on a thread mocking John Stewart for not knowing the difference between Debt and deficit... go ahead.

I did not call the preservation of the unborn medieval.

I picked "blue laws" off the top of my head. It was Sunday... where you can't have a beer before Church lets out. That's a law. A law promoted by pastors to eliminate competition, that has no bearing on other faiths ( what if the sacred day is Tuesday? ) or rational thought.

There is a long list of screwy, obsolete, and just plain stupid laws and attitudes in government and society.

There are also a long list of great ideas, principles and laws that have excellent, rational thought behind them.

You will find that the "anti-god" AND fascist-religious ( only mine is right and you must be murdered if you mock me!!! ) types reject the great ideas ( "all men are created equal" ) along with the silly.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, October 22, 2012 - 08:40 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I agree with you on Ron Paul.

I've long since resigned myself to never, ever having a politician play to my mix of wants. Fiscal conservationist/social libertarian will never get targeted, for the simple reason that it will annoy half the people. Period. ( even if many actually feel that way, but don't know it. )

John Stewart usually seems pretty bright. I have to guess he got the debt/deficit thing mixed up and his writers team didn't make things clear to him. It was his MAJOR talking point, how "Bush created more debt than Obama". So Obama is doing BETTER than Bush.

Instead Obama, IF he is re-elected, will have accumulated more debt than every president in the last two centuries plus.... combined.
He already has signed into being more debt than every president from George Washington to George Bush. ( have to check the numbers on that one.. might only be through Clinton... )

Stewart also somehow got the impression the Clinton had erased the Debt.

I wonder if he knows the truth, even now?
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Ulyranger
Posted on Monday, October 22, 2012 - 09:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have never mistaken stewart for being smart, or informed. Witty, timely? Yes.

So to answer the original question........yes, john stewart really is that ignorant and is so wrapped up in his ideology that he can't even fathom there is an alternative view.
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Sifo
Posted on Monday, October 22, 2012 - 10:42 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Aesquire, How do you associate blue line laws with either being associated with the Tea Party or medieval?

I think if you were honest about it you might find the Tea Party tends to be more Libertarian than the old Democrat party. There's a lot of misinformation about the Tea Party out there. I wasn't sure about the Tea Party myself until I went to some of their events. And by events, I'm not talking protests. I'm talking about meetings held in conference rooms where informed speakers talk about a chosen subject and have an open Q&A session with lots of open discussion. Lots can be learned in that sort of meeting.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, October 22, 2012 - 11:08 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

wow, how did medieval idiocy and the Tea party get put together in your interpretation of my comments?

I'm of the opinion that a R Party with more fiscal conservation ( like the Tea Party ) less medieval morality ( like the Tea Party ) and more Libertarian, ( like some D's USED to be ) platform would be far better than the old farts we have now.

Lets' see, positive comments, for tea party = 2
For Dems in the Pre-progressive/pre-socialist days = 1 ( might have to go pre-Wilson )
Negative comments on Tea party = 0

NO comment on the "old farts"? Guess I got that right to everyone's satisfaction.

Also I noticed no response on MY depiction ( correctly ) of the D's as the Party of the Klan, Jim Crow, and the Vietnam war. ( both starting and ending badly )

I still don't know if Squids agrees?

Sorry my comments misled you to think I said something completely different. I'll try to be clearer.
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, October 22, 2012 - 11:13 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I also misinterpreted that statement. Thanks for clarifying.
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Sifo
Posted on Monday, October 22, 2012 - 11:14 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

less medieval morality ( like the Tea Party )

I read that to mean that you want less legislation of morality and that you were pointing to the Tea Party as an example of those who are pushing morality legislation. Sorry if I took that wrongly. I'll cancel the hit I put out on you.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, October 22, 2012 - 11:21 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Blue laws = medieval because it is the Chuch/State together, as it was in the Dark Ages. You Can't have a Beer in bar at 8am on Sunday in some places because it's competition with the Dominant Religion. Enforced by the police powers of the Government.

Not Sharia, by any means, but not freedom of choice, either.

Typically Blue Laws ignore ALL the other faiths holy days. What if you were 7th day Adventist? No assistance in keeping the monopoly on Saturday from the local police for them, eh?

The Tea party has diddle to do with this. As a fiscal conservative group that has tried to avoid the competing religious issues and push a more libertarian stance on government messing with your life, I got no problems with them.

Am I misinterpreting the Tea Party? ( wouldn't be the first time I was wrong )

( I picked Blue Laws for an example because they are common, and the least button pushing morality imposition laws I could think of off the top of my head. Unless you have a loved one killed on the way to Church by a Criminal Sunday Drunk... in which case... sorry for your loss. )
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Sifo
Posted on Monday, October 22, 2012 - 11:28 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

It sounds like you have a decent understanding of the Tea Party. I just had a misread on what you had said earlier. Clarified now thanks.

I took a more literal view of blue laws being medieval. I had never heard of these laws back then. Now I understand what you are saying though. I agree with you BTW. If I want to buy a six pack on Sunday AM, that's my business. I need something to drink at church!
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Hootowl
Posted on Monday, October 22, 2012 - 11:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"I need something to drink at church!"

Wine and wafers are available. : )
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Sifo
Posted on Monday, October 22, 2012 - 11:38 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'm more of a beer and pretzels type.
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Moxnix
Posted on Monday, October 22, 2012 - 12:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd like to hold politics and comedians in contempt at this juncture, but it's like spitting into the wind. I'll go pick on someone smaller than myself.
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Aesquire
Posted on Monday, October 22, 2012 - 09:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I'd like to hold politics and comedians in contempt at this juncture

Politicians, sure, talk show hosts, sure. Comedians? Don't feel contempt for them, unlike politicians, they entertain. ( if they are good )

What's the difference between a politician and a stripper? A stripper gives you performance for your money.
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B00stzx3
Posted on Wednesday, October 24, 2012 - 02:20 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Colbert is 1000x better than Stewart anyways. Wouldn't doubt that O'Reilly and Stewart are both part of the vast bear-biased agenda.
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