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Datsaxman
Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2017 - 10:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Interesting update on the ayokohama...

1) i never put used tyres on ... evah. But the same size, same model Yoko went on just fine for me. One guy, brand new tyre, tyre soap and two pair of decent levers. The key to it - with any tyre! - is the soap, and getting the bead wayy down into the center of the wheel. Needing a machine, and three guys??? Sounds like trying to muscle it on instead of being patient and doing it right.

2) yeah,the grinder thing. Now THAT is something i just would not do to a tyre. Hoping for a long n happy life for you and that rear tyre.

3) why not just get another Yoko in 195??? About $110 for a shiny new one, delivered. No clearance issues.

Dat
Sax
Man
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Nillaice
Posted on Monday, July 17, 2017 - 07:43 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Froggy,
really?

Dat
Sax
Man,
After reading your experiences I was inspired and I wanted to try it out. the used tire was a cheap way to test it out for myself.
yeah, those guys on the east coast didn't have the same tire machine with the second arm to keep the bead of the tire down in the valley of the rim. This guy knew what he was doing and Since I was buying it from the tire shop this time, they mounted it for free. Id love to see you mount one with spoons. I'll bring the beer and a bucket full of curse words to help convince the tire on.

I used a belt sander to rub off the lettering on the 205/45. Same on this 205/50, but the belt guard was still in the way, so I took it off and I'll have to make a different one. I expect a full life from this new tire.

I wanted a taller sidewall and I couldn't find a 195/50 or 55 r17. I just baby powdered the runbber to check the clearance and it looks like the 205/50r17 fits, all be it with some sanding, spacers under the mudguard and removing the lower belt guard.

I would not recommend anyone try this on thier uly with anything bigger.
I'd strongly suggest to find a 195/55R17 I'll start shopping around for one in 40,000 miles or so
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Froggy
Posted on Monday, July 17, 2017 - 10:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Yep, mostly for the curiosity of it, and probably on my Uly as that gets pretty much boring commuting duty these days, I got 6 other bikes to carve corners with.

Given the difficulty mounting I guess it might not happen for me, I had a tire machine and still got frustrated with doing tires myself that I gave up and went back to paying a shop to do it. I doubt shops would be willing to mount a car tire for liability reasons.
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Datsaxman
Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2017 - 02:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Some car shops will, some won't. Fact.

Some tires that are labelled the same are different sizes. Fact.

Some car tires work quite well, others do not. Opinion.

The more i read about folks having trouble installing tires, the more i wonder what the heck they are doing. It is all pretty easy, with just some long irons, and Ru-Glyde lube/soap, and a little knowhow.

I havent found any 195/xx-17 bigger than xx = 45.

I found 40s, but no 50s or larger.

I stopped running the CT (and the 130/80 Metzeler on the front) on the Ulysses some time ago. But I still have a CT on the Kawasaki Concours. It is geared pretty high, so the low profile is no problem. Gives up a few percent in the road speed / engine speed ratio.

Concours runs 21mph / 1000rpm in sixth with the short rear tire. And redlines at 11,000. So a few percent is no big deal.

On the Ulysses, i never went offroad, but did big mileage rides sometimes. On the highway, it always felt a little undergeared. Biggest rear tire is best!
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Nillaice
Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2017 - 08:03 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

well it feels closer to stock gearing off the line. speedo indicates 60, gps shows 57.
seems like a lot of hassle for not a lot of change from the 45 sidewall profile.

come to think of it I never bothered checked my speedo with a regular MC tire ... I just took the LEO's word on it
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