| Author | Message | ||
     Hughlysses |
I just stumbled on this article of interest: http://www.jsonline.com/business/chinese-investmen t-firm-looking-closely-at-wisconsin-0k719lt-171633 491.html  | ||
| 86129squids |
Very interesting... I guess I should be used to sloppy journalism by now, "Eric" again? Also thought it interesting that the fund director's name is "Riskind". Hoping positive things come from all this. | ||
| Reepicheep |
Also interesting that Eri[ck] Buell Racing and "Delta Hawk Engines" are in both geographic proximity, and listed close together in the discussions. Probably a coincidence, but I'm still hoping for a direct injection two stroke motorcycle someday. | ||
| 86129squids |
 RINGADINGDINGDGING, in an EBR,oh yeaahhh! | ||
| Bob_thompson |
I guess I like any good business for EBR if its in their best interest to further a true American brand, something they have always stood by and promoted, "the only American made sport bike" With that said I also know Buells and EBR's have always used the best parts from all over the world to make the best bike available for the money. If a deal is reached with Chinese investors I just hope the flow will be exporting and not importing if products are involved. We already are buying enough "junk" from China but importing their money as investments only would be great for Erik and the Elves. Just keep control of their own destiny and not what happened with HD. Erik did well going to Austria for Rotax engines and other countries for other parts and that was fine given their quality but Chinese anything? Give me a break. Wouldn't it be marvelous if EBR got to a point in the market place where investors from anywhere, even China, were making double digit profits on their investments. YA! | ||
| Bob_thompson |
Almost forgot this part of the article: "Riskind said PiYi will put money into the U.S. by: Forming a real estate fund that will invest $3 billion in real estate over the next four to five years; creating strategic investment funds with states such as the one being negotiated with Wisconsin; and making investments directly in selected companies." China has, for years, buying up real estate all over this country and that also worries me somewhat. I do not want to see a brand new manufacturing building put up for EBR with Chinese money where they would control that property, might be a loosing deal someday. Just take their money as the ONLY investment. Lets turn this enormous flow of and money going out of this country to coming in by less imports and more exports. (Message edited by Bob_thompson on September 28, 2012) | ||
| Cowboy |
If thier BIKES are any thing like thier FOOD everyone is a winner. he he | ||
| Davegess |
Erik is way past getting his future hog tied by someone else. He has outstanding financial and business advisers these days. Folks whose goal is his success not helping their own pocketbooks. This could be good. | ||
| Xl1200r |
As a starting business, I understand the need to look for cash wherever it may be. I just wish some of our millionaires would put up. Would love to see an American sport bike built with American money, again. | ||
| Natexlh1000 |
Yeee! a Diesel V-4 Buell!! Bring it! | ||
| Mtjm2 |
What xl1200r said. | ||
| Geedee |
Bob thompson, you might be interested in looking at a couple of links. "Demystifying Chinese investors and their motivations for outbound investment is a key feature of the 2012 Summit. Led by PiYi Investment, several Chinese private investors will be profiled during a fireside chat style discussion introducing their backgrounds, investment interest, and expectations in coming to the US." http://www.piyiinvestment.com/downloads/us.pdf From another source: "In some countries, too, private equity funds are unlikely to be satisfied with returns in the low double digits: according to Clark Zhang, director PiYi Investments, many investors in China would view 20 per cent rate of return a loss." http://wislb.org/ | ||
| Bob_thompson |
Interesting read Gary(Geedee), and I just heard on Fox network news tonight about China buying up a whole wind farm in, I believe, Washington state. If the trend keeps up China will soon become the major real estate owners in the U.S. That is definitely a WTF. I know many of our states are in financial trouble but that is just the wrong way to alleviate financial trouble. I also think the monetary investments for a return on those investments are fine but lets just not let China, or any country buy up our land or businesses. If they want to invest and get a financial return, fine but WE NEED TO STAY SOVEREIGN. All the while sending them billions in aid. Just plain wrong. | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
We are seeing what occured in the 80's with Japanese investors buying everything they could get their hands on in the US. Some they still own. A lot they don't. I don't really care who owns what land. They can't take it with them. We WANT foreign investment. We want as many foreign companies buying as much land, building as many factories, and hiring as many American workers as we can attract in. That is the ONLY way we are going to reverse the tide of manufacturing job loss and high unemployment. If you want the middle class median income to rise, you MUST increase competition for American labor. There simply isn't any other way to do that. LOVE to see Chinese, German, French, Belgian, Japanese, etc. plants cropping up in every state hiring US workers by the thousands. US workers are STILL the most productive in the world. For each unit of labor purchased, companies receive MORE product produced. Couple of interesting graphs:   The first graph shows the graph between output and cost of labor compared to other developed nations. The second illustrates the nominal cost of labor as compared to other nations. American labor is a bargain. Wages can rise and it would STILL be a bargain. | ||
| Wolfridgerider |
Would love to see an American sport bike built with American money, again. Where do you think those Chinese investors got the money to begin with??  | ||
| Ducxl |
WHEW! Thanks Jeremy.Your post(GEEDEE too) just brought me back from the brink of an anti tirade  . Nice explaination.Message to China:C'mon over,and bring cash! HEHEHE! Cowboy is right too.I LOVE me a steaming bowl of PHO' BO! | ||
| Cityxslicker |
hmmm I thought HERO already had a large foothold poised in that region of the world, and a good bit of money of their own. |
