| Author | Message | ||
     Johnnymceldoo |
Listen to their words http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWVL7TptQ24&feature =youtube_gdata_player | ||
| Crusty |
I think they're both lying assholes, and I have nobody to vote for. However, there's always someone to vote against. That's going to be the tone of this election. Oh; I have no intention of listening to 13+ minutes of opinions. Quite frankly, I don't give a damn about what some jamoke thinks about the candidates. | ||
| Moxnix |
Voting against the revenge seeking petty marxist will be no problem for me. Voting for the well-set cricket stomper will be, but I'll hold my nose and do it, knowing full well what he'll do and not do despite campaign promises. | ||
| Fb1 |
Voting against the revenge seeking petty marxist will be no problem for me. You mean this guy:
I have to hold my nose every time I hear him speak. | ||
| Brumbear |
I might as well write in GOOFY | ||
| Cyclonedon |
One canidate thinks the middle class American income is around $250,000.00 per year. I think he's a little out of touch with reality to be my president. | ||
| Fb1 |
Good point.
Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/14/romney-mi ddle-income_n_1883819.html | ||
| Reindog |
I presume you are referring to Romney. Obama believes that individuals and sole proprietorships that earn $250K makes one rich. Are you kidding me? Please don't fall into the class warfare trap as it will bite you. Notice how Obama isn't indexing "being rich" with inflation. Eventually, we will all be "rich" so don't be fooled. A person earning $250K in Kalifornia is hardly rich even today. Far from it. Think, my friend. (Message edited by reindog on September 19, 2012) | ||
| Johnnymceldoo |
Out of touch? As if either of these men are like us! Don't kid yourself. | ||
| Kenm123t |
In So Fla 250k is marginal I pay about 40k for property taxes and Insurance on real estate I already own. Figure that and a effective tax rate of48% For a family kid in school college health insurance etc 250k is marginal | ||
| Fb1 |
Out of touch? As if either of these men are like us! Don't kid yourself. With all due respect to ALL the presidential candidates this year, we have two choices come November. One man is a proven disaster. The other is a proven leader. No kidding. | ||
| Aesquire |
As if either of these men are like us! Of course not. They are successful, and we are not. You sure aren't one of them..... Are YOU on tv? Does Ellen sing your praises? Oprah sell your book? Do school teachers teach their classes Hymns to sing your praises? Did you get a sweet deal on your home because a felon helped you? Did your career get started in the living room of a mass murdering revolutionary? Have you claimed the power to murder anyone you want, or hold them, in secret, without trial, if YOU suspect they are a suspect for terrorism? Have YOUR minions declared that Terrorists include people who love that silly Constitution too much? Have you made millions on 2 biographies, published before you were 50, full of half truths, outright lies, and supposedly written by the same murdering anarcho-communist that helped you start your career? ( and bragged that his only regret was not killing more pigs. On Sept 11, 2001. On a radio talk show. ) etc. etc. You're not the other guy either...Did you give over a million over your life to charity? Stop your business because an employee's daughter went missing and you took the company to look for her? Have you made many other people rich by investing your money in businesses? etc. etc. Now, I don't like Romney. He's not of my culture, and there are policy differences that are pretty profound. If he is elected, expect me to be loud and clear about my opposition to some of his ideas, and actions. If need be, I will protest in public, daring arrest, and speaking the truth as I know it. OTOH we have rising unemployment, BECAUSE of Obama's policies, rising energy prices, BECAUSE of Obama's policies, Inflation, Because of Obama's policies, and a deteriorating situation world wide in the middle of a multifaceted war. Some, of which is due to Obama's policies... like supporting the overthrow of the govs of Egypt, Libya...... But not Iran? Obama will not admit who the enemy is, except YOU. To be fair, Bush did not either... So, no. They are not like us. Did YOU run? Do you have the charisma, the money, the connections? I don't. I don't even want the job. SO. As previously stated, I will vote for anything vaguely mammalian over Barry. Saying there is no difference is the propaganda of the loser. | ||
| Fb1 |
One canidate thinks the middle class American income is around $250,000.00 per year. I think he's a little out of touch with reality to be my president. Don, if you're referring to Romney, you've misquoted him. If it's Romney, here's the link to the interview where he said what you misquoted. It comes at about the 13:00 mark: http://www.therightscoop.com/full-interview-mitt-r omney-talks-with-george-stephanopolous/ If it's 0bama you were referring to, please accept my apology. Interestingly, according to the Huffington Post, 0bama's definition of "middle income" is nearly identical to Romney's. Does anyone actually know what the "textbook" definition of middle income is dollar-wise? It's funny, in a not-comical sort of way, how often success is vilified these days here in America. We've all got the same opportunities to achieve success. Some make it, some don't. And yet, oftentimes the ones who make it are castigated for their success, as if they've done something wrong. I find that an odd concept here in America, that someone should be made to feel guilty for being successful. I don't think class warfare is a concept the Founders ever envisioned would take root here in the land of the free and the home of the brave. Our current Pres is sure good at it, though... | ||
| Fb1 |
Snark on. Full disclaimer: I can barely stomach listening to this man talk. If you don't have this particular ailment, give this a quick watch and see if there's ANYTHING he said that sounds like he has a single frikkin' clue as to what he's actually saying: Blah, blah, frikkin' blah, with an extra dollop of "Oh crap, you actually asked me what our national debt is? FARK! It's, uh, a LOT, Dave, but make no mistake, I've got a plan to get it under control." Wow, thank dog for that. By the way, the Big 0 kept referring to him and Letterman being in the same stratosphere income-wise. Really, Mr. President? Man, if that's true, I think he's a little out of touch with reality to be my president. Snark out. | ||
| Fb1 |
Sorry, one more snark before I call it a day: Mr. President, here's a cheat sheet you can print out and study before the debates, you know, in case you get asked any hard questions, like, um, how much is our federal debt. It'll be a lot more by then, of course, but this should get you in the ball park and keep you from sounding so absolutely clueless. You're welcome.  | ||
| Fb1 |
Folks, I'm sorry, but this is like shooting fish in a barrel. 0bama says, when asked by Letterman, who do we owe all that money (remember: it's 16T and counting, Mr. Pres..) to, and the Big 0 does what he gets paid to do and says, well hell, a lot of it we owe to ourselves. That's it. Just US. Which I guess makes it all OK. Nothing to see here, please move along.  Mr. Pres, here's another piece of intel you should prolly bone up on, as well. (BTW: Nice save on the Letterman show, though - the collective gasp from the audience if you hadda replied China would have sucked you right out of your seat). The Biggest Holders of US Government Debt, by ranking, as of 02/2012: 1. Federal Reserve and Intragovernmental Holdings 2. China 3. Other Investors/Savings Bonds 4. Japan 5. Pension Funds 6. Mutual Funds 7. State and Local Governments 8. The United Kingdom 9. Depository Institutions 10. Insurance Companies What, you want a source? Look it up; I did. | ||
| Aesquire |
I just re-read my rant above.... The biased partisan part, Where I picked the things I don't like about Obama, and the things I do about Romney... That's natural politics, and not dishonest, just one sided. I'd have made Romney's list longer, but I just didn't know enough bad things about the guy. It's not really an apology, it's just that Romney hasn't had a chance to srew me over, yet. ( always a good reason to AGAINST the incumbent. Simple self preservation. ) The Important part of my rant is simply that Romney is "not of my Culture." Nor is Obama. I'm not of theirs, either. Nor yours, perhaps. It is a good question to ask, is this candidate, even close to my culture, my ideals? Our Culture, the American, fragmented, do your own thing, uptight, stew of attitudes. I don't expect ANY politician to completely share my views. I'm a social Liberal, fiscal Conservationist hawk. That's just not a good mix to sell to the voters, Doesn't have pizzazz. "I won't tell you how to live, and we'll fix roads, defend the land, live by the laws, and argue about them. Let's make sure the kids are safe... and follow the "an it harm no other, do as you will" philosophy." Isn't the campaign speech that gets you taken seriously.  | ||
| Crusty |
The other is a proven leader If you're referring to Mitt the Zit, you're living in a Fantasy World. I had him for a Governor, and am convinced that he has an extreme case of rectal occulitis. He'd have trouble leading a Conga Line. (Message edited by Crusty on September 20, 2012) | ||
| Fb1 |
He'd have trouble leading a Conga Line. Yeah, I can tell: I bet the Preezy could pull it off, though: Quite frankly, I don't give a damn about what some jamoke thinks about the candidates. So why should I put any stock in your opinion of Mitt Romney? Serious question. You've had a first-hand to see the man in action, apparently. Am I way off base in my support of Mr. Romney? Do I, too, have an extreme case of rectal occulitis? Help me and the eleventy billion other Americans who are absolutely disgusted to their very core with the miserable, petty, vain, in-way-over-his-head little dictator currently driving our country to ruin learn more about the ONLY candidate this election who has a chance of unseating the ch0zen 0ne. Or not. Best regards, J. A. Moke | ||
| Fb1 |
Hey cool, you edited in "Zit" while I was composing my post above. Mitt the Zit. Harsh criticism, indeed. Yeah, I see your point: How could anyone called Mitt the Zit be expected to do a good job as President. What was I thinking?  | ||
| Rich |
Lots of people say they'll write in Dr.Paul. Others have told me they'll vote for Gary Johnson, who will be on the ballot in some places. | ||
| Old_guy |
Write ins and third party candidate votes will only insure an Obama win  | ||
| Johnnymceldoo |
Even if mitt is everything MSNBC says he is, he hasnt pitted Americans against each other with carefully thought out rhetoric and policy. He hasn't used language and policy to scare business, investors and energy producers during a poor and declining economy. I can't blame anyone for not watching the video. It carefully lays out empty hope and promises to Americans eager and hopeful America will bounce back. | ||
| Oldog |
You may not like fox news but consider this.. http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/19/tax-pen alty-to-hit-nearly-6m-uninsured-people/?test=lates tnews Then please explain how the big 0 has made things better. Voting for any one but Romney is a vote for 0 | ||
| Macbuell |
Even if you hate Romney, an honest, intelligent observer would have to concede that Obama should be fired before he does more damage to this country to the point we cannot recover. If you really don't like Romney, fire Obama and then fire Romney in 4 years. The amount of damage Obama could do if given another 4 years is simply inconceivable. Romney would at least stem the tide and then if he doesn't do a good enough job, he could be fired in 4 years too. (Message edited by macbuell on September 20, 2012) | ||
| Fb1 |
But Oldog, 0bama says things are going great, he just needs more time! Yeah, right:  I shudder to imagine what this country would look like with four more years of this guy. Heck, the way it's going right now we'll be lucky to make it to the elections... | ||
| Moxnix |
I await the "October surprise" that makes B. Hussein O. look like a leader. He'll botch that too. Hear he, wife and kids, have rented a Hawaii estate for January, since only in a world where good is bad and bad is good could a chap like this get re-elected. Uh, oh oh. Romney. Romney. The Mormon mafia in the CIA and FBI will suddenly have more activity, vying for position, climbing the ladder to power like some secret society cult who want . . . uh, wait a minute, it is a secret society cult. Oh, no. | ||
| Fb1 |
Mox, I think we're seeing the October Surprise early this time (read Middle East), and instead of it being something that makes him look like a leader, it's class warfare taken to a whole new level. Might we be seeing the foundation being laid for the possibility of declaring martial law (y'know, just in case things don't go well on Nov. 6th)? Here's Breitbart's thoughts on the October Surprise; they're going in a totally different direction than me. For now, anyway:
On a different note: Big fan of the Mormons, are ya?  | ||
| Teeps |
Like a run away train; we're headed for disaster with either choice. The choice, we do have, is how fast we get there... Wreck of the Old 97 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=et3fVvAbL7k Locomotive Breath http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uCcwNoVSt2E | ||
| Moxnix |
http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/religion/joseph- smith/ http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/religion/cult/l- ron-hubbard/ http://www.rotten.com/library/bio/religion/mary-ba ker-eddy/ Not so much, nor a fan of Moonies, Jehova's Witlesses, Scientologists, Whirling Dervish, Wahhabi, 7th Day Inventors, and all the other skewy churches. Actually, some years ago I produced some papers for a client on the the roots of neuro-linguistic programing in brainwashing, going back to the Egyptian schools of magic predating Christ. Upper level Masonry, Skull & Bones, etc. All have overlapping threads that bind them. Mormons are okay to live around as long as you don't do business with them, or fall into their "blood sacrifice" vendetta activities. So, no. Mitt has been part of a mental manipulation closed group since birth. Just as Obama has with all the commies in his life and current circle. For the client, I developed a program to "thought reform process" a person, read: "brainwash," then deprogram them in a manner which permanently inoculated them against being ever being brainwashed again. Works fine for agents in the field. | ||
| Oldog |
For our not so sure denizens check this report out I realy don't think that 0 is into a level playing field. read for your self and decide http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/20/10-part -report-raises-questions-about-narrative-obama-ear ly-life/ | ||
| Oldog |
For your further consideration... http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials/090612-62 4854-justice-department-action-against-gallup-susp iciously-follows-intimidation.htm?ven=OutBrainCP further http://news.investors.com/ibd-editorials-perspecti ve/091912-626275-obama-redistribution-fallacy-has- grave-consequences.htm?src=SThru |
