| Author | Message | ||
     Hootowl |
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| Ft_bstrd |
$16,000 isn't a bad price. | ||
| Oldog |
220 mile range, electric, 120mph top speed, at 16 k I would have to consider it... I wonder if its heated and air conditioned? think the jetzons (Message edited by oldog on August 30, 2012) | ||
| Two_seasons |
Nice shape...I'm talking about the cage  | ||
| 6gears |
Is it bad that I am already wondering what it would look like flat black with tinted glass and maybe a rear spoiler?? LOL | ||
| Ft_bstrd |
Looks like there might be enough room for a tandem seat. | ||
| Cityxslicker |
http://thenewcaferacersociety.blogspot.com/2008/03 /vintage-1980-gm-lean-machine.html always fascinated with this back from the days of when Popular Mechanics was 'porn' | ||
| Slowride |
I can't wait to see a real working prototype. It was being pushed and pulled around on a sled in that video. The feet down concept is cool... | ||
| Darth_villar |
I have had a hankering to build a recumbent motorcycle for a while... just to see what could be done, utilizing a canopy of course, and a spare busa engine. This is a commuterish step in that direction, I think it has potential. | ||
| Sparky |
It's not on a sled if I'm to believe the twin gyros that keep it oriented upright as shown on their website graphic.  | ||
| Mr_grumpy |
That's going to be great in a bumpy corner when the gyros stand you up.  | ||
| Sifo |
I wonder if the gyros will let it lean in a corner in the first place. Most of the video seems to be animated and doesn't seem to show it going through a turn. The actual footage is at very slow speeds, but still doesn't look like a bike even at those low speeds. It just sits straight up. It might be kind of interesting, but just seems like driving a 2 wheel car. I like the fact that a bike leans over in turns! | ||
| Hootowl |
Pretty sure it leans. Why would it have motorcycle tires on it if it didn't lean? With proper input to the gyros, they can even initiate the lean. There must be some input from the steering wheel to the gyros. | ||
| Sifo |
You could be right about the lean thing. I watched the video again, and they do show it lean, at least in some animated video. Either way, there are aspects that I like about it. There are also aspects that I don't care for. It might be a cool winter vehicle though. I'm not big on riding snow covered streets on a bike. I would certainly take this over a Smart car!  | ||
| Hootowl |
From the video on their web site, it seems obvious that they're in the very early stages of development. They may not have the lean-while-turning thing figured out. That's going to be a software function. | ||
| Sifo |
It would take the fear out of a lowside crash. I wonder if the gyros would be able to prevent the highside crash that would result though. I can imagine what people will do by hacking the software. You could have it leaned way over while going in a straight line.  | ||
| Hootowl |
I don't think that's possible. A gyro can only compensate for instantaneous input forces. It can't compensate for an inherent imbalance. | ||
| Reepicheep |
I love how these companies these days produce slick brochures, detailed pricing, detailed performance specifications, and completed styling exercises... for vehicles that don't even exist yet. We need to get back to the old days of "build something that works first". Kudos to EBR for *not* doing this. | ||
| Chauly |
"I would certainly take this over a Smart car! " Hey! Chill, man...  (Message edited by Chauly on August 31, 2012) | ||
| Hootowl |
Just occurred to me: Once moving, they wouldn't need gyro stabilization except to control lean angle during a low/high side, side impact, or very low speed maneuvers. The gyros would be unlocked from the chassis. You could lean at will without affecting the gyros. | ||
| Dcc46 |
Thats pretty cool, actually looks like fun to drive. Unlike a smart car where you need a rubber nose and clown shoes to look at home. | ||
| Sifo |
Just occurred to me: Once moving, they wouldn't need gyro stabilization except to control lean angle during a low/high side, side impact, or very low speed maneuvers. The gyros would be unlocked from the chassis. You could lean at will without affecting the gyros. Interesting thoughts. I wonder how that would work in the real world. I don't know if there would be any problems with gyro drift while disconnected from the chassis or not. It might make for some interesting antics when it reconnects. It's probably just details to get everything worked out though. The whole thing kind of reminds me of one of these...  It's hard to tell in the photo, but it's a three wheeler made by BMW. I see one parked all the time not too far from home. I freaked out this year when I saw one on the road for the first time and realized it leans like a bike! Ironically it shares the same name as the gyrobike above... C1. Add doors to the BMW version and they are functionally very similar. The BMW failed on the sales floor, that may be a bad sign for the new C1. EDIT: I was just reading about the C1 and it was a 2 wheeler, but they did make a 3 wheeler that looked very similar to this. If I find an image I'll post it up. (Message edited by SIFO on August 31, 2012) |
