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Xdigitalx
Posted on Sunday, August 12, 2012 - 12:42 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

how in the * does this happen with todays tech?? Our guys sleeping on the job??? (or trying to start something?) I don't get it.

http://news.yahoo.com/us-navy-ship-collides-oil-ta nker-gulf-081342532.html
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Malott442
Posted on Sunday, August 12, 2012 - 01:28 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That's pretty wild. I've been told that if a sub is coming up to surface, it is most likely to have a collision at that time because it is "blind" to what is at the surface.

But an oil tanker seems hard to miss.
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Hootowl
Posted on Sunday, August 12, 2012 - 02:39 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The strait of hormuz is narrow, littered with oil rigs, is one of the busiest passages in the world, and it was dark. I'm surprised there aren't more incidents.

The Captain will be relieved. It was his fault. Even if it wasn't.
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Two_seasons
Posted on Sunday, August 12, 2012 - 06:34 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Malott442:
No blind spot when sub is surfacing! Called "tophat" sonar. Used to work on them "back in the day"

Hootowl:
Gobs of traffic through that "little bit of water". You are correct about all the obstructions but, doubt that captain will be relieved because of this incident. Now if the CO was on the bridge when it happened and he was paying more attention to his "sea stories" than his duties, then yes, his next duty assignment may be a desk out in Kansas!

I was involved in an incident during my USN career on the Mississippi river. My sub tender, while passing a freighter on our way up to New Orleans for liberty call (we had just finished retrain in Gitmo after the shipyards) struck the freighter and we had a gaping hole at the O2N2 plant, just above the water line. Fortunately for the crew, no one was operating the plant, (against underway rules, but you know how that goes sometimes) otherwise the ship might have blown up and we would have been a sampler platter for the alligators

Never saw so many Admirals around my ship while we were docked in New Orleans! We returned to the shipyards when we returned home to Norfolk several days later.

Carry on gentlemen
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Hootowl
Posted on Sunday, August 12, 2012 - 08:56 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I will bet you a dollar the Captain is relieved. Standard procedure.
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Hootowl
Posted on Sunday, August 12, 2012 - 08:58 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I have been through there many times. The CO was always on the bridge for the transit. Doesn't matter though. It is always the CO's fault if the ship hits something.
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Torquehd
Posted on Sunday, August 12, 2012 - 11:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

i'm starting the rumor, it's a conspiracy because Obama hates fossil fuels. Just like that BP job.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Monday, August 13, 2012 - 12:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

1 am, emcon, lights off, sonar off, propulsion at zero.....
yep, could happen easy enough - and has several times.

The other portion of it ... and it is not listed as if it happened at the time, but their is the practice of 'pilotage' for ships in areas that are 'foreign' or visiting - ie during refuelling to a local port, a LOCAL Captain will guide the boat under supervision from the US Commander.... it was a key factor in how the Cole got itself involved in an incident that was rammed by the boat. - that boat was ferrying the 'pilotage' Captain.
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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, August 30, 2012 - 01:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Inevitable. CO is relieved of command.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/08/30/navy-destroye r-commander-removed-from-job-after-collision-outsi de-strait-hormuz/?test=latestnews
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