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Speedfreaks101
Posted on Tuesday, July 24, 2012 - 09:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

With the news of Mr. Buell's expanded venture I am more interested in the projects that were scrapped and might see life again.

What is known about the Griffin (especially) or other models that did not reach full production?
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Froggy
Posted on Tuesday, July 24, 2012 - 10:11 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Here is everything on Griffin:

  • Dirt bike
  • They didn't make it into production.
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Tuesday, July 24, 2012 - 10:33 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

^^^^ Not true !
Theres a whole posting Rooster Channel devoted to the dirty beast that 'never' existed.

and I am sure Court is hoarding several stories that we will have to remind him about sometime.

until then -
Drool over at US Highlands , Aprilia, KTM, Benelli, BMW (as we were weeks away from the Cagivia buyout on that set up before it went the way of Husky/BMW before the MV Augusta fiascio - of course that will never be confirmed nor denied by any,
but that 450 swapped hands many times in a three month period before she became BMW .

and of course Hero Moto has a dirty bike.....
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Court
Posted on Wednesday, July 25, 2012 - 05:25 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>> or other models that did not reach full production?

I actually did a chapter, when Dave and I wrote 25 Years of Buell, on "rare and unusual Buells". With a lot of help from 1313 and some of the other R&D Elves who kept their photos, it was a fun summary of things ranging from the Peter Max S3, the turbo and some other interesting exercises.

Like the bikes . . . the chapter was "close, but no cigar".
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Crackhead
Posted on Wednesday, July 25, 2012 - 08:31 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Court, have you seen what the books are going for on Amazon?
Might I suggest a reprint with additional chapters up until the end of Buell.
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Wednesday, July 25, 2012 - 09:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

there was a triple too, right?
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Tq_freak
Posted on Wednesday, July 25, 2012 - 10:10 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

got any pictures of the Peter Max S3? that would be awesome to see.
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Hybridmomentspass
Posted on Wednesday, July 25, 2012 - 11:15 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"Theres a whole posting Rooster Channel devoted to the dirty beast that 'never' existed. "

Could you explain this more, is that a website or what?

I do remember reading in an article not too long ago about a MX sort of coach that apparently had one of his riders that was a tester for the bike. It was a brief paragraph in an article in cycle world or motorcyclist, cant remember which and I think I threw the issue away.

It'd have been nice to see what he (erik) came up with, how it competed against the others, how much crap it caught from the dirt world (vs how much street ones get)
I know there were some patents posted and it looked interesting, like gas under the seat if Im not mistaken.

We'll see what comes in the future.
I'd love to have a Griffin style bike from EBR someday
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Natexlh1000
Posted on Wednesday, July 25, 2012 - 12:08 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This:

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/270 985/270985.html
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1313
Posted on Wednesday, July 25, 2012 - 10:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

got any pictures of the Peter Max S3?

Here's a teaser (that I didn't take):

Peter Max S3


I know Court's got better pics. Maybe the one above is one of his that he shared with me.

Here are a few that I believe were saved off eBay when the bike was listed there (~2003):

PM 01


PM 04


PM 10


PM 11


Hard to believe, but I didn't take any pics of it in the factory when the bodywork was being installed...
1313
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Speedfreaks101
Posted on Wednesday, July 25, 2012 - 10:37 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Never would have thought that would be a factory bike. How was the theme chosen for the Peter Max bike chosen? And who painted it?
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Kenm123t
Posted on Thursday, July 26, 2012 - 11:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That S3 wasnt painted it was Vandalized !
We had a Peter Max painted Piper Twin at PBIA thankfully it was repainted after about 15 years.
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46champ
Posted on Thursday, July 26, 2012 - 11:32 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Ken I thought all things in Palm Beech would look that way.
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Bartimus
Posted on Friday, July 27, 2012 - 02:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

makes me think of "Magical Mystery Tour".
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Buellish
Posted on Friday, July 27, 2012 - 10:32 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

All roll out for the Magical Mystery Tour,step right this way!
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Bbbob
Posted on Friday, July 27, 2012 - 04:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

City...you lost me, are you saying that Erik designed the engine in the BMW G450X?
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Friday, July 27, 2012 - 09:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

no no the EB version was pure Rotax, new from the ground up - check over in the Rooster threads, I think there was a photo of a prototype... or one rumored to be the proto

the BMW timing was weird
The bike and plant started as Cagiva - which was owned by MV Augusta but it was offsold to Husky prior to Harley buying the MV branch, and then weeks later it went from Husky to BMW ; that motor is now what powers there 450 x dirty ride.

but for about two weeks the overlap was enough to keep me sleep less - we almost had a light dirt bike in the corral.
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Pkforbes87
Posted on Saturday, July 28, 2012 - 01:12 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

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1313
Posted on Saturday, July 28, 2012 - 12:12 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Never would have thought that would be a factory bike.

A Harley Springer Softail - called MXN8R - was also done at the same time:

MXN8R

The story at the time was they were the only 2 bikes he'd ever 'done'.

And who painted it?
Not sure if it's *proof*, but an artist always signs his work doesn't he?

P15


P21


Sometimes even twice...
1313
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Zenbiker
Posted on Saturday, July 28, 2012 - 01:06 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

That is one tank I would hate to see bubble!!
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Speedfreaks101
Posted on Sunday, July 29, 2012 - 04:21 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I misunderstood. I thought it was a tribute and did not realize that it was an original.

Pretty neat.
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Kenm123t
Posted on Sunday, July 29, 2012 - 05:55 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

46 your too far north its more south beach
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Fast1075
Posted on Monday, July 30, 2012 - 04:59 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

This motor was in the Griffin (with mods to the charging system to make it lighter/narrower. (and possibly mods for more power).I want a super mono type bike with one in it.



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Court
Posted on Monday, July 30, 2012 - 08:10 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>>>This motor was in the Griffin

It was?
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Ourdee
Posted on Monday, July 30, 2012 - 11:14 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Is the Griffin in Wi. or NY. now?

(Message edited by ourdee on July 30, 2012)
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Rohorn
Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2012 - 01:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

So where's the picture(s) of the Sugar engine & bike?
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Cityxslicker
Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2012 - 10:34 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

I know that there are some great pictures and stories of the Griffin being held behind the curtain; I hope they make the second book in the Buell Legacy.... Even better if they make the Sales Brochure and the showroom floor !

I want to Believe !
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Fast1075
Posted on Tuesday, July 31, 2012 - 11:06 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

My guess is as close as anyone. I was told by someone (remind me to tell you about it some day) that the rotax 450 motor was used with different charging/ignition and narrower cover.

I was also told that it might even be possible to get those components if you knew the right person to call ; ).

If I am off the mark on this one, please feel free to correct my error.
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Airbozo
Posted on Thursday, April 25, 2013 - 12:35 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hate to revive an old thread, but the I have been searching for pictures of the Peter Max S3 for years. I saw the bike in the Santa Cruz HD/Buell dealership every time I went in there. It was in that store for a long time (they had a mini museum there) and loved it.

Does anyone know where it is today?
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Whisperstealth
Posted on Sunday, April 28, 2013 - 08:49 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Flat black primer would be a huge improvement.
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