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Court
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 01, 2012 - 07:17 am: | 
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You can't send us to a Beautiful women site without pics . . try this one instead . . . |
Hybridmomentspass
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 01, 2012 - 08:38 am: |
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Yeah City, sure... |
Cityxslicker
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 01, 2012 - 09:33 am: |
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with respect; this is neither an advertisement nor a product pitch. It is proof of concept.
the marriage / travel site is currently
www.europeandreamconnections.com and is in the process of new launch roll out as www.dreamconnections.com coming September
the cultural education program that I am running will be hosted on the membership site. It will be based off the curriculum and training that is the foundation for
Griboyedov Dacha: Which is out to social grant funding at Ketel One; and has been submitted to grant funding under Title VII State Department Cultural and Intelligence Programs
Griboyedov Dacha:
To Construct, Promote and Sustain a Gentleman's Academy: a cultural house that functions as a touchstone to the traditions of Russia, E. Europe, Ukraine – the cradle of Vodka's Origin. Named for Aleksander Griboyedov; the Russian Ambassador to Persia during the 19th Century; and guided by his legacy of literature, play-writing, governance, and commerce – in tribute. By building and dedicating a program of etiquette, diplomacy, language, art, theater, music, literature, history, cuisine, poetry, folklore and cultural development; Griboyedov Dacha will provide a unique look into the Russian Kaleidoscope. Through hosting as an emissary locale for Gentleman's Initiatives: providing a life orientation to classical Valor, Integrity, Enlightenment. Our primary endeavor is to promote a launch pad for translation, understanding and literacy across cultures – to unify a common core language to conquer the Dragons we face today in Healthcare, Economy, Governance and matters of the Heart.
https://www.facebook.com/KetelOne
Please find it and like it on Facebook if you agree.
We now return you to the New Black of 2013 and the coming Harley Davidson pilgrimage to Sturgis. |
Ridegreen2oo
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 01, 2012 - 11:57 am: |
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I think they are pretty sharp looking
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Smoke4ndmears
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 01, 2012 - 01:15 pm: |
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I was casually informed by a mechanic at south seas BMW(on Oahu) that one of the primary reasons HPD switched from Harley to BMW was that the overall maintenance cost of the BMW was cheaper.
(Message edited by smoke4ndmears on August 01, 2012) |
Swampy
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 01, 2012 - 01:30 pm: |
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Ok, everyone off this Thread!
It was supposed to be about how H-D(spit) shot themselves in the foot, all the while freeing Erik to do what he does best.
And I don't care if the BMW is the better bike, H-D(spit) absolutly screwed themselves out of their own future by not allowing Erik free rein to develop the best motorcycles on the planet!
Don't fear the future, get on the damn bus already! |
Cityxslicker
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 01, 2012 - 03:49 pm: |
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HD is content with the XR1200X as their 'sport' flavored bike.
heavier, less power, older iconography - it is what 'sells' to the HD crowd
though from my understanding the XR1200X numbers are nowhere what they had hoped for nor forecast....
but I do like the bike, in orange, dressed with the new mini bags from the Dyna Crosswhatever thehell FXDAYADDA - it could be a nice sedate sport touring bike
The VROD is more of a power cruiser as they have killed the performance mid set up of the StreetRod years ago.
When Buell was nixed and closed - it killed ALL the fun out of the H-D shop for me. The Thrill is gone.
Looking for great things from EBR and HERO
that could relight the fire. |
1313
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 01, 2012 - 10:04 pm: |
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Otherwise - hmm is that a new 'black' for this year for Harley ?
Well, I had to visit a somewhat local dark custom emporium about 2 weeks ago. As a side note, their showroom used to be packed with H-D's and Buell's. On this visit, a sole Buell (a Blast!) and VERY FEW H-D's with LOTS of open space. Back to the point, I was intrigued by a product I saw in the parts area. A tire sidewall protectant with the Trademarked name of Harley Black... My crappy cell phone pic:
Trademarked...W T F ?
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Swampy
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 01, 2012 - 10:41 pm: |
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HD is content with the XR1200X as their 'sport' flavored bike.
heavier, less power, older iconography - it is what 'sells' to the HD crowd
though from my understanding the XR1200X numbers are nowhere what they had hoped for nor forecast....
So the lesson H-D(spit) takes away from the dismal sales of the XR1200X is the the H-D(spit) core customer does not desire sport or performance motorcycles and the Motor company shall not persue those customers.....LOL! |
Bienhoabob
| | Posted on Thursday, August 02, 2012 - 09:00 am: |
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2012 is the last year the XR's will be sold in the USA. Guess I have another collectors bike. |
86129squids
| | Posted on Thursday, August 02, 2012 - 12:54 pm: |
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Wow Bob- really?! That seems like a pretty stupid move by the MoCo, but it's not like we've not seen THOSE before...
I bet they'll wait a couple of years and bring them back like they do to ALL the models... I guess this is what they call "new" bikes.
I will say the Switchback is the smartest thing they've done in a minute- being a Dyna frame and lighter overall, it should handle nicely plus cover the miles well. |
Paint_shaker
| | Posted on Thursday, August 02, 2012 - 03:31 pm: |
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Trojan wrote;
"That would make the comparison even easier to make. The H-D hasn't really changed other than replacing the carb with EFi. It still suffers from teh same problems that it did 20 years ago in terms of speed (lack of), handling (lack of) weight (too much) and general useability and suitability as a police bike."
No sense in arguing with an "expert"... I'm done posting about this. |
Bienhoabob
| | Posted on Thursday, August 02, 2012 - 10:43 pm: |
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J. Brad
That's what the salesman said when I bought this '09.
My guess is that the XR will not come back. It will be like the AMF Sportster Cafe racer. |
Jaimec
| | Posted on Friday, August 03, 2012 - 07:11 am: |
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Wonder how long the AMA will continue to run the XR1200 "Tractor Races" then. I have NO idea why they chose THAT to be the support class at the Red Bull Indianapolis MotoGP... to contrast the most modern, high tech motorcycles on the planet with one of the most primitive??
XRs are better on dirt flat tracks. Leave the road racing to the "Big Boys." Come on EBR!! |
Cityxslicker
| | Posted on Friday, August 03, 2012 - 09:25 am: |
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they will build another one.... in thirty or so years
With the bags from the cross fire - I really do like it for a sport touring alternative - but then again I like sportsters
Had three of them, I will probably have another one - just waiting for the right one to show up that I can't resist like kryptonite.
.... the 72 in a heavy metal flake green with gold accent could be a contender too |
Skntpig
| | Posted on Friday, August 03, 2012 - 12:09 pm: |
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Sidewall protectant? Does HD really suggest you put a slick, shiny protectant on the TIRE? Amazing |
Crackhead
| | Posted on Friday, August 03, 2012 - 12:16 pm: |
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Do you really think HD is suggesting that you actually ride your new motorcycle and not create a garage display to show it off when the other dentist, lawyers and docs come over. Remember HD is selling the image not the motorcycle. |
Hybridmomentspass
| | Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2012 - 02:59 pm: |
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1313 - youre complaining about "harley black" but HD isnt the only one who does that
http://kawpower.com/legal-notices/kawasaki-tradema rks
green |
Hootowl
| | Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2012 - 05:27 pm: |
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Sure, but Kawasaki green is a specific shade of green that most bike type people would immediately recognize. Black is black. And if it isn't, we'll, it isn't black. Unless its a slightly darker black 
(Message edited by hootowl on August 06, 2012) |
Hybridmomentspass
| | Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2012 - 07:39 pm: |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LOqAamL9xls
And actually Hoot - go to a Kaw dealership and look at their green bikes, there is a difference between the green they put on the street bikes vs the green on the dirtbikes.
But youre missing the point, he's complaining that they trademarked "harley black" but Kaw went and trademarked "Green"
Whats the difference really? They are both doing the same thing.
but no, many are very biased here and will bash HD while creating excuses for others. |
Hybridmomentspass
| | Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2012 - 07:44 pm: |
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I want to add, I do agree that bike people will recognize a Kaw from a distance if its Green....but who else has a stock green bike? |
Boltrider
| | Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2012 - 09:51 pm: |
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Court's new book on HD - Fifty Shades of Black ? |
Boltrider
| | Posted on Sunday, August 05, 2012 - 10:00 pm: |
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I always liked the V-Rod. For that matter, why didn't HD try to make a police model out of the V-Rod with mid controls? That would have made more sense to me, but I'm just an amateur. |
Hybridmomentspass
| | Posted on Monday, August 06, 2012 - 12:24 am: |
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Bolt - I agree. I wish they did more with that platform (tourer etc).
While I dont see myself ever having one (except for a Destroyer, I lust for that), I think they are neat bikes with plenty of potential.
Shame the traditional HD guys couldnt accept it and most others hate HD so bad they cant overlook the logo on the tank |
Hootowl
| | Posted on Monday, August 06, 2012 - 09:41 am: |
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I don't hate HD. They do some silly things from time to time though. |
Aesquire
| | Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2012 - 11:45 pm: |
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Had a salesman at the local shop tell me I was the only customer he had that really liked the Streetrod. I guess I'm one of the last of the midset control guys left......
I really like the XR1200x. Unfortunately for H-D(spit) I have a Cyclone, which in every category, eats one for breakfast.
I know this is sacrilege, but I'd like a Xr1200 with a King/Queen seat, to optimize it for giving rides, and tossing a saddlebag on for journeys.
As to the original topic, For a police bike it's best to have a low seat to allow for shorter officers. "Electra-Glide in Blue" comes to mind. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0070022/
I know that compromises handling to a great extent, and a good dept should be open to BMW's or Uly's for competent officers. In the best of all worlds.
Now if only EBR made the "new Cyclone" for me, I mean, Us. |
Jaimec
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Aesquire: The Cyclone's ergos were just about PERFECT. I'd love to have another bike with those ergonomics combined with the 1190RS' power/handling/braking.
The XB12Ss Lightning Long was CLOSE, but my legs got cramped up after too long a stint in the saddle. The 1125R was worse. Both were MILES ahead in reliability and build quality though. I rode my M2 to Daytona and back one year. I wouldn't've DREAMED of riding any of the other two bikes like that... my body aches just thinking about it. |
Pwnzor
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2012 - 08:05 am: |
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When I rode the XR at IMS in Long Beach, I was really hoping for a lot more than what I experienced...
While HD was different from the other manufacturers present in that they allowed for unlimited solo test rides, I returned it after only a few miles.
I found it to be sluggish, overweight, and suspension was lacking in every way. I was honestly very disappointed. It's a cool-looking bike, but that's about where it ends for me. |
Hootowl
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2012 - 09:22 am: |
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WRT HD patenting the term "Harley Black", what do you expect? When you hire hoards of lawyers to protect your IP, you get little TMs on everything. All businesses patent trade names. When you get ripped off as much as HD does, it's not surprising that there's a proclivity to patent everything, no matter how insignificant. |
Reepicheep
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2012 - 10:08 am: |
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Try the Uly Jamie, very close to the M2, but a bit roomier. And without the bags on it, a Uly isn't really much bigger than an M2 (shorter but taller). |
Jaimec
| | Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2012 - 12:24 pm: |
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I rode my friend's Uly... but I think I'd've been more of an XB12XT person... street suspension, tires, bags. The bars were more upright than the Cyclone, but the pegs were about right. The locking hard bags would've been a bonus, too. Oh well. |
Kenm123t
| | Posted on Thursday, August 09, 2012 - 12:49 am: |
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See why I built my M123t It does have S3T bars and bags but the seat and tail are M2 |
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