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Fb1
Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2012 - 10:39 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


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"Freedom had been hunted round the globe; reason was considered as rebellion; and the slavery of fear had made men afraid to think. But such is the irresistible nature of truth, that all it asks, and all it wants, is the liberty of appearing."

– Thomas Paine, Rights of Man, 1791


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Hootowl
Posted on Thursday, April 12, 2012 - 05:48 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Interesting. We may be beyond fixing.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/04/12/what-if- government-rejects-constitution/
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Fb1
Posted on Friday, April 13, 2012 - 07:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Hootowl, that's a pretty sobering read; thanks for posting.

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James Wilson, 1790:

"Without liberty, law loses its nature and its name, and becomes oppression. Without law, liberty also loses its nature and its name, and becomes licentiousness."


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Fb1
Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2012 - 07:41 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


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Alexander Hamilton, 1794:

"If it be asked, What is the most sacred duty and the greatest source of our security in a Republic? The answer would be, An inviolable respect for the Constitution and Laws - the first growing out of the last. . . . A sacred respect for the constitutional law is the vital principle, the sustaining energy of a free government."

Reference: Selected Writings and Speeches of Alexander Hamilton


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Ferris_von_bueller
Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2012 - 08:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

We are beyond fixing. We don't have the luxury of time. It would take a generation or two, at best, and in the interim years the infidels will have succeeded in fundamentally changing this country.

I saw Chavez in the news this morning and I thought to myself this man has been elected not just once but several times. The majority of the citizens of Venezuela desire to have him as their leader. In other words, people have chosen tyranny over freedom. I think we sometimes lose sight of the fact that not everyone thinks like we do. Much like a drug addict that chooses addiction and living in filth over a life filled with love and positivity there are vast numbers of people in this world that don't value freedom and personal responsibility. For them a life of servitude is comfortable and preferable over a life of self-reliance because with personal freedom comes responsibility and HARD work and many people are just plain lazy.

I think what's most scary to me is the possible reelection of Obama and what that would signal to us freedom loving folk. The devil himself should be leading in the polls over Obama yet the President isn't as weak as I would have expected.
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Johnnymceldoo
Posted on Saturday, April 14, 2012 - 09:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

With ABC, NBC, CNN, MSNBC, Hollywood and music all things are possible. Oh, and education. In terms of propaganda its like north Korea lite.
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Fb1
Posted on Monday, April 16, 2012 - 08:35 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

As much as I dislike Mr. Obama's policies and political philosophy, I recognize, with sadness and dismay, that his mindset reflects that of many of this nation's citizens. I fervently hope there remain enough Patriots in this country to defeat him in the polls come November.

If we do, in part it will send a figurative warning shot across the bow of everyone else in politics who would endeavor to further veer our ship away from its constitutionally correct course.

Thanks for posting, fellas.

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George Mason, 1788:

"When the resolution of enslaving America was formed in Great Britain, the British Parliament was advised by an artful man, who was governor of Pennsylvania, to disarm the people; that it was the best and most effectual way to enslave them; but that they should not do it openly, but weaken them, and let them sink gradually, by totally disusing and neglecting the militia."

Reference: The Debates of the Several States..., Elliot, vol. 3 (380)


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Fb1
Posted on Tuesday, April 17, 2012 - 07:53 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


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James Madison:

"It has been said that all Government is an evil. It would be more proper to say that the necessity of any Government is a misfortune. This necessity however exists; and the problem to be solved is, not what form of Government is perfect, but which of the forms is least imperfect."

Reference: Advice to My Country, Mattern ed. (54); original Madison Papers in the Library of Congress




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James Madison:

"Democracies have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security, or the rights of property; and have, in general, been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths."

Reference: Madison, Federalist No. 10 (81)


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Fb1
Posted on Wednesday, April 18, 2012 - 08:57 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


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"Would it not be better to simplify the system of taxation rather than to spread it over such a variety of subjects and pass through so many new hands."

-- Thomas Jefferson, letter to James Madison, 1784


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Fb1
Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2012 - 09:54 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


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"Don't fire unless fired upon. But if they want a war let it begin here."

-- Captain John Parker, commander of the militiamen at Lexington, Massachusetts, on sighting British Troops



Today in 1775, the first shots of the American Revolution were fired at Lexington, Massachusetts, when about 40 militiamen formed ranks against 700 British Red Coats on their way to Concord.

The Battles of Lexington and Concord were the first military engagements of the American Revolutionary War. They were fought on April 19, 1775, in Middlesex County, Province of Massachusetts Bay, within the towns of Lexington, Concord, Lincoln, Menotomy (present-day Arlington), and Cambridge, near Boston. The battles marked the outbreak of open armed conflict between the Kingdom of Great Britain and its thirteen colonies in the mainland of British North America.

About 700 British Army regulars, under Lieutenant Colonel Francis Smith, were given secret orders to capture and destroy military supplies that were reportedly stored by the Massachusetts militia at Concord. Through effective intelligence gathering, Patriot colonials had received word weeks before the expedition that their supplies might be at risk and had moved most of them to other locations. They also received details about British plans on the night before the battle and were able to rapidly notify the area militias of the enemy movement.

The first shots were fired just as the sun was rising at Lexington. The militia were outnumbered and fell back, and the regulars proceeded on to Concord, where they searched for the supplies. At the North Bridge in Concord, approximately 500 militiamen fought and defeated three companies of the King's troops. The outnumbered regulars fell back from the minutemen after a pitched battle in open territory.

More militiamen arrived soon thereafter and inflicted heavy damage on the regulars as they marched back towards Boston. Upon returning to Lexington, Smith's expedition was rescued by reinforcements under Brigadier General Hugh Percy. The combined force, now of about 1,700 men, marched back to Boston under heavy fire in a tactical withdrawal and eventually reached the safety of Charlestown. The accumulated militias blockaded the narrow land accesses to Charlestown and Boston, starting the Siege of Boston.

Ralph Waldo Emerson, in his "Concord Hymn," described the first shot fired by the Patriots at the North Bridge as the "shot heard 'round the world."


The Concord Hymn, by Ralph Waldo Emerson

By the rude bridge that arched the flood,
Their flag to April’s breeze unfurled,
Here once the embattled farmers stood,
And fired the shot heard 'round the world.

The foe long since in silence slept;
Alike the conqueror silent sleeps;
And Time the ruined bridge has swept
Down the dark stream which seaward creeps.

On this green bank, by this soft stream,
We set to-day a votive stone;
That memory may their deed redeem,
When, like our sires, our sons are gone.

Spirit, that made those spirits dare,
To die, and leave their children free,
Bid Time and Nature gently spare
The shaft we raise to them and thee.



Source:
The Battles of Lexington and Concord
The Concord Hymn




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Chauly
Posted on Thursday, April 19, 2012 - 11:46 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

"What a glorious morning for America!"---
Samuel Adams April 19th,1775
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Fb1
Posted on Friday, April 20, 2012 - 08:56 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Thanks Chauly.

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James Madison, 1787:

"They accomplished a revolution which has no parallel in the annals of human society. They reared the fabrics of governments which have no model on the face of the globe. They formed the design of a great Confederacy, which it is incumbent on their successors to improve and perpetuate."

Reference: Madison, Federalist No. 14.


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Chauly
Posted on Friday, April 20, 2012 - 01:30 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

You're welcome; I marched in quite a few Patriot's Day Parades over the years, growing up in Lexington.
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Fb1
Posted on Friday, April 20, 2012 - 02:17 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Chauly, here's a great read from Mark Alexander yesterday:

Patriots' Day: Sons of Liberty Then and Now

Do you ever get back up there??
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Chauly
Posted on Friday, April 20, 2012 - 02:51 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Rarely. I've been in Virginia so long now, I consider myself more "Virginian" than otherwise. The average Joe here is more like the patriotic people I knew as a child, whereas the people I left behind are barely recognizable...
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Fb1
Posted on Friday, April 20, 2012 - 03:41 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Gotcha. Virginia feels like home to me, too; not many "progressives" up here in the mountains. Most folks I know up here still cling pretty tightly to their guns and religion.

Need to motor up your way one of these weekends. Can a person still get a good hot dog in BV? : )
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Chauly
Posted on Friday, April 20, 2012 - 03:53 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

<sigh>
Not anymore. Franks for the Memories is closed and is for sale.
But, I still smoke some mean barbecue!

Maybe I'll put together a Buell thingy this year...
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Fb1
Posted on Friday, April 20, 2012 - 04:13 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sorry to hear about Franks. : (

You're a very pleasant 150 or so miles up the Parkway from me 'n D; that'd make an excellent weekend adventure. Count us in.
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Aesquire
Posted on Saturday, April 21, 2012 - 07:36 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

http://www.jerrypournelle.com/chaosmanor/?p=6950

Jerry always says it better than I can.

http://www.mnn.com/earth-matters/wilderness-resour ces/blogs/sir-terry-pratchett-forges-a-sword-with- a-meteorite

"Sir Terry Pratchett forged his own sword base and had it created by an artist – and now hides it from the authorities who apparently don’t allow British landholders to have a sword in the house? Not only will there not always be an England, apparently there’s no longer an England. But they are further down the road to diversity than we are." - Jerry Pournelle

England is gone. Pity, since our culture is based on a deliberately free citizen variant of British subjects.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100014240527023042 99304577349962803326778.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

<clip>Multiculturalism is damaging because it denies that, when it comes to culture, there is a better and a worse, a higher and a lower—only difference. The word culture is used here in its anthropological sense, that is to mean the totality of behavior that is not directly biological.

Hence any conduct—lying scantily clad in a pool of vomit, for example—is part of a culture, and since all cultures, ex hypothesi, are of equal worth, no one has the moral right to criticize, much less forbid, any kind of behavior. And if I have to accept your culture, you have to accept mine. If you don’t like it—tough. Unfortunately, the lowest level of culture is the easiest to reach and, again ex hypothesi, there is no reason to aim higher.

Incivility in Britain thus has a militant or ideological edge to it. The uncivil British are not uncivilized by default—they actively hate and repudiate civilization.<clip>


Our founders understood that tyrants never seem to be such as they begin to gather power. "it's for your own good" and "necessary for the safety of the nation" are both paths to the dark side.
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Rainman
Posted on Sunday, April 22, 2012 - 09:00 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Sometimes I think that all you can do is stay under the radar and take care of yourself and those who would take care of you. Neither con or lib is on the side of the people. They both want to impose their view of what's right and wrong on the rest of us.

I'm neither pro gun nor pro choice. I'm pro "let the people decide their lives."
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Fb1
Posted on Wednesday, April 25, 2012 - 01:04 pm:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


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"If the federal government should overpass the just bounds of its authority and make a tyrannical use of its powers, the people, whose creature it is, must appeal to the standard they have formed, and take such measures to redress the injury done to the Constitution as the exigency may suggest and prudence justify."

-- Alexander Hamilton


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Fb1
Posted on Thursday, April 26, 2012 - 09:07 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


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"As a man is said to have a right to his property, he may be equally said to have a property in his rights. Where an excess of power prevails, property of no sort is duly respected. No man is safe in his opinions, his person, his faculties, or his possessions."

– James Madison, 1792


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Blake
Posted on Friday, April 27, 2012 - 05:02 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

>>> Neither con or lib is on the side of the people. They both want to impose their view of what's right and wrong on the rest of us.

Those who support the principles and values of individual freedom, responsibility, and limited govt are trying to impose their views of what's right and wrong on the rest of us.

Please explain how that is no different than those who support statism, cradle to grave nanny-state and vastly expanded govt.

I support those who would impose liberty and who would defend our unalienable rights. I support honesty.

I oppose those who think they know best how my hard-earned income ought to be spent, and have decided that they ought to choose who better deserves it than me. I oppose liars and corrupt double talkers.

Don't you agree?
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Fb1
Posted on Friday, April 27, 2012 - 09:17 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


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"The invasion of private rights is chiefly to be apprehended, not from acts of Government contrary to the sense of its constituents, but from acts in which the Government is the mere instrument of the major number of the Constituents."

– James Madison, letter to Thomas Jefferson, 1788


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Aesquire
Posted on Friday, April 27, 2012 - 09:43 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

There is a REASON that the founders distrusted Democracy.

The Greeks, who pioneered that form of government, ( or at least were good enough at it that we have records... previous attempts ended in the destruction of the culture, and usually resumption of monarchy ) discovered that, contrary to popular current belief, that Democracies do have war with one another.

The Peloponnesian Wars ( Athens & Sparta ) were in large part Democracies ( not including Sparta ) fighting one another due to the efforts of a few charismatic leaders convincing the Mob to vote to go to war.

The Terrors of France had the initial support of the majority of people, and when the Mob calls for blood, the leaders had better give it to them. Combine that with a desire to KEEP control, the trend was/is to throw those that oppose you, AND those who support you, but are for the moment, not in the Mobs favor, under the Bus. Or under the Guillotine, up against the wall, to the gallows, into Coventry, out the airlock, or dropped off the sleigh to feed the wolves. ( depending on time and culture )

By putting a filter between the desires of the majority at the instant, a Republic reduces, but does not eliminate, the danger that mob rule has to freedom.
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Fb1
Posted on Monday, April 30, 2012 - 09:24 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


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"All, too, will bear in mind this sacred principle, that though the will of the majority is in all cases to prevail, that will to be rightful must be reasonable; that the minority possess their equal rights, which equal law must protect, and to violate would be oppression."

– Thomas Jefferson, First Inaugural Address, 1801


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Fb1
Posted on Tuesday, May 01, 2012 - 10:11 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


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"The sacred rights of mankind are not to be rummaged for, among old parchments, or musty records. They are written, as with a sun beam, in the whole volume of human nature, by the hand of the divinity itself; and can never be erased or obscured by mortal power."

– Alexander Hamilton, 1775


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Blake
Posted on Wednesday, May 02, 2012 - 04:48 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

The true hope for humanity. Anti-Marx. Funny how Karl needed an entire book to try to refute such a simple truth and dupe fools into believing his lie.
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Fb1
Posted on Wednesday, May 02, 2012 - 07:50 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)

Blake, I *think* our country is finally awake again. I hope the Marxists in our government are paying attention...


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"It is sufficiently obvious, that persons and property are the two great subjects on which Governments are to act; and that the rights of persons, and the rights of property, are the objects, for the protection of which Government was instituted. These rights cannot well be separated."

– James Madison, 1829


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Fb1
Posted on Thursday, May 03, 2012 - 06:49 am:   Edit Post Delete Post View Post/Check IP Print Post    Move Post (Custodian/Admin Only) Ban Poster IP (Custodian/Admin only)


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"All eyes are opened, or opening, to the rights of man. The general spread of the light of science has already laid open to every view the palpable truth, that the mass of mankind has not been born with saddles on their backs, nor a favored few booted and spurred, ready to ride legitimately, by the grace of God."

– Thomas Jefferson, 1826


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